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Question NEWBIE NEEDS YOUR HELP! Small town garden pet and child friendly plants

Hi everyone - this is my second attempt at posting this - my first timed out - oops!

Well I am a total newbie to gardening (think greener than the greenest thing you have ever seen).

I live in the uk, and am a single parent to my 2 beautiful young children. Both of my kids are under 5, and my youngest (2) is disabled.He suffers from GDD and cerebral palsy - which means his moility is limited and he appears very clumsy. I have an small dog (affenpinscher), and i am looking to create a garden that we can all enjoy safely!

I have absoloutly no idea where to start - i know nothing about plants, lawn care, planting, garden design, pet and chlid friendly planting, etc etc etc

My garden is a complete blank canvas, and i have the time and wilingness to put in all the labour, i just need the advice and encouragement! I do though (well being a single mammy) have the smallest of small small budgets, so i know this isnt going to be one of those miricle overnight garden makeovers.

my garden is:

* 4m wide x 10m long
* north facing
* house is on south "wall" with small patio in front
* fenced (panel fencing) on 3 remaining sides to 4ft high
* behind north fence is mature hedgerow - 12ft high
* clay soil (solid lol)
* laid to lawn - very patchy, weak and unhealthy looking
* access to garden is only through the house.
* very shady


I want:

* child and pet friendly design
* child and pet friendly planting
* help on selecting shrubs, and all planting
* help and ideas for a design
* not too many annual plants (i'm a single mum and cant afford to replant the garden each spring)
* as much colour and scent as is possible (being child and pet friendly too)

not asking to much am i? I have absoloutly no idea where to start, and need you all to kind of hold my hand through it all, please please please can you help?


Sally xxx
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I suggest you visit your local library and pick up a few gardening design
books.

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Well I am a total newbie to gardening (think greener than the greenest
thing you have ever seen).


I have absoloutly no idea where to start - i know nothing about plants,
lawn care, planting, garden design, pet and chlid friendly planting, etc
etc etc

My garden is a complete blank canvas, and i have the time and
willingness to put in all the labour, i just need the advice and
encouragement!
venusmist


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venusmist wrote:
Hi everyone - this is my second attempt at posting this - my first
timed out - oops!

Well I am a total newbie to gardening (think greener than the greenest
thing you have ever seen).

I live in the uk, and am a single parent to my 2 beautiful young
children. Both of my kids are under 5, and my youngest (2) is
disabled.He suffers from GDD and cerebral palsy - which means his
moility is limited and he appears very clumsy. I have an small dog
(affenpinscher), and i am looking to create a garden that we can all
enjoy safely!

I have absoloutly no idea where to start - i know nothing about
plants, lawn care, planting, garden design, pet and chlid friendly
planting, etc etc etc

My garden is a complete blank canvas, and i have the time and
wilingness to put in all the labour, i just need the advice and
encouragement! I do though (well being a single mammy) have the
smallest of small small budgets, so i know this isnt going to be one
of those miricle overnight garden makeovers.

my garden is:

* 4m wide x 10m long
* north facing
* house is on south "wall" with small patio in front
* fenced (panel fencing) on 3 remaining sides to 4ft high
* behind north fence is mature hedgerow - 12ft high
* clay soil (solid lol)
* laid to lawn - very patchy, weak and unhealthy looking
* access to garden is only through the house.
* very shady


I want:

* child and pet friendly design


I don't often suggest lawn but it is one of the few natural surfaces that
are good for children to play on and have some chance of not turning into
dust/mud. You will have a challenge on solid clay, shaded, facing the pole.
I suggest getting in a lawn person to have a look at it to see if it is
salvageable. I know you said the budget is limited but somebody who knows
their stuff here will save you lots in the long run. Maybe a family friend
or somebody from the local garden club? If it's just too shady it may be
impossible to keep covered.

* child and pet friendly planting


Tough non-toxic non-spiky shrubs. Annuals don't take to being run over so
well.

* help on selecting shrubs, and all planting


Can't help, don't know your region, you need somebody who does.

* help and ideas for a design


Get some books from the library and write down in detail all the things you
want, then start drafting plans. Try to wait until you have seen all the
seasons and know where is wet/dry, some sun/no sun etc, before making the
final decision.

* not too many annual plants (i'm a single mum and cant afford to
replant the garden each spring)


Good idea. Maybe a few for colour in beds out of the flight path that can
self-seed each year and save you replanting.

* as much colour and scent as is possible (being child and pet
friendly too)


Select the right shrubs, grasses and groundcovers.

not asking to much am i? I have absoloutly no idea where to start, and
need you all to kind of hold my hand through it all, please please
please can you help?


Sally xxx


This will be quite difficult but very rewarding if you pull it off. Good
luck.

David

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Thanks people,

I have been out and borrowed a couple of design books from the library, but as to plants, i have absoloutly no idea.

Looking through garden centres etc, it seems every plant "is best planted in full sun", on "well drained soil".

so - what can i plant in my crappy patch? Also none of the lables in the garden centre said whether they were toxic to people or pets.
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:04:16 +0000, venusmist
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Thanks people,

I have been out and borrowed a couple of design books from the library,
but as to plants, i have absoloutly no idea.

Looking through garden centres etc, it seems every plant "is best
planted in full sun", on "well drained soil".

so - what can i plant in my crappy patch? Also none of the lables in
the garden centre said whether they were toxic to people or pets.


For starters determine your patch environment for
water content and humidity
hours of AM/PM sun or dappled sunlight
soil test results
seasonal temperatures

Labels are quite safe for people and pets.


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venusmist wrote:
Thanks people,

I have been out and borrowed a couple of design books from the
library, but as to plants, i have absoloutly no idea.

Looking through garden centres etc, it seems every plant "is best
planted in full sun", on "well drained soil".


Tell me about it!

so - what can i plant in my crappy patch? Also none of the lables in
the garden centre said whether they were toxic to people or pets.


The soil will need to be improved, this is mainly to change the texture and
hydrolic properties, not so much to add nutrients. Put simply the more
organic matter you add the better. Find a local garden club for species
recomendations. Don't worry about the labels.

David

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On Mar 10, 9:04 am, venusmist
wrote:
Thanks people,

I have been out and borrowed a couple of design books from the library,
but as to plants, i have absoloutly no idea.

Looking through garden centres etc, it seems every plant "is best
planted in full sun", on "well drained soil".

so - what can i plant in my crappy patch? Also none of the lables in
the garden centre said whether they were toxic to people or pets.

--
venusmist


try here for toxic plants:

www.aspca.org/pet-care/poison-control/plants

Emilie


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On Mar 10, 6:36 pm, mleblanca wrote:
On Mar 10, 9:04 am, venusmist
wrote:

Thanks people,


I have been out and borrowed a couple of design books from the library,
but as to plants, i have absoloutly no idea.


Looking through garden centres etc, it seems every plant "is best
planted in full sun", on "well drained soil".


so - what can i plant in my crappy patch? Also none of the lables in
the garden centre said whether they were toxic to people or pets.


--
venusmist


try here for toxic plants:

www.aspca.org/pet-care/poison-control/plants

Emilie


Here is another one:

www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/ce/king/

emilie
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