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Care tips for your orchid
Orchid is a wonderful and mysterious plant for me. Its flower is more
beautiful and charming than other flower. However, you must take care of it very carefully such as temperature, watering, fertilizer, humidity, light. Otherwise your orchid will not grow up or die finally. So I summarize some advises to take of the orchid as for your guide. WATERING YOUR ORCHID Always water early in the day so that your orchids dry out by nighttime. The proper frequency of watering will depend on the climatic conditions where you live. In general, water once a week during the winter and twice a week when the weather turns warm and dry. The size of your orchid container also helps determine how often you need to water, regardless of climate conditions. Typically, a 6- inch pot needs water every 7 days and a 4-inch pot needs water every 5 to 6 days. The type of potting medium being used can also affect your plant's water requirements. Bark has a tendency to dry out more rapidly than sphagnum moss, for instance. It is important to remember, however, that even when the surface of your pot is dry, the root area may remain moist. Poke your finger or a regular wooden pencil an inch into the pot; if it feels moist to the touch or if the pencil looks moist, do not add additional water. The potting medium should always be damp, but not soggy. The quality of water used, whether for spraying or watering, is of great importance. Since tap water has often been chemically treated, generally with chlorine, it should be used with caution. The best water for orchids is undoubtedly rainwater. Rainwater, as it passes through the air, dissolves and absorbs many substances such as dust, pollen and other organic matter. THINGS TO CONSIDER: The temperature of the water is also important. If the water temperature and the surrounding air temperature are equal, no harm will result, and slight differences either way can be tolerated by healthy plants. Fatal or long-term damage, not easily discernible at first, can result from using water that is too cold. Please click the link to read article about Light, Humidity, Feeding and Tempature : http://www.worldofflower.net/worldofflower.net/Care tips for your orchid.htm |
Care tips for your orchid
Please click the link to read article about Light, Humidity, Feeding and Tempature : http://www.worldofflower.net/worldofflower.net/Care tips for your orchid.htm I know very little about orchids. What kind of food do you feed a orchid? Do they store their food? In what form and where? I thought they were autotrophs. Shows how much I know. BTW the ghost flower is a heterotroph. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...st_flower.html -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
Care tips for your orchid
"Johnny Borborigmi" wrote in message ... On 2008-01-15 21:03:45 -0500, "symplastless" said: Please click the link to read article about Light, Humidity, Feeding and Tempature : http://www.worldofflower.net/worldofflower.net/Care tips for your orchid.htm I know very little about orchids. What kind of food do you feed a orchid? Do they store their food? In what form and where? I thought they were autotrophs. Shows how much I know. BTW the ghost flower is a heterotroph. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...st_flower.html You can use regular miracle or any 10-10-10 food. No "special" ferti;izer is needed. Oh, so you really are not feeding the plant. Just applying N-P-K. BTW there are 14 other essential elements. Some more important than others in different amounts for different plants. 14 From the soil. They are C; H; N; O; P; K; S; Mg; Ni; Fe; Ca; Zn; Mo; Mn; B; Cl; Cu I guess that the orchid must be an autotroph. Autotrophs manufacture their own food and we do not feed them. That is the case for most plants. I say most because of exceptions like Ghost Flowers. They have no chlorophyll to trap sunlight energy and manufacture food. They are more like a heterotroph. Humans are heterotrophs. The chemical companies trick you to believing their product is food. Food is a substance that provides and energy source, mostly. Nutrient is a substance that provides an energy source, elements, and other substances essential for life, in types and amounts that can provide a healthy life. Fertilizer is a substance that provides elements, as salts mostly, or in bonded forms, that require microorganisms to alter to forms that can be absorbed or taken in by plants. They are not absorbing in the sense of a Bounty paper towel. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
Care tips for your orchid
"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:28:43 -0500, Johnny Borborigmi wrote: On 2008-01-15 21:03:45 -0500, "symplastless" said: Please click the link to read article about Light, Humidity, Feeding and Tempature : http://www.worldofflower.net/worldofflower.net/Care tips for your orchid.htm I know very little about orchids. What kind of food do you feed a orchid? Do they store their food? In what form and where? I thought they were autotrophs. Shows how much I know. BTW the ghost flower is a heterotroph. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...st_flower.html You can use regular miracle or any 10-10-10 food. No "special" ferti;izer is needed. Orchids need more phosporous in order to flower than the fertilizer you describe. People mostly use synthetic salt based fertilizers. I think proper maintenance is more important than fertilization. Misting the plants daily and keeping them in clean conditions with as much humidity as possible is optimum. That makes sense! -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Johnny Borborigmi" wrote in message ... On 2008-01-17 08:54:14 -0500, Jangchub said: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:28:43 -0500, Johnny Borborigmi wrote: On 2008-01-15 21:03:45 -0500, "symplastless" said: Please click the link to read article about Light, Humidity, Feeding and Tempature : http://www.worldofflower.net/worldofflower.net/Care tips for your orchid.htm I know very little about orchids. What kind of food do you feed a orchid? Do they store their food? In what form and where? I thought they were autotrophs. Shows how much I know. BTW the ghost flower is a heterotroph. