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I have two small columns of stones in the back yard. In front of each, I
planted three day lilies two years ago. This week, the first of 100 possible
blooms have opened.

A few photos: http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/daily/daily.htm

My daughter is a huge fan of Tiger Lilies. Here in the Northeastern US,
Tigers are considered weeds - they grow everywhere, seen most alongside the
roadways. Didn't take me long to figure out that no local nurseries sold the
things, and more than one nursery told me to take a shovel, drive out into
the countryside somewhere, and dig some up. So that's exactly what I did.
Like the day lilies, the Tigers have now spread out quickly and are throwing
up dozens of stalks, which usually bloom on Father's Day. One person warmed
me that the Tigers would try to take over my entire back yard. Is that a bad
thing?

After this year's bloom, I'll be transplanting some of the tigers to
strategic places about the property, leaving the rest as a sort of nursery
of my own. I want LOTS of them.

Point is, with no attention or tending from me, these lilies have done
fantastically well. I am not generally an active gardener, but do enjoy
maintenance. I will work on a given area to create an "environment" by
clearing the area, bringing in new plants, and arranging things to my own
liking. But the occasional weeding is the extent of my overall landscaping.

I need more plants like these, that can take care of themselves, grow and
spread, and put forth fantastic beauty year after year.

dwight


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On Jun 5, 9:22*pm, "dwight" wrote:
I have two small columns of stones in the back yard. In front of each, I
planted three day lilies two years ago. This week, the first of 100 possible
blooms have opened.

A few photos:http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/daily/daily.htm

My daughter is a huge fan of Tiger Lilies. Here in the Northeastern US,
Tigers are considered weeds - they grow everywhere, seen most alongside the
roadways. Didn't take me long to figure out that no local nurseries sold the
things, and more than one nursery told me to take a shovel, drive out into
the countryside somewhere, and dig some up. So that's exactly what I did.
Like the day lilies, the Tigers have now spread out quickly and are throwing
up dozens of stalks, which usually bloom on Father's Day. One person warmed
me that the Tigers would try to take over my entire back yard. Is that a bad
thing?

After this year's bloom, I'll be transplanting some of the tigers to
strategic places about the property, leaving the rest as a sort of nursery
of my own. I want LOTS of them.

Point is, with no attention or tending from me, these lilies have done
fantastically well. I am not generally an active gardener, but do enjoy
maintenance. I will work on a given area to create an "environment" by
clearing the area, bringing in new plants, and arranging things to my own
liking. But the occasional weeding is the extent of my overall landscaping..

I need more plants like these, that can take care of themselves, grow and
spread, and put forth fantastic beauty year after year.

dwight


well, Dwight, first thing, the common daylilies you are referring to
as "Tiger lilies" is not correct. Not that I'm anal about names, I'm
not. The common daylilies that are ditch lilies are hemerocallis and
they were once referred to as "Quanzo Lilies". Not sure why, but they
are the ones most of the hybrids came from. Your referral to "Tiger
lilies" makes most of us think of the ORIENTAL Lilies that come up in
Mid June. From actual bulbs that have scales, the stems rise almost
six to seven feet tall once established, the bulbils are black and at
the base of the lance like leaves and drop off and root and make even
more Tiger lilies, and the petals are reflexed back and spotted black
dots with orange petals. There are other colors of Tiger lilies.
Ditch lilies are the best referal name. And they spread like
wildfire. I had the triple variety of the 'Quanzo" ditch lilies that
have been shared for over 180 years between old ladies. Orange with
maroon throats with three layers of petals and the stems don't break
or give under the weight of the petals and flowers, and blooms?
Awesome. And they spread like weeds. I adore them still. You need to
look for tetraploid daylilies, and for lables that say "rebloomers" as
there are now breeds of them that rebloom in the fall!! beautiful
pictures by the way, and is that an eagle or a hawk? (don't flame me
people, sometimes I just can't tell). I've been going through my many
incredible images I captured of my former "Faerie Holler" which I have
renamed "Vinca Ridge" as vinca major has taken it (as well as probably
millions of 4 o'clocks) over. it's hard to see the many daylilies I
too had of colorations and varieties that boggle my mind now as I see
their faces. My favorite if I could bear it was a tetraploid called
at the time "Bruce". A strong red one that had huge awesome blossoms
and enormous fat buds. Happy gardening and good to meet you. I've
been on this newsgroup writing and sharing and helping with questions
now for over 13 years.

maddie up in the green bowl, surrounded by the Cherokee National
Forest and Appalachians in eastern Tennessee, zone 6b- 7a
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well, Dwight, first thing, the common daylilies you are referring to
as "Tiger lilies" is not correct. Not that I'm anal about names, I'm
not. The common daylilies that are ditch lilies are hemerocallis
and they were once referred to as "Quanzo Lilies". Not sure why,
but they are the ones most of the hybrids came from. Your referral
to "Tiger lilies" makes most of us think of the ORIENTAL Lilies that
come up in Mid June. From actual bulbs that have scales, the stems
rise almost six to seven feet tall once established, the bulbils are
black and at the base of the lance like leaves and drop off and root
and make even more Tiger lilies, and the petals are reflexed back
and spotted black dots with orange petals.


The photos that I pointed to before are day lilies of forgotten origin, but
are not the same that I call "Tiger lilies." For the Tigers, this is a
better photo:
http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/images/flora/0455.htm or
http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/images/flora/0517.htm

While these may not actually BE Tiger lilies, that is what they are commonly
called in this area (around Philly, anyway). In other words, not every
kleenex is a Kleenex. A Google Images search for "tiger lily" shows that
there is widespread confusion about what is and is not a real "Tiger Lily."

