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Ed 25-03-2009 12:46 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed

mark 25-03-2009 01:01 PM

Base for garden shed?
 

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed



I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls. About
£1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position with
the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much of them.
Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer. Erect
shed.


mark



Phisherman[_3_] 25-03-2009 01:01 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:46:34 +0000, Ed ex@directory wrote:

I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed




Depends on what you want to spend. A poured concrete slab is ideal.
Next choice is crushed limestone in a frame. Around here, if a
groundhog, skunk, or chipmonk can get under it, he will.

Ed 25-03-2009 01:08 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On 25/03/09 13:01, mark wrote:
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed



I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls. About
£1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position with
the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much of them.
Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer. Erect
shed.


mark



I don't know these concrete blocks? where to get them? they better than
4 inch x 4 inch wooden bearers?

Ed



mark 25-03-2009 01:40 PM

Base for garden shed?
 




I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls.
About £1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position with
the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much of
them. Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer. Erect
shed.


mark


I don't know these concrete blocks? where to get them? they better than
4 inch x 4 inch wooden bearers?

Ed


Blocks arn't instead of the wooden bearers, they support the bearers and
keep them off the ground.

94p each at Wickes:
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Dense-Blocks...ck/invt/154040

3" by 3" posts would be adequate for such a short span, which would be the
width of your shed, 3foot less block dimension.


mark




brooklyn1 25-03-2009 01:49 PM

Base for garden shed?
 

"Ed" ex@directory wrote:

I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


I've no idea what's a "pent" shed. But regardless, you don't want your shed
directly on the ground or it will rot, and move off level, rack, and fall
apart. A shed needs a sturdy base that permits good drainage and air
circulation. But the most important consideration (especially with a
relatively small shed such as yours) is be certain a shed is solidly
fastened to the ground or first time there's a good wind it will blow away,
probably slam into someone elses property doing great damage, causing you
much grief. There exist various tie down systems for anchoring a shed to
the ground. When installing a shed it is wise to "overkill" (prepare for a
hurricane), the cheap turns out expensive.




The moderator 25-03-2009 02:18 PM

Base for garden shed?
 

"mark" wrote in message
et...

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed



I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls.
About £1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position with
the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much of
them. Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer. Erect
shed.


mark


I agree with the cinder blocks. That whole crushed gravel design is bad
idea.



Ed 25-03-2009 02:28 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On 25/03/09 14:18, The moderator wrote:
"mark" wrote in message
et...
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls.
About £1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position with
the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much of
them. Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer. Erect
shed.


mark


I agree with the cinder blocks. That whole crushed gravel design is bad
idea.


y?



Granby 25-03-2009 02:32 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
Why not build a frame, use sacrete and make it a little wider so you can
insert anchors into it.
"The moderator" wrote in message
. ..

"mark" wrote in message
et...

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few
runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed



I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls.
About £1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position
with the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much
of them. Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.
Erect shed.


mark


I agree with the cinder blocks. That whole crushed gravel design is bad
idea.




CanopyCo 25-03-2009 03:35 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On Mar 25, 7:46*am, Ed ex@directory wrote:
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? *I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


Does this shed come with a floor?

If it does, then just putting a concrete block at each corner will do.

If it does not have a floor, then I would put down a layer of crush
rock and put the shed on that.

The main thing is that you do not want wood touching dirt.
It can touch rock or concrete, but not dirt, or it will rot.




brooklyn1 25-03-2009 03:36 PM

Base for garden shed?
 

"The moderator" wrote in message
. ..

"mark" wrote in message
et...

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few
runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed



I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls.
About £1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position
with the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much
of them. Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.
Erect shed.


mark


I agree with the cinder blocks. That whole crushed gravel design is bad
idea.

Not a bad idea, just a bit more labor, but costs less than other materials
and lasts far longer, and a crushed stone base won't move or rot. The
crushed stone base is built up a few inches above grade for drainage and
compacted by machine, then the shed is set directly on the stone base which
acts as a shed floor, or for fancy schmancy paver blocks can be set on the
compacted crushed stone with the shed atop that... if a paver block patio
were built it would require a 6" crushed stone base, then 2" of sand, then
more sand brushed between the pavers. Crushed stone costs a lot less than
cement blocks, heavy lumber stringers, and heavy exterior ply flooring.

