In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan

Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio.../20&lpage=none

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...994-1097-8632-
92/20&lpage=none

Last cistern I saw was in Ohio in 1968. Living in NJ no need at this
time. Ground water is about 20 feet down. My well is about 40 feet
down but all the new is about 100. Nitrates are the major contaminate
and old gasoline tanks and oil residues.


Bill

http://waltonfeed.com/old/cistern.html

http://www.google.com/search?client=...tern&ie=UTF-8&
oe=UTF-8

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...994-1097-8632-
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.
And you have to pay for a garbage can. We get our poly drums for free.

Jan

Jan Flora wrote:
�Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. �Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: �http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1....
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the �barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1...
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

You can pull your head out of your backside now Shelly. So what
was that thing about Christians, and why is it an unfortunate name?
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1...
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

You can pull your head out of your backside now Shelly. So what
was that thing about Christians, and why is it an unfortunate name?

Hey now, be nice! :-) I've seen pics of Sheldon's gardens and produce.
And he is a cat lover. g His garden produce is gorgeous.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1...
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

I wonder about using a good ol' fashioned wood barrel, sealed with bees
wax?

It'd be more decorative at the very least.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

You are so right about rubbermade. I've got some trash containers out
back made by them that are older than 5 years. They last forever.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan

Also beware of mosquitos.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan

Also beware of mosquitos.

That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've
used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the
driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan

Also beware of mosquitos.

That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jan Flora wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've
used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!
Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the
driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch the rainwater
from the downspouts on your house. If you want to spend a lot of money,
you can buy rain barrels that have hose bibs already installed in them.
I think Gardener's Supply sells them.

A caveat: you may want to put a piece of plywood or something over the
top of the barrels, to keep debris out. At the very least, put a little
piece of wood -- a stick or something -- in there, so little birds won't
drown. If they get in there, they can climb onto the stick, dry out and
fly away.

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.

In article ,
Jonno wrote:

Food grade poly drums are available from canneries. They buy their
vinegar in them.

Jan
Also beware of mosquitos.
That is likely to happen.
Use BT dunks.

That will keep mosquitos out of standing water?
Put in some goldfish. Theyre organic eat mossies, and you can always eat
them when they grow big enough.

But carp are so bony! ;-)

I'd personally vote for bass or crappie minnows!
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson