Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:40:09 +1300, "George.com"
wrote:

Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob



"we are screwed" plugged into Google gets over 32 million results.
Pretty popular opinion, I'd say.

In article ,
Charles wrote:

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:40:09 +1300, "George.com"
wrote:

Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob



"we are screwed" plugged into Google gets over 32 million results.
Pretty popular opinion, I'd say.

and the sheep say "baaah"
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Get up, stand up, stand up for yor rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

"George.com" wrote in message
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

And what has brought on this sudden observation Rob? By that I mean, has
any specific incident set off this line of thought, or is it just a sudden
realisation?

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"George.com" wrote in message
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If
the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

And what has brought on this sudden observation Rob? By that I mean, has
any specific incident set off this line of thought, or is it just a sudden
realisation?

Part 3 of a 3 part series "State of the Planet" narrated by David
Attenbrough. Part 1 & 2 were sobering enough. Essentially, there is so much
going on around the world that is damaging our environment, remedies to our
problems seem so piecemeal & limited, the changes to our environment that I
have seen inside a mere 20 years, all leaves me pessimistic that if we
continue with business as usual we are essentially fkd. 6 billion people
place a hell of a strain on the planet, 7 or 8 or 9 billion just add woes
upon woes.

The Easter Islanders once enjoyed a diet rich in sea food. At some point sea
food dissappeared from their diet. The reason? They cut down the last tree
that could be used to make canoes. They lost their ability to fish. The
civilisation that had been at its peak tailed off from there. A remnant of
Easter Islanders remained but their peak of civilisation was gone.
Generation by generation people lost a little bit but never realised, each
generation came to believe it had 'always been that way'.

In New Zealand the govt announced for the next 10 years any new electricity
generation will come from renewable sources, a moratorium on new thermal
generation. Even that modest step has been opposed by environmental knuckle
draggers. "Why should NZ do anything about global warming if the likes of
the US, China & Australia don't. They pollute more than us." Indeed, why
should Aus or the US or China do anything when NZ isn't. Bury your head in
the sand, business as usual.

If we all stand around wanking ourselves waiting for the next guy to do
something we may as well consign ourselves to continuing environmental
degredation, increasing ecological problems and social/economic fallout. We
face enough problems already, heaven knows it boggles my mind contemplating
the possible ramifications of what is occuring on the globe at the moment.
Ecological neanderthals who are content to sit around and masturbate
themselves so their profit/view/neighbourhood/way of life etc etc are not
unduly affected, in effect, condem us all to buggery. I am not that
confident we will address all the problems we have given the best of
intentions, ******s who are not prepared to lift a finger now give me no
hope at all that we will come even close to finding solutions.

rob

In article ,
"George.com" wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"George.com" wrote in message
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If
the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

And what has brought on this sudden observation Rob? By that I mean, has
any specific incident set off this line of thought, or is it just a sudden
realisation?

Part 3 of a 3 part series "State of the Planet" narrated by David
Attenbrough. Part 1 & 2 were sobering enough. Essentially, there is so much
going on around the world that is damaging our environment, remedies to our
problems seem so piecemeal & limited, the changes to our environment that I
have seen inside a mere 20 years, all leaves me pessimistic that if we
continue with business as usual we are essentially fkd. 6 billion people
place a hell of a strain on the planet, 7 or 8 or 9 billion just add woes
upon woes.

The Easter Islanders once enjoyed a diet rich in sea food. At some point sea
food dissappeared from their diet. The reason? They cut down the last tree
that could be used to make canoes. They lost their ability to fish. The
civilisation that had been at its peak tailed off from there. A remnant of
Easter Islanders remained but their peak of civilisation was gone.
Generation by generation people lost a little bit but never realised, each
generation came to believe it had 'always been that way'.

In New Zealand the govt announced for the next 10 years any new electricity
generation will come from renewable sources, a moratorium on new thermal
generation. Even that modest step has been opposed by environmental knuckle
draggers. "Why should NZ do anything about global warming if the likes of
the US, China & Australia don't. They pollute more than us." Indeed, why
should Aus or the US or China do anything when NZ isn't. Bury your head in
the sand, business as usual.

