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"symplastless" wrote in message
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http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html

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Sincerely,John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.



Like everything else, there's exceptions to the latest thought which
addresses generalities, not specifics.

An example. I have 5 acres of central TX property. The native prevailing
trees are in order - Juniper ashe, live oak, red oak, pecan, and a
spattering of chinaberry in my specific area. I cut juniper ashe any time
of the year, may be the whole tree, or, a swath up the trunk of the tree
just above head height. No dressing is ever applied ever to such cuts. All
have no problems healing over such cuts. Live oak, I only prune dead limbs.
No time of year specific No problems here. No dressing applied. I have no
other tree species on my property.

Oops, I do have one lemon tree about a foot tall in a pot. Haven't pruned
it.

My dad used repair type roofing tar on his pecan trees after making cuts of
branches off the trunk. No visible ill effects. One has been cut down due
to height constraints in the area, the remainder are still in place.

Some juniper ashe have to take cuts on branches at the trunk. Some will
branch entirely horizontally. Making it impossible to mow under them. This
is also how such a tree aids containing water beneath such a tree.

All is observational, and could be easily an oversight on my part, But, I
doubt it.
Dave


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.. No dressing is ever applied ever to such cuts. All
have no problems healing over such cuts.


First, trees do not heal wounds. Trees do not heal wounds.
Wound dressing does not stop rot or the spread of disease. So why would you
apply it at all?

Trees compartmentalize and they do not heal.


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John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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"symplastless" wrote in message
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. No dressing is ever applied ever to such cuts. All
have no problems healing over such cuts.


First, trees do not heal wounds. Trees do not heal wounds.
Wound dressing does not stop rot or the spread of disease. So why would
you apply it at all?

Trees compartmentalize and they do not heal.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.



I'm baaaackkk! Is yu scaredid?

Oh dude/dudette. You simply did not really reply to all that I said. Just
one potshot at one sentence. No one mentioned the word "wounds" except you.
Whatever the context, verbage, the trees did very good. Something you don't
seem to want to address. Some politico and meaningless word from you.
Well, guess you can't take the heat (kitchen).

Jang: What the live oaks do producing dead limbs is seeking the sun in
failure. The limbs cease to be productive, the tree stops feeding it.
Makes sense to me as a more selective tree, rather supporting stuff that's
not cutting the mustard. Not purty, but very functional. Makes even more
sense when you consider its fighting the heat, drought conditions, and
Juniper Ashe intrusion as well. Hardly a trash tree... Don't apologize or
make excuses to Symp.

Have a Juniper Ashe remnant trunk about 4' tall on my land. Trunk is almost
2' in diameter. Looks like someone cut it down that way. Dried up etc. I
don't particularly like these trees. But, if still alive, I'd definitely
prune it to 6' high for branching and let it be. I don't see any nearly
this thick at the trunk anywhere around in the county.

For those who don't know, its typical to cut a Juniper Ashe about 2' above
the soil line. Leave it be for a year or 2, then, knock it over. Failure,
wait another year or 2. Common if the immediate rooting is in heavy
limestone. Sorry, that's common in central TX. May be different in other
locations. Am aware their may be exceptions. My location, blueberry
version. Rocky mountain version has red berries. I am not an arborist. I
do observe and am aware of differences of other areas, weather conditions,
temperatures, soils, and other things that contribute to differences.
Something not so common here...
Dave


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Where did you go?


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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
. No dressing is ever applied ever to such cuts. All
have no problems healing over such cuts.


First, trees do not heal wounds. Trees do not heal wounds.
Wound dressing does not stop rot or the spread of disease. So why would
you apply it at all?

Trees compartmentalize and they do not heal.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.



I'm baaaackkk! Is yu scaredid?

Oh dude/dudette. You simply did not really reply to all that I said.
Just one potshot at one sentence. No one mentioned the word "wounds"
except you. Whatever the context, verbage, the trees did very good.
Something you don't seem to want to address. Some politico and
meaningless word from you. Well, guess you can't take the heat (kitchen).

Jang: What the live oaks do producing dead limbs is seeking the sun in
failure. The limbs cease to be productive, the tree stops feeding it.
Makes sense to me as a more selective tree, rather supporting stuff that's
not cutting the mustard. Not purty, but very functional. Makes even more
sense when you consider its fighting the heat, drought conditions, and
Juniper Ashe intrusion as well. Hardly a trash tree... Don't apologize
or make excuses to Symp.

Have a Juniper Ashe remnant trunk about 4' tall on my land. Trunk is
almost 2' in diameter. Looks like someone cut it down that way. Dried up
etc. I don't particularly like these trees. But, if still alive, I'd
definitely prune it to 6' high for branching and let it be. I don't see
any nearly this thick at the trunk anywhere around in the county.

For those who don't know, its typical to cut a Juniper Ashe about 2' above
the soil line. Leave it be for a year or 2, then, knock it over.
Failure, wait another year or 2. Common if the immediate rooting is in
heavy limestone. Sorry, that's common in central TX. May be different in
other locations. Am aware their may be exceptions. My location,
blueberry version. Rocky mountain version has red berries. I am not an
arborist. I do observe and am aware of differences of other areas,
weather conditions, temperatures, soils, and other things that contribute
to differences. Something not so common here...
Dave





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You require dissections after five years of studies.
What have you dissected and how?


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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html

--
Sincerely,John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.



Like everything else, there's exceptions to the latest thought which
addresses generalities, not specifics.

An example. I have 5 acres of central TX property. The native prevailing
trees are in order - Juniper ashe, live oak, red oak, pecan, and a
spattering of chinaberry in my specific area. I cut juniper ashe any time
of the year, may be the whole tree, or, a swath up the trunk of the tree
just above head height. No dressing is ever applied ever to such cuts.
All have no problems healing over such cuts. Live oak, I only prune dead
limbs. No time of year specific No problems here. No dressing applied.
I have no other tree species on my property.

Oops, I do have one lemon tree about a foot tall in a pot. Haven't pruned
it.

My dad used repair type roofing tar on his pecan trees after making cuts
of branches off the trunk. No visible ill effects. One has been cut down
due to height constraints in the area, the remainder are still in place.

Some juniper ashe have to take cuts on branches at the trunk. Some will
branch entirely horizontally. Making it impossible to mow under them.
This is also how such a tree aids containing water beneath such a tree.

All is observational, and could be easily an oversight on my part, But, I
doubt it.
Dave



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