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...st_flower.html You can use regular miracle or any 10-10-10 food. No "special" ferti;izer is needed. Orchids need more phosporous in order to flower than the fertilizer you describe. People mostly use synthetic salt based fertilizers. I think proper maintenance is more important than fertilization. Misting the plants daily and keeping them in clean conditions with as much humidity as possible is optimum. Misting does nothing unless you're going to do it every 5-10 minutes 24 hours a day. A good humidifier is more important. I stand by my other post. I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Jangchub" wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. I fertilize plants indoors using simple liquid seaweed and so far, so good. I've had the same house plants for over a decade and made many plants from their offshoots. I also ran very large greenhouse operations and was a grower. But what do I know. Rhetorical of course. One heck of a lot more than a so called tree biologist. |
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"Don Staples" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. I fertilize plants indoors using simple liquid seaweed and so far, so good. I've had the same house plants for over a decade and made many plants from their offshoots. I also ran very large greenhouse operations and was a grower. But what do I know. Rhetorical of course. One heck of a lot more than a so called tree biologist. Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Billy Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...490698,00.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
Care tips for your orchid
"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. Autotrophs Very good question. People of course may disagree with my definition. That is fine. I will provide you with my definition so you will understand what I mean. If somebody else uses the word, you may want to ask them to define so you understand what they mean. Autotrophs make their own food. Heterotrophs have to have it made for them. Not the last word on the topic. Most trees and plants are autotrophs. E.g., An oak tree. An oak tree absorbs (not like a Bounty paper towel though - that was just pointed out to me) essential elements dissolved in water with non-woody roots and the help of organs, for example, mycorrhizae and root hairs. Mycorrhizae are composite organs consisting of tree tissue and fungi. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...corrhizae.html Root hairs are the extension of a single cell. A root hair is the extension of a single epidermal cell, epidermal, which means skin. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...oot_hairs.html Oak trees with the water, essential elements and trapped sun light energy manufacture their food with the process called photosynthesis. Generally speaking, after many processes glucose (tree food) is manufactured. One reaction is the glucose is transformed into starch and stored in living parenchyma. Trees only store starch in living cells. They load, store and then use - water, elements and glucose as it is manufactured. The collection of living cells is called the symplast. Most of these words are in my dictionary. I call this type of organism a autotroph. Even though the bag in the store says tree food, it is not tree food. Elements are very important. That's why we call them essential elements. Elements can be found here. http://www.webelements.com/ The most recognized essential elements for trees are - C; H; N; O; P; K; S; Mg; Ni; Fe; Ca; Zn; Mo; Mn; B; Cl; Cu Different species of plants require different amounts of the latter. E.g., legumes such as black locust, coffee tree have a unique requirement for cobalt. I think it is pertaining to nitrogen fixation. A new topic to me, i.e., the requirement of cobalt for legumes. Now, there are, as always in nature, exceptions. E.g., The Ghost Flower. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...flowers-1.html It is a plant with no chlorophyll. It cannot photosynthesis and manufacture its own food or nutrients. It gets its required food, nutrients etc., by way of the bicarbohydrate transfer of plants. It then would fall under the heterotroph category. We cannot provide food for the ghost flower. It is manufactured by other plants and then transferred. What would you call the host to an autotroph? Animals such as humans are heterotrophs, us, like the Ghost Flower, have to have something or someone else manufacture our food for us. We cannot photosynthesis to manufacture our required food. Glucose is the international biological currency. I require it, you require it, other animals and plants require it. "All" is not a term that can be used often. I am thinking, just a thought, that all living organisms living on Earth require glucose. Without it we would not be here. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Billy" wrote in message
... In article , "Don Staples" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. I fertilize plants indoors using simple liquid seaweed and so far, so good. I've had the same house plants for over a decade and made many plants from their offshoots. I also ran very large greenhouse operations and was a grower. But what do I know. Rhetorical of course. One heck of a lot more than a so called tree biologist. Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. |