But I wouldn't go crazy over a base for a 5' X 3' shed, it's pretty small, I
don't really think such a small structure qualifys as a shed, it's more a
tool cabinet/closet.... screw a piece of 3/4" ext. plywood to the bottom and
set it atop a 6" X 6" X 10' treated post cut in half and set directly on the
ground... to keep the posts from moving drill a couple of half inch holes
through each and drive in a 2' length of 1/2" rebar into the ground...
refrain from closing off the space underneath, air circulation is important.
This is a simple three hour job, should cost like $40 including the rust
pruf screws. The treated posts should last 15-20 years, perhaps a lot
longer, and can easily be replaced. Just do not neglect to anchor it down
real well, do not scrimp on the anchoring hardware.

My garden shed is the size of an oversized one car garage, in fact it is a
garage, it sets on a compacted crushed stone base.... my huge barn the
same.... most barns are on a compacted crushed stone base. Won't heave when
the ground freezes either.




Ed 25-03-2009 04:11 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On 25/03/09 14:32, Granby wrote:
Why not build a frame, use sacrete and make it a little wider so you can
insert anchors into it.



wot u mean?



Ash 25-03-2009 04:22 PM

Base for garden shed?
 

Blocks arn't instead of the wooden bearers, they support the bearers and
keep them off the ground.

94p each at Wickes:
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Dense-Blocks...ck/invt/154040

3" by 3" posts would be adequate for such a short span, which would be the
width of your shed, 3foot less block dimension.


mark



For my shed on the allotment I had a ring round and found 3 nice and cheap
concrete fence posts from a local garden centre and laid these on the ground
and then popped my shed on top. Quick, cheap and easy ... it's been ok for
the last 10 years and expect it'll be ok for the next 10 years.

You can either leave the gap under the shed for a nice bit of ventilation of
you can just put some wooden offcuts around the base or something similar to
stop anything wanting to make a home underneath ... I left mine open and
found a family of hedgehogs moved in not long after I put the shed up ...
nice little creatures which love to eat all your snails and slugs.

Ash.



Ed 25-03-2009 04:40 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On 25/03/09 13:40, mark wrote:

I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls.
About £1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position with
the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much of
them. Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer. Erect
shed.


mark


I don't know these concrete blocks? where to get them? they better than
4 inch x 4 inch wooden bearers?

Ed


Blocks arn't instead of the wooden bearers, they support the bearers and
keep them off the ground.

94p each at Wickes:
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Dense-Blocks...ck/invt/154040

3" by 3" posts would be adequate for such a short span, which would be the
width of your shed, 3foot less block dimension.


mark



Do I dig out a bed and lay the blocks direct on the ground or do I dig
out a rectangle and fill it with gravel and lay the blocks on this and
then put the bearers on top?

Ed



mark 25-03-2009 05:55 PM

Base for garden shed?
 

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message news:49CA5E8D.9000606@directory...
On 25/03/09 13:40, mark wrote:

I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls.
About £1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position
with the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much
of them. Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.
Erect shed.


mark


I don't know these concrete blocks? where to get them? they better than
4 inch x 4 inch wooden bearers?

Ed


Blocks arn't instead of the wooden bearers, they support the bearers and
keep them off the ground.

94p each at Wickes:
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Dense-Blocks...ck/invt/154040

3" by 3" posts would be adequate for such a short span, which would be the
width of your shed, 3foot less block dimension.


mark



Do I dig out a bed and lay the blocks direct on the ground or do I dig
out a rectangle and fill it with gravel and lay the blocks on this and
then put the bearers on top?

Ed

For my shed, 12 by 8, I just put my blocks direct on the ground, dug them in
a little so that they were 'firmed' in and level with each other. I didn't
dig out anything else. Vegetation underneath (in my case lawn) soon died
off.
mark




[email protected] 25-03-2009 05:58 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
In article ,
mark wrote:

Do I dig out a bed and lay the blocks direct on the ground or do I dig
out a rectangle and fill it with gravel and lay the blocks on this and
then put the bearers on top?