If we all stand around wanking ourselves waiting for the next guy to do
something we may as well consign ourselves to continuing environmental
degredation, increasing ecological problems and social/economic fallout. We
face enough problems already, heaven knows it boggles my mind contemplating
the possible ramifications of what is occuring on the globe at the moment.

Hmmm....
Ecological neanderthals who are content to sit around and masturbate
themselves so their profit/view/neighbourhood/way of life etc etc are not
unduly affected, in effect, condem us all to buggery. I am not that
confident we will address all the problems we have given the best of
intentions, ******s who are not prepared to lift a finger now give me no
hope at all that we will come even close to finding solutions.

rob
If those
"Ecological neanderthals who are content to sit around and masturbate"
They are doing their part. They will not have kids.

You worry too much, your logic is failing.
Try and get some sleep and end this thread.

Well, if it makes anyone feel better. I am doing my part:
I am happily single, have no kids (I just hope they remember to take
those pills), Electric bill always $50 / month, propane $80 / month,
gasoline $150, My garbage will fit inside in a small single grocery
bag (plastic sorry) per week . Comcast triple pay $150,
Books $100 / month ..... Ahhhhhhhhh all of those trees ... Noooooo.

It is not because I care about my environment - It is just my lifestyle.

Just do your own thing. Do not worry about such things as overpopulation
or what others do. It will only make you nuts, if not already. Focus on
life and be happy.

That is all you will hear from me on this subject
Enjoy Life ....... Dan

--
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In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article ,
"George.com" wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"George.com" wrote in message
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If
the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

And what has brought on this sudden observation Rob? By that I mean, has
any specific incident set off this line of thought, or is it just a sudden
realisation?

Part 3 of a 3 part series "State of the Planet" narrated by David
Attenbrough. Part 1 & 2 were sobering enough. Essentially, there is so much
going on around the world that is damaging our environment, remedies to our
problems seem so piecemeal & limited, the changes to our environment that I
have seen inside a mere 20 years, all leaves me pessimistic that if we
continue with business as usual we are essentially fkd. 6 billion people
place a hell of a strain on the planet, 7 or 8 or 9 billion just add woes
upon woes.

The Easter Islanders once enjoyed a diet rich in sea food. At some point sea
food dissappeared from their diet. The reason? They cut down the last tree
that could be used to make canoes. They lost their ability to fish. The
civilisation that had been at its peak tailed off from there. A remnant of
Easter Islanders remained but their peak of civilisation was gone.
Generation by generation people lost a little bit but never realised, each
generation came to believe it had 'always been that way'.

In New Zealand the govt announced for the next 10 years any new electricity
generation will come from renewable sources, a moratorium on new thermal
generation. Even that modest step has been opposed by environmental knuckle
draggers. "Why should NZ do anything about global warming if the likes of
the US, China & Australia don't. They pollute more than us." Indeed, why
should Aus or the US or China do anything when NZ isn't. Bury your head in
the sand, business as usual.

If we all stand around wanking ourselves waiting for the next guy to do
something we may as well consign ourselves to continuing environmental
degredation, increasing ecological problems and social/economic fallout. We
face enough problems already, heaven knows it boggles my mind contemplating
the possible ramifications of what is occuring on the globe at the moment.

Hmmm....
Ecological neanderthals who are content to sit around and masturbate
themselves so their profit/view/neighbourhood/way of life etc etc are not
unduly affected, in effect, condem us all to buggery. I am not that
confident we will address all the problems we have given the best of
intentions, ******s who are not prepared to lift a finger now give me no
hope at all that we will come even close to finding solutions.

rob
If those
"Ecological neanderthals who are content to sit around and masturbate"
They are doing their part. They will not have kids.

You worry too much, your logic is failing.
Try and get some sleep and end this thread.

Well, if it makes anyone feel better. I am doing my part:
I am happily single, have no kids (I just hope they remember to take
those pills), Electric bill always $50 / month, propane $80 / month,
gasoline $150, My garbage will fit inside in a small single grocery
bag (plastic sorry) per week . Comcast triple pay $150,
Books $100 / month ..... Ahhhhhhhhh all of those trees ... Noooooo.

It is not because I care about my environment - It is just my lifestyle.