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"Don Staples" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. As usual Don, long on epithets and short on information. Shame on you and the school you attended. At the risk of irritating the fair poster from New South Wales, I find you puzzling Don. What are you trying to advance in your incessant attacks upon John? Trying to dehumanize John by calling him "deadwood" is just school yard name calling at best and doesn't resolve anything. So, basically , you're in this group to attack John. Is that right? If that is it, then get a life. If you don't approve of how John shares his knowledge then, answer them yourself. If you're too lazy to respond, then let John answer them. There are a lot of safety nets in these group: gardeners helping other gardeners. Or, is it that you think John is disseminating erroneous information? If so, join the group and correct his information. He seems to have more energy and time than most of us. Let's put him to work, spreading good tree management information. Just correct him, if he jumps the tracks. Then our little news groups can get back to tour peaceful ways of contemplating the beauty in life. -- Bush Behind Bars Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
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"Don Staples" wrote in message ... "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Don Staples" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. I fertilize plants indoors using simple liquid seaweed and so far, so good. I've had the same house plants for over a decade and made many plants from their offshoots. I also ran very large greenhouse operations and was a grower. But what do I know. Rhetorical of course. One heck of a lot more than a so called tree biologist. Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. here is 2 tree questions. You say "fighting deadwood" Very loose terms and not lucid. I never heard of such a thing. Please explain what you are saying. Define "dead" = Define "wood" = See, wood is not static so it may be hard to define like humic acids. Its constantly going through ecological stages. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"kzin" wrote in message ... On 18-Jan-2008, Johnny Borborigmi wrote: Oh, so you really are not feeding the plant. Just applying N-P-K. Jesus SNIP Christ on a unicyle you guys anal much? Sorry I added an opinion.... it's just the one guy, either killfile him or just ignore him, or find amusement in him Ok, let me break out the "S" word - Stupid. In the USA people have the right to be stupid. They can say and write stupid things. E.g., Fertilizer is food, elements are nutrients, plants absorb nutrients, we have feeder roots, wood is dead, heartrot explains trees response to wounding, wound dressing stops rot, plant trees deep, put mulch on the trunk of trees and good and deep, tree wrap prevents sunscald and frost cracks, stake trees with wire in a hose, wood is dead. Heartrot explains decay. Flush cuts are correct. Wound dressings stop rot. Nature is balanced. Fertilizer is food. Wetwood is bad. Planting deeply is good. Rot is a major cause of failure. Water causes decay. Insects and diseases are the major causes of tree problems. There are at least a hundred more. Myself, I am studying Advanced Tree Biology. In Advanced Tree Biology we reframe from loose, sloppy terms. Why, for a better understanding how the system works. If I see a fellow is so far off tract to call fertilizer plant food, I have enough care, concern, time and passion to help that person better understand plants. Again, some people fight to be stupid and spread it to others. Mostly product pushers are to blame for the continued confussion. I am very thankful that someone took the time to explain to me things like fertilizers are not tree food. Sorry for caring! -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"symplastless" wrote in message . .. "kzin" wrote in message ... On 18-Jan-2008, Johnny Borborigmi wrote: Oh, so you really are not feeding the plant. Just applying N-P-K. Jesus SNIP Christ on a unicyle you guys anal much? Sorry I added an opinion.... it's just the one guy, either killfile him or just ignore him, or find amusement in him Ok, let me break out the "S" word - Stupid. In the USA people have the right to be stupid. They can say and write stupid things. E.g., Fertilizer is food, elements are nutrients, plants absorb nutrients, we have feeder roots, wood is dead, heartrot explains trees response to wounding, wound dressing stops rot, plant trees deep, put mulch on the trunk of trees and good and deep, tree wrap prevents sunscald and frost cracks, stake trees with wire in a hose, wood is dead. Heartrot explains decay. Flush cuts are correct. Wound dressings stop rot. Nature is balanced. Fertilizer is food. Wetwood is bad. Planting deeply is good. Rot is a major cause of failure. Water causes decay. Insects and diseases are the major causes of tree problems. There are at least a hundred more. Myself, I am studying Advanced Tree Biology. In Advanced Tree Biology we reframe from loose, sloppy terms. Why, for a better understanding how the system works. If I see a fellow is so far off tract to call fertilizer plant food, I have enough care, concern, time and passion to help that person better understand plants. Again, some people fight to be stupid and spread it to others. Mostly product pushers are to blame for the continued confussion. I am very thankful that someone took the time to explain to me things like fertilizers are not tree food. Sorry for caring! -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. I forgot one for Don Staples whuile I am at it.. Wood, e.g., cellulose, is bad for a forest so logging must be done in the name of forest health. How much more absurd can you possibly be? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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So much for world peace. Keep beating those plowshares into swords Om.
Looks like a long winter. Time for happy hour;-) -- Billy Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...490698,00.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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"someone" wrote in message ... On 18-Jan-2008, "symplastless" wrote: There are at least a hundred more. please list them all for us but this time, for clarity, don't use any spaces or punctuation. thank you. I will work on it. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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symplastless wrote:
"symplastless" wrote in message . .. "kzin" wrote in message ... On 18-Jan-2008, Johnny Borborigmi wrote: Oh, so you really are not feeding the plant. Just applying N-P-K. Jesus SNIP Christ on a unicyle you guys anal much? Sorry I added an opinion.... it's just the one guy, either killfile him or just ignore him, or find amusement in him Ok, let me break out the "S" word - Stupid. In the USA people have the right to be stupid. They can say and write stupid things. E.g., Fertilizer is food, elements are nutrients, plants absorb nutrients, we have feeder roots, wood is dead, heartrot explains trees response to wounding, wound dressing stops rot, plant trees deep, put mulch on the trunk of trees and good and deep, tree wrap prevents sunscald and frost cracks, stake trees with wire in a hose, wood is dead. Heartrot explains decay. Flush cuts are correct. Wound dressings stop rot. Nature is balanced. Fertilizer is food. Wetwood is bad. Planting deeply is good. Rot is a major cause of failure. Water causes decay. Insects and diseases are the major causes of tree problems. There are at least a hundred more. Myself, I am studying Advanced Tree Biology. In Advanced Tree Biology we reframe from loose, sloppy terms. Why, for a better understanding how the system works. If I see a fellow is so far off tract to call fertilizer plant food, I have enough care, concern, time and passion to help that person better understand plants. Again, some people fight to be stupid and spread it to others. Mostly product pushers are to blame for the continued confussion. I am very thankful that someone took the time to explain to me things like fertilizers are not tree food. Sorry for caring! -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. I forgot one for Don Staples whuile I am at it.. Wood, e.g., cellulose, is bad for a forest so logging must be done in the name of forest health. How much more absurd can you possibly be? Please tell me that English is not your native language. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"someone" wrote in message ... On 18-Jan-2008, "symplastless" wrote: There are at least a hundred more. please list them all for us but this time, for clarity, don't use any spaces or punctuation. thank you. I will work on it throughout my day. However, a very good book that you can get your library to get is 100 Tree Myths by Shigo. It's about myths and half truths. The book is only $14.00. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/100MYTH.html I will be working on others. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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Johnny Borborigmi wrote in
: On 2008-01-18 18:17:46 -0500, "symplastless" said: Wound dressings stop rot. Nature is balanced. Fertilizer is food. Wetwood is bad. Planting deeply is good. Rot is a major cause of failure. Water causes decay. Insects and diseases are the major causes of tree problems. There are at least a hundred more. "Wound dressings" are no longer recommended, it ( as I always believed) is not needed. Trees heal themselves fine without our "help". and planting *too* deeply will kill the tree. while rot may be a major cause of failure, one shouldn't have rot issues if one prunes correctly & doesn't plant too deep. lee |
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"Johnny Borborigmi" wrote in message ... On 2008-01-18 18:17:46 -0500, "symplastless" said: Wound dressings stop rot. Nature is balanced. Fertilizer is food. Wetwood is bad. Planting deeply is good. Rot is a major cause of failure. Water causes decay. Insects and diseases are the major causes of tree problems. There are at least a hundred more. "Wound dressings" are no longer recommended, it ( as I always believed) is not needed. Trees heal themselves fine without our "help". Trees heal wounds is another myth. Heal is a animal term often used with plants and trees. Trees compartmentalize wounds. Healing is regenerating term while trees generate and not regenerate. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...alization.html Trees seal not heal. About trees not requiring our help. When a tree is wounded, trees cannot restore injured tissues in their same spatial position. Trees are generating systems. Animals are regenerating systems. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ng_system.html Trees form new cells in new spatial positions as trees are wounded throughout their lives. Heal means to restore in the same spatial position. Animals are regenerating systems that form new cells, and new cell parts in the previously occupied spatial positions. Healing and when injured, animals speed up their normal regenerating processes, and this is called healing. When trees are injured and infected they chemically strengthen their boundaries that resist spread of infections in wood at time of wounding, - reaction zone -(http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...tion_zone.html) and then trees form another new anatomical and chemical boundary that separates the infected wood from the new healthy wood that continues to form - barrier zone (http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...rier_zone.html. This defense process in trees is called compartmentalization. CODIT is a model of Compartmentalization (see A New Tree Biology and the many research papers listed in this book that support this concept). http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/C/CODIT.html Adjustments to targets, is what the trees require. See "Tree Pruning" http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning/ More on generators and regenerators Humans are regenerating systems. Trees are generating systems. Both systems have good and bad points. generating systems do not heal wounds and do not move. Generating systems are subject to the mass energy ratio. As gens get larger in mass, energy needs increase as a parabolic curve. Gens usually live longer than the regens. Regens move to avoid pain and conflicts. Regens are almost entirely all symplast. Gens have a relatively smaller symplast. Humans, regenerating systems. Trees, generating systems. Humans come in groups but try to be individuals in families. Trees come in groups, but very few ever reach maturity and reproduce. In the end, all are recycled for new life as light drives the processes. Think about it. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Billy" wrote in message