There are other colors of Tiger lilies. Ditch lilies are the best referal
name.
And they spread like wildfire.


Yes, but "ditch lily" just doesn't have the same ring to it...

I had the triple variety of the 'Quanzo" ditch lilies that have been
shared
for over 180 years between old ladies. Orange with maroon throats with
three layers of petals and the stems don't break or give under the weight
of the petals and flowers, and blooms? Awesome. And they spread like
weeds. I adore them still. You need to look for tetraploid daylilies, and
for lables that say "rebloomers" as there are now breeds of them that
rebloom in the fall!!


Now that WOULD be something to look for. Mine would be the only yard in the
neighborhood with fall blooms.

beautiful pictures by the way, and is that an eagle or a hawk? (don't
flame
me people, sometimes I just can't tell).


I put those photos up, so that I could ask about that bird in a bird forum.
I was told that it was an osprey, which matches and makes sense - our
property backs up to a reservoir, so we do see the occasional water bird up
in that tree. My favorite was a young green heron who posed for me.
http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/lenses/100_400L/0359.jpg

I've been going through my many incredible images I captured of my
former "Faerie Holler" which I have renamed "Vinca Ridge" as vinca
major has taken it (as well as probably millions of 4 o'clocks) over.
it's hard to see the many daylilies I too had of colorations and varieties
that boggle my mind now as I see their faces. My favorite if I could bear
it was a tetraploid called at the time "Bruce". A strong red one that had
huge awesome blossoms and enormous fat buds.


Happy gardening and good to meet you. I've been on this newsgroup
writing and sharing and helping with questions now for over 13 years.


Thanks. While I am new to THIS newsgroup, I'm not new to usenet at all. I've
always counted on various newsgroups for answers and advice, and the
signal-to-noise ratio here in RG is just fine. Plenty of helpful folks here,
passionate about this topic. Good to see. And thanks for your reply. I've
learned a few new things, which always makes me just that much more
dangerous.

For the first time in my adult life, I finally have a property with room to
do whatever I want (ah, if only I had a water feature - a pond or a burbling
brook). To me, it's still a blank slate, and I'm putting in little touches
here and there, trying to get a feel for the landscape. Because I'm also a
photograpy nut, I find that gardening (or whatever it is that I actually do)
goes hand in hand with that.

One of my grand schemes is to install a wildflower garden of about 25' X 50'
out back, with a mown path throughout and an area for benches, so I can sit
out there and take pictures of whatever comes along...

maddie up in the green bowl, surrounded by the Cherokee National
Forest and Appalachians in eastern Tennessee, zone 6b- 7a


dwight, in the outer überburbs of Philadelphia, with his own little piece of
heaven


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well, Dwight, first thing, the common daylilies you are referring to
as "Tiger lilies" is not correct. Not that I'm anal about names, I'm
not. The common daylilies that are ditch lilies are hemerocallis
and they were once referred to as "Quanzo Lilies". Not sure why,
but they are the ones most of the hybrids came from. Your referral
to "Tiger lilies" makes most of us think of the ORIENTAL Lilies that
come up in Mid June. From actual bulbs that have scales, the stems
rise almost six to seven feet tall once established, the bulbils are
black and at the base of the lance like leaves and drop off and root
and make even more Tiger lilies, and the petals are reflexed back
and spotted black dots with orange petals.


The photos that I pointed to before are day lilies of forgotten origin, but
are not the same that I call "Tiger lilies." For the Tigers, this is a
better photo:
http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/images/flora/0455.htm or
http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/images/flora/0517.htm


Oh yeah, that's a perfectly nice, common daylily (Hemerocallis).
And edible, too. The flowers make a wonderful addition to a
green salad at dinnertime, and no great loss as the blossoms
you pick were going to fade with the evening anyway.


--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

After enlightenment, the laundry.

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On Jun 5, 6:22 pm, "dwight" wrote:
I have two small columns of stones in the back yard. In front of each, I
planted three day lilies two years ago. This week, the first of 100 possible
blooms have opened.

A few photos:http://www.tfrog.com/digitals/daily/daily.htm

My daughter is a huge fan of Tiger Lilies. Here in the Northeastern US,
Tigers are considered weeds - they grow everywhere, seen most alongside the
roadways. Didn't take me long to figure out that no local nurseries sold the
things, and more than one nursery told me to take a shovel, drive out into
the countryside somewhere, and dig some up. So that's exactly what I did.
Like the day lilies, the Tigers have now spread out quickly and are throwing
up dozens of stalks, which usually bloom on Father's Day. One person warmed
me that the Tigers would try to take over my entire back yard. Is that a bad
thing?

After this year's bloom, I'll be transplanting some of the tigers to
strategic places about the property, leaving the rest as a sort of nursery
of my own. I want LOTS of them.

Point is, with no attention or tending from me, these lilies have done
fantastically well. I am not generally an active gardener, but do enjoy
maintenance. I will work on a given area to create an "environment" by
clearing the area, bringing in new plants, and arranging things to my own
liking. But the occasional weeding is the extent of my overall landscaping.

I need more plants like these, that can take care of themselves, grow and
spread, and put forth fantastic beauty year after year.

dwight


Yes, Dwight, the flowers you have pictured are Common Daylily,
Hemerocallis
fulva. (The double flowered variety is Kwanzo) They grow from fleshy,
tuberous
roots.

Tiger lilies are true lilies, Lilium lancifolium. They grow from
bulbs. The petals
are recurved backwards and the blooms have brown/black spots. (Why
people
thought tigers had spots, I don't know, but that's what they named
them)

Whatever you choose to call them, they're both beautiful plants.
Emilie
NorCal
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