Just do your own thing. Do not worry about such things as overpopulation
or what others do. It will only make you nuts, if not already. Focus on
life and be happy.

That is all you will hear from me on this subject
Enjoy Life ....... Dan

.. . . and no one will miss you when your gone.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for yor rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article ,
"George.com" wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"George.com" wrote in message
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If
the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

And what has brought on this sudden observation Rob? By that I mean,
has
any specific incident set off this line of thought, or is it just a
sudden
realisation?

Part 3 of a 3 part series "State of the Planet" narrated by David
Attenbrough. Part 1 & 2 were sobering enough. Essentially, there is so
much
going on around the world that is damaging our environment, remedies to
our
problems seem so piecemeal & limited, the changes to our environment that
I
have seen inside a mere 20 years, all leaves me pessimistic that if we
continue with business as usual we are essentially fkd. 6 billion people
place a hell of a strain on the planet, 7 or 8 or 9 billion just add woes
upon woes.

The Easter Islanders once enjoyed a diet rich in sea food. At some point
sea
food dissappeared from their diet. The reason? They cut down the last
tree
that could be used to make canoes. They lost their ability to fish. The
civilisation that had been at its peak tailed off from there. A remnant
of
Easter Islanders remained but their peak of civilisation was gone.
Generation by generation people lost a little bit but never realised,
each
generation came to believe it had 'always been that way'.

In New Zealand the govt announced for the next 10 years any new
electricity
generation will come from renewable sources, a moratorium on new thermal
generation. Even that modest step has been opposed by environmental
knuckle
draggers. "Why should NZ do anything about global warming if the likes of
the US, China & Australia don't. They pollute more than us." Indeed, why
should Aus or the US or China do anything when NZ isn't. Bury your head
in
the sand, business as usual.

If we all stand around wanking ourselves waiting for the next guy to do
something we may as well consign ourselves to continuing environmental
degredation, increasing ecological problems and social/economic fallout.
We
face enough problems already, heaven knows it boggles my mind
contemplating
the possible ramifications of what is occuring on the globe at the
moment.

Hmmm....
Ecological neanderthals who are content to sit around and masturbate
themselves so their profit/view/neighbourhood/way of life etc etc are not
unduly affected, in effect, condem us all to buggery. I am not that
confident we will address all the problems we have given the best of
intentions, ******s who are not prepared to lift a finger now give me no
hope at all that we will come even close to finding solutions.

rob
If those
"Ecological neanderthals who are content to sit around and masturbate"
They are doing their part. They will not have kids.

You worry too much, your logic is failing.
Try and get some sleep and end this thread.

Well, if it makes anyone feel better. I am doing my part:
I am happily single, have no kids (I just hope they remember to take
those pills), Electric bill always $50 / month, propane $80 / month,
gasoline $150, My garbage will fit inside in a small single grocery
bag (plastic sorry) per week . Comcast triple pay $150,
Books $100 / month ..... Ahhhhhhhhh all of those trees ... Noooooo.

It is not because I care about my environment - It is just my lifestyle.

Just do your own thing. Do not worry about such things as overpopulation
or what others do. It will only make you nuts, if not already. Focus on
life and be happy.

That is all you will hear from me on this subject
Enjoy Life ....... Dan

. . . and no one will miss you when your gone.

I lied
Enjoy Life ...... Dan

--
Email "dan lehr at comcast dot net". Text only or goes to trash automatically.

Charlie wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:06:32 +1300, "George.com"
wrote:


_ snip-

agree. I also believe we are effed.

Easter Island is a very good analogy. Many of us do what we can on a
personal level; CFLs, recycle, conserve, try to make green purchases,

CFLs with their mercury are part of the problem. Domestic use LED (Light
Emitting Diode) bulb technology is there to make bulbs that:
1) are more energy efficient than CFLs,
2) last longer than CFLs,
3) work with dimmer switches and other devices that CFLs don't.
Some in the "Green" movement are in league with business that are
blocking these bulbs from being produced so that they can make their money
on CFLs.
Always follow the money.