... In article , "Don Staples" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. As usual Don, long on epithets and short on information. Shame on you and the school you attended. At the risk of irritating the fair poster from New South Wales, I find you puzzling Don. What are you trying to advance in your incessant attacks upon John? Trying to dehumanize John by calling him "deadwood" is just school yard name calling at best and doesn't resolve anything. So, basically , you're in this group to attack John. Is that right? If that is it, then get a life. If you don't approve of how John shares his knowledge then, answer them yourself. If you're too lazy to respond, then let John answer them. There are a lot of safety nets in these group: gardeners helping other gardeners. Or, is it that you think John is disseminating erroneous information? If so, join the group and correct his information. He seems to have more energy and time than most of us. Let's put him to work, spreading good tree management information. Just correct him, if he jumps the tracks. Then our little news groups can get back to tour peaceful ways of contemplating the beauty in life. -- His posted name translates to deadwood in English, did you not notice? Besides, you are close to becoming the same pain in the ass that John is, tho for different reasons. Since this is a free web site, and since John and you continue your propaganda, it is fitting that anyone tells you to stuff it, on occasions. |
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... "Don Staples" wrote in message ... "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Don Staples" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. I fertilize plants indoors using simple liquid seaweed and so far, so good. I've had the same house plants for over a decade and made many plants from their offshoots. I also ran very large greenhouse operations and was a grower. But what do I know. Rhetorical of course. One heck of a lot more than a so called tree biologist. Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. here is 2 tree questions. You say "fighting deadwood" Very loose terms and not lucid. I never heard of such a thing. Please explain what you are saying. Define "dead" = Define "wood" = See, wood is not static so it may be hard to define like humic acids. Its constantly going through ecological stages. Look up symplastless in your so called dictionary. Never trust a so called consulting arboist/tree biologist that has never studied biology. |
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. .. Myself, I am studying Advanced Tree Biology. In Advanced Tree Biology we reframe from loose, sloppy terms. Why, for a better understanding how the system works. If I see a fellow is so far off tract to call fertilizer plant food, I have enough care, concern, time and passion to help that person better understand plants. Again, some people fight to be stupid and spread it to others. Mostly product pushers are to blame for the continued confussion. Out of curiosity, where are you studying Advanced Tree Biology? |
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... "symplastless" wrote in message I forgot one for Don Staples whuile I am at it.. Wood, e.g., cellulose, is bad for a forest so logging must be done in the name of forest health. How much more absurd can you possibly be? Uh, could you possibly try and explain what your talking about? Where as logging has something to do with cellulose (i.e., that's what is harvested) where did I, or any one else, ever say cellulose (what a forest is) is bad for a forest? You really need to take your meds. Beware of so-called tree experts/consulting arborists/tree biologists who do not understand tree biology, because they never studied biology. |
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"Don Staples" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message . .. Myself, I am studying Advanced Tree Biology. In Advanced Tree Biology we reframe from loose, sloppy terms. Why, for a better understanding how the system works. If I see a fellow is so far off tract to call fertilizer plant food, I have enough care, concern, time and passion to help that person better understand plants. Again, some people fight to be stupid and spread it to others. Mostly product pushers are to blame for the continued confussion. Out of curiosity, where are you studying Advanced Tree Biology? It is an educational course on DVD. Not available to the public yet. I anticipate it will be soon. I study where ever I get the chance. If you are interested Don, let me know and I will place a request for the latter. I am actually working on a table of contents for the program. Good question. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Don Staples" wrote in message ... "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Don Staples" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. As usual Don, long on epithets and short on information. Shame on you and the school you attended. At the risk of irritating the fair poster from New South Wales, I find you puzzling Don. What are you trying to advance in your incessant attacks upon John? Trying to dehumanize John by calling him "deadwood" is just school yard name calling at best and doesn't resolve anything. So, basically , you're in this group to attack John. Is that right? If that is it, then get a life. If you don't approve of how John shares his knowledge then, answer them yourself. If you're too lazy to respond, then let John answer them. There are a lot of safety nets in these group: gardeners helping other gardeners. Or, is it that you think John is disseminating erroneous information? If so, join the group and correct his information. He seems to have more energy and time than most of us. Let's put him to work, spreading good tree management information. Just correct him, if he jumps the tracks. Then our little news groups can get back to tour peaceful ways of contemplating the beauty in life. -- His posted name translates to deadwood in English, did you not notice? Besides, you are close to becoming the same pain in the ass that John is, tho for different reasons. Since this is a free web site, and since John and you continue your propaganda, it is fitting that anyone tells you to stuff it, on occasions. Don, you make alot of noise. You refuse to define your terms so no one has a clue what the heck you are writing about. Sad for sure. Oh well, I will pray for you. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Don Staples" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message ... "Don Staples" wrote in message ... "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Don Staples" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. I fertilize plants indoors using simple liquid seaweed and so far, so good. I've had the same house plants for over a decade and made many plants from their offshoots. I also ran very large greenhouse operations and was a grower. But what do I know. Rhetorical of course. One heck of a lot more than a so called tree biologist. Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. here is 2 tree questions. You say "fighting deadwood" Very loose terms and not lucid. I never heard of such a thing. Please explain what you are saying. Define "dead" = Define "wood" = See, wood is not static so it may be hard to define like humic acids. Its constantly going through ecological stages. Look up symplastless in your so called dictionary. Never trust a so called consulting arboist/tree biologist that has never studied biology. DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD I SAY!!!!!!! Believe because you see it for yourself. A requirement to study and understand tree biology does include tree biology. Are we supposed to trust Don Staples? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Don Staples" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message I forgot one for Don Staples whuile I am at it.. Wood, e.g., cellulose, is bad for a forest so logging must be done in the name of forest health. How much more absurd can you possibly be? Uh, could you possibly try and explain what your talking about? Where as logging has something to do with cellulose (i.e., that's what is harvested) where did I, or any one else, ever say cellulose (what a forest is) is bad for a forest? You really need to take your meds. many projects on the Allegheny National Forest are planned under the false premise that logging helps increase the health of a forest. It probably would not take long to review your website and find the latter. Your site here for starters, give me a chance and I will find more examples. http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm please explain what biological benefit logging has for forest health? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. Beware of so-called tree experts/consulting arborists/tree biologists who do not understand tree biology, because they never studied biology. |
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"Jangchub" wrote in message ... Sorry to post on top, but your reply is quite lengthy. I didn't see anywhere in your post which tells me anything about how orchids are autotrophs. In fact, you went off into trees again, and mycorrhizae. Are they autotrophs or heterotrophs? Please explain. I just know the crowd out native stinkweeds. Yes, trees indeed to depend greatly on the fungal mat, certainly in harsh conditions, but mycorrhizae does not replace the function of root hairs, it makes root hairs more efficient. The drip line of a tree is most important because it's generally where the root hairs are located. Trees indeed to depend on elements, and elements are made available by micro and macro orgnanisms in the soil. I "feed" the soil, not the tree. I believe you do. However, don't mistake my words to mean that trees make their own food, they do not. Explain what photosynthesis is? Soil biota takes plant litter and turns it into a form which gives rise to uptake by root hairs. Trees do not uptake carbohydrates or can you feed a tree carbohydrates. It you could you would put the sun out of business. Fungal mat is something which extends this area beyond the drip line making elements and water through capillary action available to the root hairs. Still, it's the root hairs which are the uptake of a tree, not mycorrhizae. Without mycorrhizae it would be difficult for many species to uptake phosphates. How does a fungal mat found IN soil do anything for an epiphyte? I do not understand the question. What is a epiphyte? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:41:08 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: Autotrophs Very good question. People of course may disagree with my definition. That is fine. I will provide you with my definition so you will understand what I mean. If somebody else uses the word, you may want to ask them to define so you understand what they mean. Autotrophs make their own food. Heterotrophs have to have it made for them. Not the last word on the topic. Most trees and plants are autotrophs. E.g., An oak tree. An oak tree absorbs (not like a Bounty paper towel though - that was just pointed out to me) essential elements dissolved in water with non-woody roots and the help of organs, for example, mycorrhizae and root hairs. Mycorrhizae are composite organs consisting of tree tissue and fungi. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...corrhizae.html Root hairs are the extension of a single cell. A root hair is the extension of a single epidermal cell, epidermal, which means skin. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...oot_hairs.html Oak trees with the water, essential elements and trapped sun light energy manufacture their food with the process called photosynthesis. Generally speaking, after many processes glucose (tree food) is manufactured. One reaction is the glucose is transformed into starch and stored in living parenchyma. Trees only store starch in living cells. They load, store and then use - water, elements and glucose as it is manufactured. The collection of living cells is called the symplast. Most of these words are in my dictionary. I call this type of organism a autotroph. Even though the bag in the store says tree food, it is not tree food. Elements are very important. That's why we call them essential elements. Elements can be found here. http://www.webelements.com/ The most recognized essential elements for trees are - C; H; N; O; P; K; S; Mg; Ni; Fe; Ca; Zn; Mo; Mn; B; Cl; Cu Different species of plants require different amounts of the latter. E.g., legumes such as black locust, coffee tree have a unique requirement for cobalt. I think it is pertaining to nitrogen fixation. A new topic to me, i.e., the requirement of cobalt for legumes. Now, there are, as always in nature, exceptions. E.g., The Ghost Flower. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...flowers-1.html It is a plant with no chlorophyll. It cannot photosynthesis and manufacture its own food or nutrients. It gets its required food, nutrients etc., by way of the bicarbohydrate transfer of plants. It then would fall under the heterotroph category. We cannot provide food for the ghost flower. It is manufactured by other plants and then transferred. What would you call the host to an autotroph? Animals such as humans are heterotrophs, us, like the Ghost Flower, have to have something or someone else manufacture our food for us. We cannot photosynthesis to manufacture our required food. Glucose is the international biological currency. I require it, you require it, other animals and plants require it. "All" is not a term that can be used often. I am thinking, just a thought, that all living organisms living on Earth require glucose. Without it we would not be here. |
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"enigma" wrote in message . .. Johnny Borborigmi wrote in : On 2008-01-18 18:17:46 -0500, "symplastless" said: Wound dressings stop rot. Nature is balanced. Fertilizer is food. Wetwood is bad. Planting deeply is good. Rot is a major cause of failure. Water causes decay. Insects and diseases are the major causes of tree problems. There are at least a hundred more. "Wound dressings" are no longer recommended, it ( as I always believed) is not needed. Trees heal themselves fine without our "help". and planting *too* deeply will kill the tree. while rot may be a major cause of failure, one shouldn't have rot issues if one prunes correctly & doesn't plant too deep. lee Thanks for the info! Bless you bless you bless you! -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"symplastless" wrote in message . .. Don, you do not understand or know how to work with nature. You work against nature. Why would there be a requirement to "salvage" cellulose, or shall I lucidly say, "ROB" the forest, of much required cellulose? And you say you are a forester. Maybe I am a forester. No, you are a freaking nut job. Beware of so-called tree experts who never studied biology. |
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"symplastless" wrote in message . .. "Don Staples" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message I forgot one for Don Staples whuile I am at it.. Wood, e.g., cellulose, is bad for a forest so logging must be done in the name of forest health. How much more absurd can you possibly be? Uh, could you possibly try and explain what your talking about? Where as logging has something to do with cellulose (i.e., that's what is harvested) where did I, or any one else, ever say cellulose (what a forest is) is bad for a forest? You really need to take your meds. many projects on the Allegheny National Forest are planned under the false premise that logging helps increase the health of a forest. It probably would not take long to review your website and find the latter. Your site here for starters, give me a chance and I will find more examples. http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm please explain what biological benefit logging has for forest health? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. Beware of so-called tree experts/consulting arborists/tree biologists who do not understand tree biology, because they never studied biology. Clip from http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm "Nature just does not cooperate with the best of management efforts. At that time you may have to salvage whats left." Don, you do not understand or know how to work with nature. You work against nature. Why would there be a requirement to "salvage" cellulose, or shall I lucidly say, "ROB" the forest, of much required cellulose? And you say you are a forester. Maybe I am a forester. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. FORESTER http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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The section on your website is conviently bad! What is a Consulting Forester at http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/forestry/staples.htm I would really like to understand just what a What is a Consulting Forester is to you. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"someone" wrote in message ... On 18-Jan-2008, "symplastless" wrote: There are at least a hundred more. please list them all for us but this time, for clarity, don't use any spaces or punctuation. thank you. Here is my first 21. I am working on it. Please have a little patience. Myths and half truths Meristematic points are dormant buds Trees heal wounds Trees have root flares at the base of the trunk Trees are a natural renewable resource, keep cutting them and they will come back the way they were Peach trees respond like apple trees internally when pruned. Soil is dirt. All tree species have heartwood. The cambial zone is a single layer of cells. Wood, cellulose mostly, is harmful if left in a once fertile forest. Wood is dead, wood is dead, wood is dead! Thinning out, removing the inner crowns of a tree, makes a tree more wind resistant. Fertilizer is food. Elements are nutrients. Trees absorb nutrients All fungi is bad. Salvaging wood, cellulose mostly, is restoration. Nature just does not cooperate with the best of management efforts. At that time you may have to salvage whats left In forestry, "Usually the sales material is damaged dead, or dying." So logging is required. Wood in a forest - "best to move the material, get it out of the way for future work." Restoration in a forest, can mean a lot of work, depending on what caused the initial damage. How about logging injury? A chain saw is not a scientific tool. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Jangchub" wrote in message ... Orchids are pushing out stinkweeds? What is an epiphyte? Are you kidding me? When I find the statement about stinkweeds I will let you know. So I looked up epiphyte. So the Ganoderma tsugae is and epiphyte. But mycorrhizae, which is made up of tree root and fungus tissues is actually part of the plant. It's a composite organ. It does facilitate the taking in of phosphates. A lichen would be a epiphyte. See I do not have all the answers. Here is a story on mycorrhizae. http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...go/WINTER.html -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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BrownFingers wrote: symplastless;770744 Wrote: "Johnny Borborigmi" wrote in message ...- On 2008-01-15 21:03:45 -0500, "symplastless" said: - - Please click the link to read article about Light, Humidity, Feeding and Tempature : http://tinyurl.com/2z26da tips for your orchid.htm- I know very little about orchids. What kind of food do you feed a orchid? Do they store their food? In what form and where? I thought they were autotrophs. Shows how much I know. BTW the ghost flower is a heterotroph. http://tinyurl.com/yo38zt- You can use regular miracle or any 10-10-10 food. No "special" ferti;izer is needed.- Oh, so you really are not feeding the plant. Just applying N-P-K. BTW there are 14 other essential elements. Some more important than others in different amounts for different plants. 14 From the soil. They are C; H; N; O; P; K; S; Mg; Ni; Fe; Ca; Zn; Mo; Mn; B; Cl; Cu I guess that the orchid must be an autotroph. Autotrophs manufacture their own food and we do not feed them. That is the case for most plants. I say most because of exceptions like Ghost Flowers. They have no chlorophyll to trap sunlight energy and manufacture food. They are more like a heterotroph. Humans are heterotrophs. The chemical companies trick you to believing their product is food. Food is a substance that provides and energy source, mostly. Nutrient is a substance that provides an energy source, elements, and other substances essential for life, in types and amounts that can provide a healthy life. Fertilizer is a substance that provides elements, as salts mostly, or in bonded forms, that require microorganisms to alter to forms that can be absorbed or taken in by plants. They are not absorbing in the sense of a Bounty paper towel. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. I eat chips and Battered Fish in the yard cause i live above a chippy so the yard is a messy hole. one of you might want a little project to come and sort the damn thing out if you want? many thanks (its a bloody mess) Wot? Greasy newsprint? Either mulch it and prepare to plant in May or stick a match to it (once it dries it some, say in July or August) and keep a garden hose handy (at hand). You do have garden hoses don't you? So many Europeans (May I call you an European? I mean you all did come over from the Continent after migrating from Africa.) rely completely on the vagaries of the weather for their watering needs. I mean, what the bloody hell is a garden hose manufacturer supposed to do anyway? Well, tootleloo and do give my regards to Attila-the-Hen;-) -- Billy Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...490698,00.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:16:57 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message . .. Orchids are pushing out stinkweeds? What is an epiphyte? Are you kidding me? Sorry, mcorrhizae is autonomous of the tree. It exists without trees. Trees are not the only plant which depends on mychorrizae. I can buy mychorrizae innoculant online. You cannot innoculate with an organ. It is not attached to any tree I know of. Fungal mats exist without the presence of trees. C'mon, you have got to be kidding me. You actually think mychorrizae is made up of tree root AND fungus? It's not. Maybe you better define what mycorrhizae is in your words. It is a Greek word meaning - mycor - fungus rhiza - root. It is an composite structure made up of plant roots (most trees) and fungi. Is it fungi or root? YES! http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...corrhizae.html -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:16:57 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... Orchids are pushing out stinkweeds? What is an epiphyte? Are you kidding me? Sorry, mcorrhizae is autonomous of the tree. It exists without trees. Trees are not the only plant which depends on mychorrizae. I can buy mychorrizae innoculant online. You cannot innoculate with an organ. No, you incoculate with the fungus that produces the organ. Why are you being so picky about this? It is not attached to any tree I know of. Fungal mats exist without the presence of trees. C'mon, you have got to be kidding me. You actually think mychorrizae is made up of tree root AND fungus? It's not. Maybe you better define what mycorrhizae is in your words. It is a Greek word meaning - mycor - fungus rhiza - root. It is an composite structure made up of plant roots (most trees) and fungi. Is it fungi or root? YES! http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...corrhizae.html Why don't you try reading that yourself, but this time read the whole thing and not just the first sentence. It explains how such inoculants work. If you object to the nomenclature commonly used, "Mycorrhizal Inoculant", then would you be so kind as to first suggest an equally succinct alternative and then take the matter up with the producers of such products or the government or someone else who has the power to change that nomenclature instead of continuing to harangue a bunch of people who don't have any control over it? -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
Care tips for your orchid
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. .. "Don Staples" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message ... "Don Staples" wrote in message ... "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Don Staples" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:53:55 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: I am more incline to listen to people who do not claim that fertilizer, elements alone, are food for autotrophs! I am not familiar with the term autotrophs, but I do know orchids (with the exception of some) are epiphytes and take nutrients from air and water which collects between the roots or hold tights and the bark of the tree the plant has adhered to. I fertilize plants indoors using simple liquid seaweed and so far, so good. I've had the same house plants for over a decade and made many plants from their offshoots. I also ran very large greenhouse operations and was a grower. But what do I know. Rhetorical of course. One heck of a lot more than a so called tree biologist. Remind me Don. What was your last post that addressed a plant problem? It seems your whole "raison d'etre" for being in gardening groups is to attack John. It would be a great improvement if you could just throw in a few tid-bits that are on topic. Consider starting a new NG called rec.kill.john.kill, then you could rant to your hearts content and still be on topic. -- Bug off, billy, when a tree question comes up, I will, till then fighting deadwood is a reason to be here. Kind of like asking a back country chemist how to raise pine trees. here is 2 tree questions. You say "fighting deadwood" Very loose terms and not lucid. I never heard of such a thing. Please explain what you are saying. Define "dead" = Define "wood" = See, wood is not static so it may be hard to define like humic acids. Its constantly going through ecological stages. Look up symplastless in your so called dictionary. Never trust a so called consulting arboist/tree biologist that has never studied biology. DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD I SAY!!!!!!! Believe because you see it for yourself. A requirement to study and understand tree biology does include tree biology. Are we supposed to trust Don Staples? What? Trust some one who has actually studied what they make their living at, unlike some lawn care, one pickup, hand written sign like Keslick? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Nut Case |
Care tips for your orchid
"symplastless" wrote in message
. .. "Don Staples" wrote in message ... "symplastless" wrote in message . .. Myself, I am studying Advanced Tree Biology. In Advanced Tree Biology we reframe from loose, sloppy terms. Why, for a better understanding how the system works. If I see a fellow is so far off tract to call fertilizer plant food, I have enough care, concern, time and passion to help that person better understand plants. Again, some people fight to be stupid and spread it to others. Mostly product pushers are to blame for the continued confussion. Out of curiosity, where are you studying Advanced Tree Biology? It is an educational course on DVD. Not available to the public yet. I anticipate it will be soon. I study where ever I get the chance. I didn't know Disney had put one out. Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Nut Case |
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