The former. Just level and compact the ground. And you can equally
well use el cheapo concrete slabs, surplus bricks or whatever instead
of blocks. It really doesn't matter.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha[_3_] 25-03-2009 06:25 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On 25/3/09 16:11, in article
net, "Ed" ex@directory wrote:

On 25/03/09 14:32, Granby wrote:
Why not build a frame, use sacrete and make it a little wider so you can
insert anchors into it.



wot u mean?


Ed, this is now cross posted to so many groups that you're getting confusing
advice! It might be better for you if you post to one group that covers
wherever you live, e.g. UK or USA. I've never heard of anyone using
'anchors' on a shed in UK but it's possible that the person who answered you
lives in tornado country! This does not apply to urg - as long as we're
lucky. ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online


[email protected] 25-03-2009 06:34 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Ed, this is now cross posted to so many groups that you're getting confusing
advice! It might be better for you if you post to one group that covers
wherever you live, e.g. UK or USA. I've never heard of anyone using
'anchors' on a shed in UK but it's possible that the person who answered you
lives in tornado country! This does not apply to urg - as long as we're
lucky. ;-)


In an exposed position towards the west, you would need to.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Alang 25-03-2009 07:30 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:34:20 +0000 (GMT), wrote:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Ed, this is now cross posted to so many groups that you're getting confusing
advice! It might be better for you if you post to one group that covers
wherever you live, e.g. UK or USA. I've never heard of anyone using
'anchors' on a shed in UK but it's possible that the person who answered you
lives in tornado country! This does not apply to urg - as long as we're
lucky. ;-)


In an exposed position towards the west, you would need to.


Indeed
I had a 6x5 greenhouse turn into a kite one day. Fortunately no one
was hurt but I anchored the next one in poured concrete at each
corner.

It *was* an exceptional wind that day. Took the roof off a house
higher up the hill completely.

Special Agent Melvin Purvis 25-03-2009 09:29 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On Mar 25, 12:30�pm, Alang wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:34:20 +0000 (GMT), wrote:
In article ,
Sacha wrote:


Ed, this is now cross posted to so many groups that you're getting confusing
advice! �It might be better for you if you post to one group that covers
wherever you live, e.g. UK or USA. �I've never heard of anyone using
'anchors' on a shed in UK but it's possible that the person who answered you
lives in tornado country! � This does not apply to urg - as long as we're
lucky. �;-)


In an exposed position towards the west, you would need to.


Indeed
I had a 6x5 greenhouse turn into a kite one day. Fortunately no one
was hurt but I anchored the next one in poured concrete at each
corner. �

It *was* an exceptional wind that day. Took the roof off a house
higher up the hill completely.


I secured my 8'x5' greenhouse to 25# concrete retaining wall blocks,
six of them, with steel bolts through the frame and into the
concrete. The blocks had been set on bedding gravel and carefully
squared and leveled.

The first storm of winter came along with 70mph gusts and blew the
greenhouse, still fastened to the blocks, right off the bedding
gravel. The greenhouse was shifted about two feet downwind.

With great effort I releveled and squared off the greenhouse again,
then hied me to Home Depot and bought three of those corkscrew dog
stakes, two feet of stainless steel corkscrew about three inches
across, with a hand-sized D handle on top. I ran plastic ties through
the frame and through the handles on the corkscrews. I now laugh at
the gales!

The Medway Handyman 26-03-2009 09:10 AM

Base for garden shed?
 
Ash wrote:

For my shed on the allotment I had a ring round and found 3 nice and
cheap concrete fence posts from a local garden centre and laid these
on the ground and then popped my shed on top. Quick, cheap and easy
... it's been ok for the last 10 years and expect it'll be ok for the
next 10 years.


Yup. BTDTGTTS. Done exactly that for several sheds, works a treat as you
say.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



Ed 26-03-2009 02:09 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On 25/03/09 13:01, mark wrote:
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed



I would use 6 concrete blocks, the sort used for building 100mm walls. About
£1 each.
Place these flat side, 3 along each side of the propsed shed position with
the end ones in a little from the corner so you don't see too much of them.
Cut them half into the ground, and all level to each other.
Then place 3, 3inch square posts across the blocks as bearers.
You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer. Erect
shed.


mark



Mark,

Thanks to you and everyone else for the advice given. Very much
appreciated.

Your suggestion of using 6 concrete blocks sounds like an excellent cost
effective idea for what is only a 5 ft x 3 ft tool shed.

But I am also minded to screw the wooden bearers to the blocks to
minimise any lateral movement and also to screw the wooden flooring
joists of the shed itself to the bearers with 4 (or 6) inch screws
from inside the shed as my allotment plot is indeed in an exposed windy
position. That should be OK eh? It's hardly likely that strong winds
could raise the shed attached to 6 concrete blocks?

Before I erect the shed, I think I will paint all the panels to protect
against rot, especially the underside of the flooring. From what I read
, it seems that a spirit-based formulation would be best as the shed is
smooth planed?

Ed
(Herts, SE England)

P.S. I never missed anyone's messages as I read all the groups I posted
to. For me, it was useful to get a wide view of opinions as everyone's
situation is different experiencing a range of weather and substrate
conditions.









Dioclese 27-03-2009 09:26 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


You leave the reader wondering what the shsd base is made of, at the very
least. Further, you are simply expanding on that by asking a question that
may not have bearing if one had some limited knowledge of the shed and soil
and elevation it will set on itself. If you can't ask a specific queston
with specific information to base an answer on, butt out.
--
Dave
Confront and fight Obama zombieism



Bikini Whacks[_2_] 27-03-2009 11:44 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
In article , "Dioclese"
NONE says...
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


You leave the reader wondering what the shsd base is made of, at the very
least. Further, you are simply expanding on that by asking a question that
may not have bearing if one had some limited knowledge of the shed and soil
and elevation it will set on itself. If you can't ask a specific queston
with specific information to base an answer on, butt out.

Just because your wife is playing up is no reason to direct so much
negativity towards a stranger on usenet.

btw, what is your bed base made of?

Granby 28-03-2009 01:14 AM

Base for garden shed?
 
I am blind and even I don't see why you would need all that information. A
small shed and how to best set it up. Not exactly rocket science the person
just wanted different ways of doing this. I hope this last person wasn't a
regular poster on here or I will go back to just lurking and picking out the
good stuff.
"Bikini Whacks" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dioclese"
NONE says...
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few
runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


You leave the reader wondering what the shsd base is made of, at the very
least. Further, you are simply expanding on that by asking a question
that
may not have bearing if one had some limited knowledge of the shed and
soil
and elevation it will set on itself. If you can't ask a specific queston
with specific information to base an answer on, butt out.

Just because your wife is playing up is no reason to direct so much
negativity towards a stranger on usenet.

btw, what is your bed base made of?




Billy[_7_] 28-03-2009 03:07 AM

Base for garden shed?
 
Just ignore him like the rest of us do. Our new "war president" seems to
have unnerved him.

I would recommend a bolt set in concrete at the four corners of tour
shed. Drill holes. Add a couple of washers (including a lock washer),
screw down nut to set.

Sorry, but I haven't really been following this thread but obviously you
need something of heft to secure your structure.

In article ,
"Granby" wrote:

I am blind and even I don't see why you would need all that information. A
small shed and how to best set it up. Not exactly rocket science the person
just wanted different ways of doing this. I hope this last person wasn't a
regular poster on here or I will go back to just lurking and picking out the
good stuff.
"Bikini Whacks" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dioclese"
NONE says...
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few
runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed

You leave the reader wondering what the shsd base is made of, at the very
least. Further, you are simply expanding on that by asking a question
that
may not have bearing if one had some limited knowledge of the shed and
soil
and elevation it will set on itself. If you can't ask a specific queston
with specific information to base an answer on, butt out.

Just because your wife is playing up is no reason to direct so much
negativity towards a stranger on usenet.

btw, what is your bed base made of?

--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is
now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of
conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

SteveB[_11_] 28-03-2009 04:25 AM

Base for garden shed?
 

