In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
enigma wrote:

Billy wrote in

u:

Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have an articulate and
intelligent person at the helm of state again, but for all the
populist talk, it doesn't look like our course is changing.

if you think *anyone* can change 8 years of regression is 6 months,
you must have thought you elected Superman. you are being unfair &
totally unrealistic.
also, a President can *suggest* laws and policy, but Congress has to
write it & pass it. Pelosi is obfusicating & dithering. she's a DINO,
a Bush flunkie in a Democrat wrapper. i believe she's from your
state, so you really should work at getting someone with a brain into
her office, instead of blaming the president for the branch of
government he doesn't control.
lee
Believe it or not, Pelosi represents San Francisco, and I agree
completely with your characterization of her. Same with one of our
Senators, Diane Feinstein, whose husband has made a fortune from Bush's
Vanity Wars
http://twincities.indymedia.org/2009...der-trader-dia
nne-feinstein-resigns-comm-under-cloud
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../13/BUGIJ5JL7E
1.DTL&type=printable


But Obama is commander in chief. He can't end the war, rendition, or
torture?
He can't call for the reinstatement of Glass/Steagal?
He can't call for the reinstatement if the FISA Courts as they were
before Bush?
Many Democrats were elected into office on his coat-tails, they would do
well to listen to his call. He was elected on the basis of change.
Where's the beef?

Poll: 2/3 Americans Support Investigating Bush Crimes
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/13/headlines#3

We are now 8 mo. into the Obama Administration and what do we see? Big
Pharma, and health insurance providers will make more money from the
universal health care bill, because of back room deals.

The Health Insurers Have Already Won
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...3034820260.htm

³You Do Not Cut Deals with the System that Has to Be Replaced²: Ralph
Nader on Secret White House Agreements with the Drug Industry
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/1...deals_with_the

There seems to be no end to guaranteed $1M bonuses for bailed out
companies,
and the wars continue . . .
http://www.reuters.com/article/ameri.../idUSN07411579
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/am...136461692.html

Nobody that is going to be the nominee of the Republican or the
Democratic Party, is going to bring change. Those parties have been
preempted by the plutocrats to insure a stable "kleptocracy".

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Philo...s/Patterns_of_
Social_and_Political_Interaction

I'm getting a head ache. A good sign I guess.

Bill

Nature's natural defense to politics ;O)
Feeling kinda sad that the gardening is about over. Everything is in
place and doing whatever it is gonna do. Not much for the gardener to do
now, but water and wait to do clean up.
--
Racial injustice, war, urban blight, and environmental rape have a common denominator in our exploitative economic system.*
~Channing E. Phillips

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

What is the color of the sky on your planet? The Mexican/US connection of
firearms has been debunked for months, the gunshow crap is just that, and
the mass murders? More die on the highways.

Nice spin there, tho.

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 3:40 pm, Bill who putters wrote:
Sort of thought of this land is my land this land is your land.

Tragic.

Guess from Salon.

......................
Ohio man who killed lawn walker commits suicide

Aug 8th, 2009 | LEBANON, Ohio -- An Ohio man convicted of killing his
15-year-old neighbor because he walked on the man's well-kept lawn has
committed suicide in prison.

Ohio prison officials say 69-year-old Charles Martin killed himself
Friday at the Lebanon Correctional Institution in southwest Ohio.

The Department of Rehabilitation and Correction did not say how Martin
died. He had been sentenced to serve 18 years in prison before he could
be considered for parole.

Martin had pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to shooting Larry
Mugrage Jr. to death with a shotgun in March 2006. Jurors rejected that
argument and convicted him.

At sentencing, Martin said he was sorry the shooting occurred. But he
said the teenager knew how much he cared for his lawn and provoked him.

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

But heaven forbid the govt should try to control, e.g. those gun
shows where any maniac can buy AK47s and similar war weapons. Our
pussy govt. just had to admit that the devastating Mexican border wars
going on right now acquire most of their weapons from the good old
U.S.A. Every day there's another report of some nut walking into a
store or temple or other public venue and spraying
the place with bullets, murdering innocent people. Dunno - who are we
to preach to the world about
terrorism???

In article pplyinc,
"D. Staples" wrote:

What is the color of the sky on your planet? The Mexican/US connection of
firearms has been debunked for months, the gunshow crap is just that, and
the mass murders? More die on the highways.

Nice spin there, tho.

Red Guitars 5:22 Erik Wøllo Blue Sky, Red Guitars New Age AAC
audio file 100 45 8/9/09 5:37 PM 2004

Good to spin on your hard drive.

Bill who wonders why the death of a 15 year old and a suicide illicits
no compassion. Guess not one of yours.

--

Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article pplyinc,
"D. Staples" wrote:

What is the color of the sky on your planet? The Mexican/US connection of
firearms has been debunked for months, the gunshow crap is just that, and
the mass murders? More die on the highways.

Nice spin there, tho.

Red Guitars 5:22 Erik Wøllo Blue Sky, Red Guitars New Age AAC
audio file 100 45 8/9/09 5:37 PM 2004

Good to spin on your hard drive.

Bill who wonders why the death of a 15 year old and a suicide illicits
no compassion. Guess not one of yours.

D. Staples calls himself a forester, and clear cutting, "restoration".
--
Racial injustice, war, urban blight, and environmental rape have a common denominator in our exploitative economic system.*
~Channing E. Phillips

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm