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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Gary Woods" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

If you are paid wages to serve the food on the plate and to place that
plate
in front of the cusomer then that is what you are paid wages to do.

In the U.S. the minimum wage for servers is lower than for other workers,
and the tax folk assume you get tips.

That is immoral on a number of counts.

Like it or not, that's the custom,

Yes. So why doesn't anyone think about the custom and start to question why
it is that way?

Or are you just happy to continue to blame the customers for being cheap
rather than the employers who arent' prepared to pay a decent wage?

and anybody who doesn't tip at all for normal service is a cheap *******,
who will likely get all sorts of festive additives to his food if he comes
back.

Yes that point has already been made by Charlie.

The point that I am making and which continually seems to be overlooked is
that your workers are being screwed. The US needs a Labor Day rather than a
Libery Day or are you all just happy to sit back and continue to be screwed
forever?

A little Vaseline (not too much sand, like the old days) and being told
that we are number one (Spend half of the worlds war money on weapons,
WORLD"S money, not just our enemies[ the guys that don't roll over] but
half the WORLD'S M-O-N-E-Y. We are the largest thing in conservative
governments since the Third Reich. Over the top? Wars are continuing,
Presidential ability to withhold information continues, the transfer of
wealth to the rich continues, grinding debt on those who were encouraged
(by Shrub:
http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_...ge-w-bush-c.ht
ml ) to take a chance and buy a house. Torture is not forbidden,
continued detention, with no charges continues. Eavesdropping on
citizens continues.

We are given a lollypop and the pillage continues. HELLO!
On the sane (mine-not my environment's) side of gardening.
I broadcast some more onion seeds into the combo onion patch.
Adjusted paving stones in garden and seeded between the stones with
clover. Did a bit of pruning, and checked under clear plastic lids to
see if seedlings needed water (checked the troops). Hopefully, I'll get
my terracing done tomorrow and the pepper patch, mulched.
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- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

Billy wrote in

t.au:

We are given a lollypop and the pillage continues. HELLO!

Billy, he's had just over 3 *months* and the Republicans in Congress
are fighting him tooth & nail. what the hell do you think *anyone*
can get done in 3 months, especially considering the plate of manure
he was handed (2 useless, unwinnable wars, an economy in the tank,
and a really greedy Congress with both parties in bed with whoever
pays most- big Ag, big Pharma, etc).
give the guy some working room will you. he's not the Wizard of Oz.
lee

In article ,
enigma wrote:

Billy wrote in

t.au:

We are given a lollypop and the pillage continues. HELLO!

Billy, he's had just over 3 *months* and the Republicans in Congress
are fighting him tooth & nail. what the hell do you think *anyone*
can get done in 3 months, especially considering the plate of manure
he was handed (2 useless, unwinnable wars, an economy in the tank,
and a really greedy Congress with both parties in bed with whoever
pays most- big Ag, big Pharma, etc).
give the guy some working room will you. he's not the Wizard of Oz.
lee

He could decline Presidential Privilege. He made torture illegal for the
Army. He could have done the same thing to the C.I.A. He could allow,
not encourage, allow a legal review of the previous administration
actions. We have stopped paying the Sunni militias to stand down (just
in time for the elections) and violence is on the rise again in Iraq.
Afghanistan is a nightmare that is just starting to unfold. Every
innocent person that our troops, or "drones", kill gives rise to more
people who want vengeance against the western powers. Obama said that he
would bring the wars to an end and now we are positioned to have 50,000
combat troops in Iraq indefinitely (no mention of the 150,000
mercenaries that we have there) and he is ramping up the war in
Afghanistan.

If we wanted peace, we could have it on the cheap (comparatively) by not
involving ourselves in Iraqi politics (but then, they are our own,
aren't they?) and just build water treatment plants, and power
generation stations (infrastructure). Then we would be seen as a
liberators and not occupiers. We had a chance to say that the errors of
the past, died with the last administration. If we continue the errors,
suppression of oil producing countries (and countries where we want to
place oil pipelines) will be seen as a "set" element of American foreign
policy.

We have a chance for a new beginning, people want to think that Obama is
a good man. We are "offered" intelligent, thoughtful changes in energy
production to improved relations with Cuba, just about everything except
for the pillaging of the national wealth and reputation. Instead of a
government of, by and for the people, the government seems poised to
suppress dissent.
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- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html