"George.com" wrote in message
...
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob



Yes. And, most of the major problems today are a result of that. The
symptoms get attention and may be treated, but never the actual cause. Jang
has the right idea.
Dave

In article ,
"Dave" wrote:

"George.com" wrote in message
...
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob



Yes. And, most of the major problems today are a result of that. The
symptoms get attention and may be treated, but never the actual cause. Jang
has the right idea.
Dave

Hmmm.....

I would not worry too much about over population. It is sort of like the
predator / prey thing. Too many foxes results in fewer rabbits. Too many
humans / less food / fewer humans.

If that does not work, I am sure the Bio-Agriculture industry can modify
the foods so that sterility increases world wide. To help in the
population reduction. If they are not doing that now.

So take a note from Charles Darwin .. survival of the fittest
OR take a note from the Bible (King Solomon) Eat, Drink and be Merry

For tomorrow it may be all she wrote. It just sounds better than DEAD.

A bumper sticker I saw long ago "Save the planet - kill yourself".

The local cynic .... Dan

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In article
,
"Dan L." wrote:

In article ,
"Dave" wrote:

"George.com" wrote in message
...
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob



Yes. And, most of the major problems today are a result of that. The
symptoms get attention and may be treated, but never the actual cause.
Jang
has the right idea.
Dave

Hmmm.....

I would not worry too much about over population. It is sort of like the
predator / prey thing. Too many foxes results in fewer rabbits. Too many
humans / less food / fewer humans.

If that does not work, I am sure the Bio-Agriculture industry can modify
the foods so that sterility increases world wide. To help in the
population reduction. If they are not doing that now.

So take a note from Charles Darwin .. survival of the fittest
OR take a note from the Bible (King Solomon) Eat, Drink and be Merry

For tomorrow it may be all she wrote. It just sounds better than DEAD.

A bumper sticker I saw long ago "Save the planet - kill yourself".

The local cynic .... Dan

I think of the Italian aristocrats who about 1300 ad said the world
was terrible and decided to be barren. I can't find the cite for that
but they are now extinct.
Some folks worry too much. If heaven brings forth things work with it
if so inclined.
The nature of existence is what this is about. Sweet, Sour, Bitter and


Bill Your Choice.

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Dan L. said:

In article ,
"Dave" wrote:

"George.com" wrote in message
...
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob



Yes. And, most of the major problems today are a result of that. The
symptoms get attention and may be treated, but never the actual cause. Jang
has the right idea.
Dave

Hmmm.....

I would not worry too much about over population. It is sort of like the
predator / prey thing. Too many foxes results in fewer rabbits. Too many
humans / less food / fewer humans.

If that does not work, I am sure the Bio-Agriculture industry can modify
the foods so that sterility increases world wide. To help in the
population reduction. If they are not doing that now.

So take a note from Charles Darwin .. survival of the fittest
OR take a note from the Bible (King Solomon) Eat, Drink and be Merry

Or, take a note from Einstein, who said that when the bees go, humans will
go in six years. That makes a helluva lot of sense, when you think about
it.

[rest snipped]

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"Dan L." wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dave" wrote:

"George.com" wrote in message
...
Not sure whether this is the correct group to state this, however. If
the
human population keeps on as it presently, the planet is screwed.

rob



Yes. And, most of the major problems today are a result of that. The
symptoms get attention and may be treated, but never the actual cause.
Jang
has the right idea.
Dave

Hmmm.....

I would not worry too much about over population. It is sort of like the
predator / prey thing. Too many foxes results in fewer rabbits. Too many
humans / less food / fewer humans.

If that does not work, I am sure the Bio-Agriculture industry can modify
the foods so that sterility increases world wide. To help in the
population reduction. If they are not doing that now.

So take a note from Charles Darwin .. survival of the fittest
OR take a note from the Bible (King Solomon) Eat, Drink and be Merry

For tomorrow it may be all she wrote. It just sounds better than DEAD.

A bumper sticker I saw long ago "Save the planet - kill yourself".

The local cynic .... Dan

--
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automatically.

Except for kids stoned out of their mind, they are on to the problem.
Family planning may turn into general family banning. Despite my cynicism
of past human behavior for now, I have hope for the future. But, I won't
relegate my cynicism or hope to a mangled form of humor. That form of humor
being unable to cope with reality.
Dave