"Dioclese" NONE wrote in message
...
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


You leave the reader wondering what the shsd base is made of, at the very
least. Further, you are simply expanding on that by asking a question
that may not have bearing if one had some limited knowledge of the shed
and soil and elevation it will set on itself. If you can't ask a specific
queston with specific information to base an answer on, butt out.
--
Dave
Confront and fight Obama zombieism


Yeah. What do you think this is, a discussion group or what?

Oh, it is?

Never mind.

I'd put it on railroad ties. Last a long time, easy to get, cheap. Is that
specific enough, Dave?

Steve



SteveB[_11_] 28-03-2009 04:25 AM

Base for garden shed?
 

"Dioclese" NONE wrote in message
...
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


You leave the reader wondering what the shsd base is made of, at the very
least. Further, you are simply expanding on that by asking a question
that may not have bearing if one had some limited knowledge of the shed
and soil and elevation it will set on itself. If you can't ask a specific
queston with specific information to base an answer on, butt out.
--
Dave
Confront and fight Obama zombieism


Who shit in your cornflakes?



Bill R 28-03-2009 05:14 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
SteveB wrote:

Who shit in your cornflakes?



It really doesn't matter what is asked or discussed here you will ALWAYS
find someone that dislikes what someone posts.

Overall, I find these groups almost useless with all the political (and
other) non-topic discussion and bashing that goes on. It would be nice
to get back to our "root" but, with the current crowd, I don't think
that will happen.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

"You are never to old to play in the dirt"

To see pictures from my garden visit http://members.iglou.com/brosen

Digital Camera - Pentax *ist DL

Remove NO_WEEDS_ in e-mail address to reply by e-mail

Granby 28-03-2009 07:45 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
"You are never to old to play in the dirt" I love this and will post it
over my potting table.

Has anyone used that mulch that is made out of rubber tires, like they use
on playgrounds? I wonder if it would get too hot in the summer, think it
would be good for wintering. Live in Ill. zone 5

"Bill R" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

Who shit in your cornflakes?


It really doesn't matter what is asked or discussed here you will ALWAYS
find someone that dislikes what someone posts.

Overall, I find these groups almost useless with all the political (and
other) non-topic discussion and bashing that goes on. It would be nice to
get back to our "root" but, with the current crowd, I don't think that
will happen.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

"You are never to old to play in the dirt"

To see pictures from my garden visit http://members.iglou.com/brosen

Digital Camera - Pentax *ist DL

Remove NO_WEEDS_ in e-mail address to reply by e-mail




Dioclese 29-03-2009 09:52 AM

Base for garden shed?
 
"Dioclese" NONE wrote in message
...
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
I have just ordered a 5ft x 3 ft pent shed with door on the longer side,
for my allotment.

But how to prepare base? I thinking of just whacking down a few runners?

Looked at loads of articles on google including :

http://www.secrets-of-shed-building....oundation.html

But maybe , this is all overkill ?

What do people with real practical experience think is best way to go?

Ed


You leave the reader wondering what the shsd base is made of, at the very
least. Further, you are simply expanding on that by asking a question
that may not have bearing if one had some limited knowledge of the shed
and soil and elevation it will set on itself. If you can't ask a specific
queston with specific information to base an answer on, butt out.
--
Dave
Confront and fight Obama zombieism


Maybe I should have said: Due to lack of information on the shed, soil, and
elevation details where the shed will be, I must bow out in providing a
suitable solution for your question.
--
Dave
Confront and fight Obama zombieism



CanopyCo 29-03-2009 04:22 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On Mar 28, 2:45*pm, "Granby" wrote:
"You are never to old to play in the dirt" *I love this and will post it
over my potting table.

Has anyone used that mulch that is made out of rubber tires, like they use
on playgrounds? *I wonder if it would get too hot in the summer, think it
would be good for wintering. *Live in Ill. zone 5


With mulch like that, how would you get it back up next spring so that
you can till the garden again?

If you plow it under, it will never rot and will just be trash in the
dirt.



Granby 29-03-2009 11:03 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
Sorry, I guess I was clear as mud. I plant in pots these days not too much
in the ground. I also put down a circle of the landscaping cloth type stuff
to help hold in the moisture and not to have to worry about any weeds. I
would use this mulch in the long flower boxes in front of the house that are
in sun most of the day, that is why the question about too much heat.
"CanopyCo" wrote in message
...
On Mar 28, 2:45 pm, "Granby" wrote:
"You are never to old to play in the dirt" I love this and will post it
over my potting table.

