In article , Charlie wrote:

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:24:20 -0400, William Wagner
wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:43:13 GMT, Rick wrote:


(The faith based anti-Monsanto crowd need not chime
in again, as the thread was already hijacked once).

Really now. Seems to me that it takes great faith to ingest poison,
sprinkle it around the planet in liberal doses and expect not to be
harmed.

Kinda like them there folks what handles buzzsnakes, if'ns ya' know
what I mean, Vern.

But hey, what do I know, being the ignorant sod that I am, able to see
in only two-dimensions.

Charlie

You may not know what 3/4 dca is or 2/4 dca is.

You mean this shit?

Humans exposed to 2,4-Dichloroaniline for relatively short periods of
time are subject to slight skin and eye irritation, blue skin, blue
lips or finger nails, dizziness, nausea, shortness of breath,
confusion, convulsions. Unconsciousness, or abdominal pain. However,
humans subjected to prolonged exposure are prone to the formation of
methaemoglobin in their blood supply, which effectively reduces the
oxygen carrying capacity of the bloodstream and could rapidly result in
death. The substance is particularly toxic to aquatic organisms, which
is due to the impediment of the 2,4-Dichloroaniline on the oxygen
carrying capacity of the blood supply, thus effectively suffocating the
aquatic organism.

2,4-Dichloroaniline present in soil biodegrades relatively slowly.
However, 2,4-Dichloroaniline (2,4-DCA) does not sorb onto soil
particles very well and as a result may leach into the groundwater. The
first step of the biodegradation of 2,4-DCA is the dechlorination of
2,4-DCA with a reductive dehalogenase that remove chlorine from the
ortho position to form a monochlorinated aniline that can be readily
degraded. The second step is an oxidative deamination of chloroaniline
to chlorocatechol via a modified ortho-cleavage pathway as reported by
Zeyer et al. (1985). With chlorinated anilines, a meta cleavage pathway
forms dead end products or suicide (highly reactive) products. The dead
end products are a result of the narrow substrate specificity of the
catabolic enzymes of benzoate, phenol or aniline- degrading microbes
that are ineffective at degrading chlorinated analogs.


Good stuff, what.

Kills plant life and is cheap so it is good yea right. My GC work was
to evaluate these poisons and add as much water to the product as it was
by the pound sold.
Stinks like death .

"I'm a laboratory tech and I'm OK
Work all night and sleep all day
Do what I can to collect my pay
I work in the laboratory"

Courtesy Russ Galson


Monty Python ad-lib attempt to bring life to dismal work.

Bill who would walk up to a coffee machine
Drink what I got
Take another an get ready for my shift.

We used to call it blue lip. But it is really labeled a word for
oxygen starved. I can't remember what to technical name is .
Perhaps cyanotic.
Some of us must exist in hell it seems to strive for the heavens.

I Guess.

Bill

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade

This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid

Why not just dig the stuff up and be done with it
It is a clump forming plant and very shallow rooted.
It could be out of there in no time at all.................

Emilie
Nor Cal

Jangchub wrote:

Jim wrote:
Jangchub wrote:

[....]

Well, remember the campaign where Monsanto said Round Up was safe as
table salt? If I recall, that started world war trillion on
rec.gardens! Remember?

"world war trillion" that's a great descriptor.

g

I would have said "squillion" but at heast there actually is a
trillion!

it was and is a great descriptor because it so very amply
creates the image of how infrequently people can maintain
a civil conversation on usenet without allowing pride to
cause their exchange to erupt into the storm of [WWT]...


--
Pro 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the
well advised is wisdom.