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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of
"lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:08:21 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior
wrote: I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. That should work. Most herbs do not need much soil, little water but plenty sun. Resist the temptation to fertilize, but if you must, feed small amounts of diluted fish emulsion. |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:09:10 GMT, Phisherman wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:08:21 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior wrote: I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. That should work. Most herbs do not need much soil, little water but plenty sun. Resist the temptation to fertilize, but if you must, feed small amounts of diluted fish emulsion. This is not really all the correct. Herbs have deep roots, shallow roots, need fertilizer, don't need fertilizer, need water, don't need water, need sun, don't need sun...all depends on what you plan to grow. If it is Coriscan mint, it will work. If it's dill, it won't. Roots need to have more room than that to stand upright and not be dragged down by its own weight in rain, not in rain, wind, etc. |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
Jangchub wrote in
: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:09:10 GMT, Phisherman wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:08:21 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior wrote: I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. That should work. Most herbs do not need much soil, little water but plenty sun. Resist the temptation to fertilize, but if you must, feed small amounts of diluted fish emulsion. This is not really all the correct. Herbs have deep roots, shallow roots, need fertilizer, don't need fertilizer, need water, don't need water, need sun, don't need sun...all depends on what you plan to grow. If it is Coriscan mint, it will work. If it's dill, it won't. Roots need to have more room than that to stand upright and not be dragged down by its own weight in rain, not in rain, wind, etc. Hmmm. I was going to go for some low growers except for maybe the back row which would face the west so they would block the wind. Maybe I can just go for low growers overall. Any suggestions for plantings? The whole garden is triangle shaped with a checkerboard block pattern. I'll have nine, foot square openings to fill and seven half foot (triangle shaped) openings on the edge. The edge triangles can be used or not -- that doesn't matter so much. I might even bring in some herbs that aren't considered herbs as an educational type experience for the folks who will be seeing it. Things like plantain or self-heal (heal all) or even dandelion. I figure if they get out of hand during this season, they'll be easy enough to clean out and start over next year. It's really the watering part that worries me most. If we get into some sort of massive drought, I *might* be able to haul water from a neighbor's well but it wouldn't be high on my list of things to do. |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
On 3/30/07 6:49 AM, in article ,
"FragileWarrior" wrote: Jangchub wrote in : On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:09:10 GMT, Phisherman wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:08:21 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior wrote: I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. That should work. Most herbs do not need much soil, little water but plenty sun. Resist the temptation to fertilize, but if you must, feed small amounts of diluted fish emulsion. This is not really all the correct. Herbs have deep roots, shallow roots, need fertilizer, don't need fertilizer, need water, don't need water, need sun, don't need sun...all depends on what you plan to grow. If it is Coriscan mint, it will work. If it's dill, it won't. Roots need to have more room than that to stand upright and not be dragged down by its own weight in rain, not in rain, wind, etc. Hmmm. I was going to go for some low growers except for maybe the back row which would face the west so they would block the wind. Maybe I can just go for low growers overall. Any suggestions for plantings? The whole garden is triangle shaped with a checkerboard block pattern. I'll have nine, foot square openings to fill and seven half foot (triangle shaped) openings on the edge. The edge triangles can be used or not -- that doesn't matter so much. Sounds like a great time to check out knot gardens variations I might even bring in some herbs that aren't considered herbs as an educational type experience for the folks who will be seeing it. Things like plantain or self-heal (heal all) or even dandelion. I figure if they get out of hand during this season, they'll be easy enough to clean out and start over next year. Thymes spring to mind. Maybe mints. Comfrey can bust through the hardest soil (for the back of the bed)... It's really the watering part that worries me most. If we get into some sort of massive drought, I *might* be able to haul water from a neighbor's well but it wouldn't be high on my list of things to do. Any way to harvest gray water from the house? Wash the dishes in a tub and use that? C |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
Cheryl Isaak wrote in