Has anyone used that mulch that is made out of rubber tires, like they use
on playgrounds? I wonder if it would get too hot in the summer, think it
would be good for wintering. Live in Ill. zone 5


With mulch like that, how would you get it back up next spring so that
you can till the garden again?

If you plow it under, it will never rot and will just be trash in the
dirt.




CanopyCo 30-03-2009 03:21 PM

Base for garden shed?
 
On Mar 29, 5:03*pm, "Granby" wrote:
Sorry, I guess I was clear as mud. *I plant in pots these days not too much
in the ground. *I also put down a circle of the landscaping cloth type stuff
to help hold in the moisture and not to have to worry about any weeds. *I
would use this mulch in the long flower boxes in front of the house that are
in sun most of the day, that is why the question about too much heat."CanopyCo" wrote in message

...
On Mar 28, 2:45 pm, "Granby" wrote:

"You are never to old to play in the dirt" I love this and will post it
over my potting table.


Has anyone used that mulch that is made out of rubber tires, like they use
on playgrounds? I wonder if it would get too hot in the summer, think it
would be good for wintering. Live in Ill. zone 5


With mulch like that, how would you get it back up next spring so that
you can till the garden again?

If you plow it under, it will never rot and will just be trash in the
dirt.


I got ya.
I have my head so far into my own garden that I completely forgot
about other methods.
:-/


Seen a deal called a salad table at
http://growit.umd.edu/
and may try that this year.

I’ve also been thinking about making a box for tomatoes.
Depends on if I can find enough wood around for that one.
At least this year I can start on the cedar limb cadge that would
eventually go on top of the box.



Frederick Williams[_2_] 30-10-2009 11:40 AM

Base for garden shed?
 
mark wrote:

You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.


What's the purpose of that?

--
Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.

Pete C[_2_] 30-10-2009 07:52 PM

Base for garden shed?
 


Frederick Williams wrote:
mark wrote:

You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.


What's the purpose of that?

Don't know the original post, but the underside of my shed floor is covered
in very heavy duty polythene to prevent rising damp. I guess roof felt would
do the same? :)
--
Buy a poppy....help a serviceman
Pete C
London UK



mark 30-10-2009 08:09 PM

Base for garden shed?
 

"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Frederick Williams wrote:
mark wrote:

You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.


What's the purpose of that?

Don't know the original post, but the underside of my shed floor is
covered in very heavy duty polythene to prevent rising damp. I guess roof
felt would do the same? :)
--



That was yonks ago! I would imagine the shed has long been built.

Yes, to stop rising damp getting to the wooden bearers.

mark



Frederick Williams[_2_] 31-10-2009 08:18 AM

Base for garden shed?
 
mark wrote:

"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Frederick Williams wrote:
mark wrote:

You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.

What's the purpose of that?

Don't know the original post, but the underside of my shed floor is
covered in very heavy duty polythene to prevent rising damp. I guess roof
felt would do the same? :)
--


That was yonks ago!


I'm a slow reader.

--
Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.

Bill Grey 01-11-2009 08:42 AM

Base for garden shed?
 

"Frederick Williams" wrote in message
...
mark wrote:

You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.


What's the purpose of that?

--
Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.


Not really necessary if the floor runners are tanalised timber, but have a
look at this aynway:-

http://www.homebase.co.uk/wcsstore/h...erect_shed.pdf

Quite a comprehensive set of instructions for you.

Bill



Frederick Williams[_2_] 01-11-2009 10:03 AM

Base for garden shed?
 
Bill Grey wrote:

"Frederick Williams" wrote in message
...
mark wrote:

You might like to put a piece of roof felt between block and bearer.


What's the purpose of that?

--
Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.


Not really necessary if the floor runners are tanalised timber, but have a
look at this aynway:-

http://www.homebase.co.uk/wcsstore/h...erect_shed.pdf

Quite a comprehensive set of instructions for you.


Thank you. I had to look up 'tanalised'.

--
Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.


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