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We (my wife, as I said she was nuts) did an experiment with tomatoes and
red SRM mulch this year and I am eating crow. The plants in the mulch row are at least twice as big as the row planted in bare dirt... same plants only two feet away. Anyone else have experience with this stuff? js -- PHOTO OF THE WEEK: http://schmidling.com/pow.htm Astronomy, Beer, Cheese, Fiber,Gems, Sausage,Silver http://schmidling.com |
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your experimental design is flawed. you needed to mulch the other
with cypress or some other colored mulch as a control. bare dirt is not a proper control to the red mulch. Ingrid On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:01:59 -0600, Jack Schmidling wrote: We (my wife, as I said she was nuts) did an experiment with tomatoes and red SRM mulch this year and I am eating crow. The plants in the mulch row are at least twice as big as the row planted in bare dirt... same plants only two feet away. Anyone else have experience with this stuff? js |
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On Jun 12, 10:56?am, wrote:
your experimental design is flawed. you needed to mulch the other with cypress or some other colored mulch as a control. bare dirt is not a proper control to the red mulch. Ingrid Jack Schmidling wrote: We (my wife, as I said she was nuts) did an experiment with tomatoes and red SRM mulch this year and I am eating crow. The plants in the mulch row are at least twice as big as the row planted in bare dirt... same plants only two feet away. Bare dirt is the *only* proper scientific control against the red SRM mulch... the poster says right there, "bare dirt". Really doesn't need a control, not when planted in the same soil, in very close proximity, and not when the result is so obviously such a great difference in plant size, size being the only result being tested. Using a single different mulch is not a scientific control, using no mulch is the only practical scientific control because all else being equal (which it is) that is precisely the only element for which the test is being conducted... arbitrarilly tossing in some other kind of mulch will only skew the test, because then you'd need to test the red SRM against every other known mulch... and since you're not the mulch goddess you can't choose which other mulch from the many thousands to employ... why not choose peanut shells, or buckwheat husks... you can't, the test is red against dirt. The test as described is to compare the red SRM against no mulch and is exactly what occured... *perfect science*. If after the test the "plants are at least twice as big" (not just perhaps borderline difference to argue about), then res ipsa loquitor, the scientific value of the test by its results speaks for itself. By your logic you're assuming that these gardeners regularly use some other mulch, but there is no such evidence, but there is evidence to the contrary... asssuming ones fantasy is not at all scientific. And if they do regualry use a different mulch then that one and that one only would be the only acceptible control in their case. In your world you can do as you please... perhaps in your world you shred your soiled red panties for mulch, perhaps you should run a control with your laundered red panties... but this is about their world, and in their world the only possible scientific control is *their* dirt. |
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In article .com,
Sheldon wrote: On Jun 12, 10:56?am, wrote: your experimental design is flawed. you needed to mulch the other with cypress or some other colored mulch as a control. bare dirt is not a proper control to the red mulch. Ingrid Jack Schmidling wrote: We (my wife, as I said she was nuts) did an experiment with tomatoes and red SRM mulch this year and I am eating crow. The plants in the mulch row are at least twice as big as the row planted in bare dirt... same plants only two feet away. Bare dirt is the *only* proper scientific control against the red SRM mulch... the poster says right there, "bare dirt". Really doesn't need a control, not when planted in the same soil, in very close proximity, and not when the result is so obviously such a great difference in plant size, size being the only result being tested. Using a single different mulch is not a scientific control, using no mulch is the only practical scientific control because all else being equal (which it is) that is precisely the only element for which the test is being conducted... arbitrarilly tossing in some other kind of mulch will only skew the test, because then you'd need to test the red SRM against every other known mulch... and since you're not the mulch goddess you can't choose which other mulch from the many thousands to employ... why not choose peanut shells, or buckwheat husks... you can't, the test is red against dirt. The test as described is to compare the red SRM against no mulch and is exactly what occured... *perfect science*. If after the test the "plants are at least twice as big" (not just perhaps borderline difference to argue about), then res ipsa loquitor, the scientific value of the test by its results speaks for itself. By your logic you're assuming that these gardeners regularly use some other mulch, but there is no such evidence, but there is evidence to the contrary... asssuming ones fantasy is not at all scientific. And if they do regualry use a different mulch then that one and that one only would be the only acceptible control in their case. In your world you can do as you please... perhaps in your world you shred your soiled red panties for mulch, perhaps you should run a control with your laundered red panties... but this is about their world, and in their world the only possible scientific control is *their* dirt. Oh lord, another one come down from the mountain with his clay tablets. Another turnip truck must have lost it's load. This ones got a real 'tude. Is it a full moon tonight? - Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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if it is mulch vs bare dirt, correct.
if however it is RED mulch vs ?? the ?? needs to be some OTHER color of mulch. hell, it can even be shredded newspaper. I think it is obvious that mulch will cool the soil and keep the soil moist much longer. no experiment is needed at all. Ingrid On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:49:59 -0700, Sheldon wrote: Bare dirt is the *only* proper scientific control against the red SRM mulch... the poster says right there, "bare dirt". |
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On Jun 13, 10:35?am, wrote:
if it is mulch vs bare dirt, correct. if however it is RED mulch vs ?? the ?? needs to be some OTHER color of mulch. hell, it can even be shredded newspaper. I think it is obvious that mulch will cool the soil and keep the soil moist much longer. no experiment is needed at all. Actually anything that impedes evaporation keeps the soil from cooling... evaporation is what cools soil, the more air circulation the more the soil cools. Most mulches (unless highly reflective and porous) act to keep soil warmer... dark mulches can kill plants by causing roots to literally cook. Personally I would never use that red plastic unlesss they come up with a porous/woven version... air and water must be able to freely penetrate for any mulch to be worthwhile... I don't consider any plastic sheeting a mulch, regardless of color. |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:03:42 -0700, Sheldon wrote: Actually anything that impedes evaporation keeps the soil from cooling... evaporation is what cools soil, the more air circulation the more the soil cools. ........ true Most mulches (unless highly reflective and porous) act to keep soil warmer... dark mulches can kill plants by causing roots to literally cook. ............ up here in zone 5 mulch is used to keep the soil cool. tomatoes are never mulched until the soil temp is high enough that it wont impede growth. and mulches are used to moderate soil temp, including keeping the soil cold under fruit trees in spring so they wont blossom out to soon. Ingrid |
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Soil is not dirt?
-- Many tree problems are associated with the following: Troubles in the Rhizosphere http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/sub1.html and Look up "Tree Planting" http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html Improper Mulching - http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/sub3.html and http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/index.html Look up "Mulch" Improper Pruning http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning/ Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry) http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. wrote in message . com... your experimental design is flawed. you needed to mulch the other with cypress or some other colored mulch as a control. bare dirt is not a proper control to the red mulch. Ingrid On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:01:59 -0600, Jack Schmidling wrote: We (my wife, as I said she was nuts) did an experiment with tomatoes and red SRM mulch this year and I am eating crow. The plants in the mulch row are at least twice as big as the row planted in bare dirt... same plants only two feet away. Anyone else have experience with this stuff? js |
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Jack Schmidling expounded:
We (my wife, as I said she was nuts) did an experiment with tomatoes and red SRM mulch this year and I am eating crow. The plants in the mulch row are at least twice as big as the row planted in bare dirt... same plants only two feet away. Anyone else have experience with this stuff? I've got it out there for the first time, and didn't plant a 'control' plot, so I'll just have to wait and see. My main objective is to cut down on early blight. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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