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Zoot 01-11-2008 09:58 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good,
and is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler
looked good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?


Bush was "educated." What does that say?

The fact that Obama has run an exceptionally successful campaign compared
to McCain's miserable failure says more than enough about which man is
qualified to be president.


It seems to support my claim that education alone is not a qualification to
be president. As for Obama and his successful campaign - you can't say his
campaign is successful until he is actually president. Otherwise it's not
sucessful. Likewise, McCain has not miserably failed until Obama is
president. Which just might happen...

On the subject of sucessfull campaigns - how does that make anyone qualified
to be president? I would think that convincing people to vote for you has
next to nothing to do with being qualified to be president.



clouddreamer[_2_] 01-11-2008 10:07 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
Zoot wrote:
His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president.
Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good,
and is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler
looked good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did?

Bush was "educated." What does that say?

The fact that Obama has run an exceptionally successful campaign compared
to McCain's miserable failure says more than enough about which man is
qualified to be president.


It seems to support my claim that education alone is not a qualification to
be president. As for Obama and his successful campaign - you can't say his
campaign is successful until he is actually president. Otherwise it's not
sucessful. Likewise, McCain has not miserably failed until Obama is
president. Which just might happen...


McCain has less than a 3% chance of winning. EVs have Obama ahead
WITHOUT the toss up states. His win is a foregone conclusion at this time.

And McCain's campaign has been a disaster. He promised an honourable
campaign, we got fear and smears. He has run out of money and can't even
afford to put boots on the ground on Tuesday since he has put it all
into ads this weekend. His campaign office across the country are manned
by one or two people or are closed. He is only getting a few thousand at
rallies....

Obama is swimming in contributions (and didn't he refuse public money?).
His offices are turning away volunteers. His rally in St. Louis sported
100,000 people to McCain's 2000.

McCain has lost. The writing is on the wall....to those that WANT to see it.


On the subject of sucessfull campaigns - how does that make anyone qualified
to be president? I would think that convincing people to vote for you has
next to nothing to do with being qualified to be president.



Says plenty. Just because you're too blinded by ideology to understand
how running a HUGELY successful campaign makes one a leader doesn't mean
he isn't.

..

--

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCYW4ScUnw

Larry[_6_] 01-11-2008 10:17 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in
:

The progressive tax
system has been the law of the land for a LONG
time now. Get over it.


I'll bite. What's the Title/Code reference or name of the US LAW that says
I have to pay Income Tax on my wages?

Cite SPECIFIC LAW, not the bogus IRS code.

Go ahead, we'll wait.............(sound of crickets chirping)

There is NO LAW that requires you to pay INCOME TAX, an UNAPPORTIONED,
Unconstitutional tax on labor.

You need to sit and watch Aaron Russo's "America - Freedom to Fascism" for
free on YouTube....all 13 parts of it.


Larry[_6_] 01-11-2008 10:23 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
Brian Whatcott wrote in
:

Oh hell. Dumb rednecks cluster in the Republican wing. That's it: I'm
voting Dem.

Brian W


I was all set to proudly click OBAMA's name on the hacked up Diebold
machine, but the other day someone posted a poll on who the JEWS supported
and it was heavily Obama. I asked myself why. BUSH is their lapdog that
attacked two of their enemies for them. I was under the impression Obama
wanted to bring the American troops working for Israel HOME! That would
have made him Israel's worst enemy.

Why are they heavily voting FOR him? What has he promised Isreal?



clouddreamer[_2_] 01-11-2008 10:24 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
Larry wrote:
Brian Whatcott wrote in
:

Oh hell. Dumb rednecks cluster in the Republican wing. That's it: I'm
voting Dem.

Brian W


I was all set to proudly click OBAMA's name on the hacked up Diebold
machine, but the other day someone posted a poll on who the JEWS supported
and it was heavily Obama. I asked myself why. BUSH is their lapdog that
attacked two of their enemies for them. I was under the impression Obama
wanted to bring the American troops working for Israel HOME! That would
have made him Israel's worst enemy.

Why are they heavily voting FOR him? What has he promised Isreal?



They're not voting for Obama for any particular reason.

They're voting AGAINST McCain.

..


--

We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCYW4ScUnw

Mark K. Bilbo 01-11-2008 10:42 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:17:32 +0000 in
, Larry wrote:

"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in
:

The progressive tax
system has been the law of the land for a LONG time now. Get over it.


I'll bite. What's the Title/Code reference or name of the US LAW that
says I have to pay Income Tax on my wages?

Cite SPECIFIC LAW, not the bogus IRS code.

Go ahead, we'll wait.............(sound of crickets chirping)

There is NO LAW that requires you to pay INCOME TAX,


Except there is.

Hint: try to sneak a lot of K-Y into jail with you, you'll need it...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Nine out of ten priests who have tried Camels, prefer young boys.