: On 3/30/07 6:49 AM, in article , "FragileWarrior" wrote: Jangchub wrote in : On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:09:10 GMT, Phisherman wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:08:21 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior wrote: I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. That should work. Most herbs do not need much soil, little water but plenty sun. Resist the temptation to fertilize, but if you must, feed small amounts of diluted fish emulsion. This is not really all the correct. Herbs have deep roots, shallow roots, need fertilizer, don't need fertilizer, need water, don't need water, need sun, don't need sun...all depends on what you plan to grow. If it is Coriscan mint, it will work. If it's dill, it won't. Roots need to have more room than that to stand upright and not be dragged down by its own weight in rain, not in rain, wind, etc. Hmmm. I was going to go for some low growers except for maybe the back row which would face the west so they would block the wind. Maybe I can just go for low growers overall. Any suggestions for plantings? The whole garden is triangle shaped with a checkerboard block pattern. I'll have nine, foot square openings to fill and seven half foot (triangle shaped) openings on the edge. The edge triangles can be used or not -- that doesn't matter so much. Sounds like a great time to check out knot gardens variations I thought about a knot garden but the places I would have to put it all had this layer of super-packed #6 rock and lime with a trace of grass on it. You couldn't get through it with a pick-axe and I'm not about to try. I looked out this morning and my neighbor has already delivered a pallet of blocks for me! Isn't that nice? He said they are from a mall somewhere. (I hope he means they were LEFTOVERS. Maybe I should check into that...) I might even bring in some herbs that aren't considered herbs as an educational type experience for the folks who will be seeing it. Things like plantain or self-heal (heal all) or even dandelion. I figure if they get out of hand during this season, they'll be easy enough to clean out and start over next year. Thymes spring to mind. Maybe mints. Comfrey can bust through the hardest soil (for the back of the bed)... Are all thymes small or is there a miniature version? I seem to remember something with teeny little leaves from a long-ago garden... If Comfrey can bust through this pavement-imitation, I'll give it a place of honor in next year's garden. It's really the watering part that worries me most. If we get into some sort of massive drought, I *might* be able to haul water from a neighbor's well but it wouldn't be high on my list of things to do. Any way to harvest gray water from the house? Wash the dishes in a tub and use that? C That's not a bad idea but is that safe to use on stuff you might eat? Gray water is SUCH a lousy name. Ugh. I was thinking I could put a barrel under a downspout but the only available one is front and center of the yard. I'm going to have to find a pretty nice looking barrel to pull that off. |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
Any way to harvest gray water from the house? Wash the dishes in a tub and use that? C Easy way to do that is to take the S shaped piece out from under the sink, and put a 5 gallon bucket under it... use sink as normal, just remember to check bucket level often... |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
"FragileWarrior" wrote in message .. . I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. They will dry out too quickly. Not all herbs are drought tolerant. Some get to be large plants and need more root space, more depth than 4". |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
"Sarcum" wrote in :
"FragileWarrior" wrote in message .. . I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. They will dry out too quickly. Not all herbs are drought tolerant. Some get to be large plants and need more root space, more depth than 4". I'm not going to get any that are over a foot high. And there IS ground underneath, it just has the consistancy of pavement. I guess I'll find out who the survivors are. The nice thing about this is I can move it somewhere else next year if this doesn't work. It won't be a permanent installation. |
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Will herbs grow in 4" of soil?
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:19:40 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior
wrote: "Sarcum" wrote in : "FragileWarrior" wrote in message .. . I was thinking of putting a checkerboard herb garden on an area of "lawn"(right off the edge of our driveway) that is mostly hard-packed rock/lime and a bit of grass. The blocks I will be using for the checkerboard are 4" deep so the soil where the herbs will grow will also be 4" deep. Do you think I can get an annual crop of herbs to grow in that? Or is that just too shallow? I won't be watering them since water costs a small fortune here. They will dry out too quickly. Not all herbs are drought tolerant. Some get to be large plants and need more root space, more depth than 4". I'm not going to get any that are over a foot high. And there IS ground underneath, it just has the consistancy of pavement. I guess I'll find out who the survivors are. The nice thing about this is I can move it somewhere else next year if this doesn't work. It won't be a permanent installation. You'll be successful if you pick herbs that like your conditions. Some plants respond quickly, others take time or become invasive. My sage, rosemary, lavender, oregano and thyme have been growing well in full sun without care except for an occasional trimming. (The oregano keeps spreading fast, draws bees.) The odor can be overwhelming. We have had up to a 7-week draught. |
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