Mark K. Bilbo 01-11-2008 10:44 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:49:19 -0700 in
, jgalt
wrote:

Obama's ONLY
skill has been taking money from people who earned it and giving it to
people who did NOT earn it.


You mean like Palin, governor of The People's Republic of Alaska?



--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The larger the mob, the harder the test....when the
field is nationwide...then all the odds are on the man
who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre--
the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the
notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

"The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men.
As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more
and more closely, the inner soul of the people.

"We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and
glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their
heart's desire at last, and the White House will be
adorned by a downright moron."

- H. L. Mencken

Mark K. Bilbo 01-11-2008 11:01 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:34:15 -0400 in
, "Paul E. Lehmann"
wrote:

Bill Kearney wrote:

Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):


Because he has no experience,


And George W. Bush's experience was???


Um, running a bunch of businesses into the ground then being governor in
a state that has a constitution that makes the position weak to the point
it's almost a figure head (I live in Texas, it's true, governor is a weak
position under the old 1876 constitution).



--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“A national political campaign is better than the best
circus ever heard of, with a mass baptism and a couple
of hangings thrown in. ”

- H. L. Mencken

Mark K. Bilbo 01-11-2008 11:02 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:30:55 -0700 in
, June
wrote:

You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed head
of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money jobs
offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois legislature
and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character and
intelligence.


Yeah but can he see Russia from his house?

Huh? HUH?



--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Theology is the effort to explain the unknowable
in terms of the not worth knowing.”

- H. L. Mencken

Mark K. Bilbo 01-11-2008 11:03 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:50:29 -0700 in
, "Zoot" wrote:

"June" wrote in message
news:ea29fcf0-e4ad-4351-a34c-

...
You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas
education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed
head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money
jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois
legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character
and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this:


His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be
president.


So you want one without intelligence and education maybe?



--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“It is often argued that religion is valuable because
it makes men good, but even if this were true it would
not be a proof that religion is true. That would be
an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance.
Santa Claus makes children good in precisely the same
way, and yet no one would argue seriously that the
fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is
full of such logical imbecilities.”

- H. L. Mencken

Larry[_6_] 01-11-2008 11:04 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote in news:1k2vt5-92i2.ln1
@blaze.blaze.net:

Except there is.

Hint: try to sneak a lot of K-Y into jail with you, you'll need it...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Nine out of ten priests who have tried Camels, prefer young boys.




And not one shred of evidence in a post made by a 12-year-old mind....

QUOTE THE LAW! They are all listed on:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/

Hundreds of thousands of Americans DON'T pay income taxes, now, many former
IRS employees. The movie introduces you to a few of their worst offenders.


DanielSan 01-11-2008 11:14 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
Bill Kearney wrote:
Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however,
vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note
that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument):


Because he has no experience,


Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only
one who can claim to have experience in being president is:

An incumbent president running for a second term.

has never authored and passed legislation


Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by
Obama?

and will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the
despicable Chicago kind) for all his work?


Do you have a citation for that wild claim?

That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your
myopia.


And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies?



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* It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and *
* was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much *
* that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very *
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DanielSan 01-11-2008 11:18 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
Paul E. Lehmann wrote:
Douglas Berry wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:49:37 -0500 Jangchub
carved the following into
the hard stone of alt.atheism

Wait, Palin went to five colleges to get her
degree in what, who knows.

Jounalism. She wanted to be a sports reporter
and ended up a weather girl.


I wonder which course taught her that man and
dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time :-)


Flintstones 101.


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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and *
* was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much *
* that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very *
* bad weekend for them. *
************************************************** ****

Larry[_6_] 01-11-2008 11:21 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
clouddreamer wrote in
m:

They're not voting for Obama for any particular reason.

They're voting AGAINST McCain.



I can't buy that because Israel runs the Republican party. They are the
one who got us into Iraq to do their bidding for them in the first place.
They are the ones who are trying to get us to attack Iran, which after
living in the country and working for Iran's Air Force under the CIA's
Shah, I find quite funny. The people in the most danger of the Iran
nuclear program are the poor *******s around the nuke plant who are all
going to die WHEN, not if, the plant EXPLODES from gross incompetence.

What we SHOULD be terrified of is Mossad's Nuclear Program we're not
supposed to even think about, much less actually know anything about.
Doesn't anyone remember is Israelis dancing for joy next to a white van
watching WTC burn and collapse on 9/11?!

Bush and the Republicans gave Israel BILLIONS during their reigns. Would
you shoot off your goose laying the golden eggs your agents-in-government
have provided?


David L. Martel 01-11-2008 11:24 PM

Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
 
Larry,

Article I sec.8 gives Congress the power to levy taxes. Taxes on income
have been levied several times in US history. The 16th Amendment to the
Constitution passed in 1913 reaffirms Congress's right to collect income
taxes. The US Tariff Act of 1913 then levied an income tax. The actual
minutia is the IRS codes.

Dave M.




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