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"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
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Don't reply to spam, you twit!


I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.


Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML environment
of newsgroups?


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In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!


I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.


Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML environment
of newsgroups?


The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However, it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids, spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP is
just simply nuts.

However, the person who posted the phase "Don't reply to spam, you
twit!", be a twit themselves for posting a message to this spammer?

I could not resist that last statement

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Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:19 PM posted to rec.gardens
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"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.


Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?


The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However, it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids, spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP is
just simply nuts.


I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy level of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup which does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to enable
spying?

However, the person who posted the phase "Don't reply to spam, you
twit!", be a twit themselves for posting a message to this spammer?


Why would you think I was sending a message to the spammer?

I could not resist that last statement


I noticed.


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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.

Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?


The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have
spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message
looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However, it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids,
spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP is
just simply nuts.


I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy level
of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup which
does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to enable

spying?


There are many ways to hide a message in a message. Let's see, choose
every fourth letter, choose every other words second letter in a
message. There are word substitutes. There are methods called "one time
stamps" in which the receiver has a code sheet that can decipher the
message. Many ways for plain text and even in HTML for cryptic messages
can be sent back and forth in a public forum. They are programs that can
easily strip the HTML out of a message. Text would be the easiest for
simple paper and pencil encryption for sending simple messages across
great distances.

Now if you want to encrypt data files instead of messages they can use
the binary section of newsgroups and embed them in videos. For further
study this book may be for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Crypto...ref=pd_sim_b_1

I personally have no great interest in this field of study. My field of
study is computer science in general. For designing a web site that uses
personal information, some knowledge of encryption is needed.

If this does not answer your question, I am not sure I can answer it.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
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Old 09-12-2010, 12:32 AM posted to rec.gardens
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In article ,
Dan L wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.

Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?

The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have
spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message
looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However, it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids,
spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP is
just simply nuts.


I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy level
of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup which
does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to enable

spying?


There are many ways to hide a message in a message. Let's see, choose
every fourth letter, choose every other words second letter in a
message. There are word substitutes. There are methods called "one time
stamps" in which the receiver has a code sheet that can decipher the
message. Many ways for plain text and even in HTML for cryptic messages
can be sent back and forth in a public forum. They are programs that can
easily strip the HTML out of a message. Text would be the easiest for
simple paper and pencil encryption for sending simple messages across
great distances.

Now if you want to encrypt data files instead of messages they can use
the binary section of newsgroups and embed them in videos. For further
study this book may be for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Crypto...Source/dp/0471
117099/ref=pd_sim_b_1

I personally have no great interest in this field of study. My field of
study is computer science in general. For designing a web site that uses
personal information, some knowledge of encryption is needed.

If this does not answer your question, I am not sure I can answer it.


The operative part, that you over looked is "cryptic messages embedded
to enable spying?" cryptic messages = computer code.

So the question becomes, "I asked if you could explain how a post to a
newsgroup which does not support HTML could contain any embedded code to
enable spying?"
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug


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Old 09-12-2010, 12:44 AM posted to rec.gardens
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"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.

Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?

The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have
spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message
looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However, it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids,
spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP is
just simply nuts.

I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy level
of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup which
does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to enable

spying?


There are many ways to hide a message in a message. Let's see, choose
every fourth letter, choose every other words second letter in a
message. There are word substitutes. There are methods called "one time
stamps" in which the receiver has a code sheet that can decipher the
message. Many ways for plain text and even in HTML for cryptic messages
can be sent back and forth in a public forum. They are programs that can
easily strip the HTML out of a message. Text would be the easiest for
simple paper and pencil encryption for sending simple messages across
great distances.

Now if you want to encrypt data files instead of messages they can use
the binary section of newsgroups and embed them in videos. For further
study this book may be for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Crypto...Source/dp/0471
117099/ref=pd_sim_b_1

I personally have no great interest in this field of study. My field of
study is computer science in general. For designing a web site that uses
personal information, some knowledge of encryption is needed.

If this does not answer your question, I am not sure I can answer it.


The operative part, that you over looked is "cryptic messages embedded
to enable spying?" cryptic messages = computer code.

So the question becomes, "I asked if you could explain how a post to a
newsgroup which does not support HTML could contain any embedded code to
enable spying?"


Ah Billy! You got it again! You are such a delight. Thank you for paying
attention.


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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.

Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?

The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have
spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message
looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However,
it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids,
spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP
is
just simply nuts.

I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy
level
of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup
which
does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to
enable

spying?


There are many ways to hide a message in a message. Let's see,
choose
every fourth letter, choose every other words second letter in a
message. There are word substitutes. There are methods called "one
time
stamps" in which the receiver has a code sheet that can decipher the
message. Many ways for plain text and even in HTML for cryptic
messages
can be sent back and forth in a public forum. They are programs that
can
easily strip the HTML out of a message. Text would be the easiest
for
simple paper and pencil encryption for sending simple messages
across
great distances.

Now if you want to encrypt data files instead of messages they can
use
the binary section of newsgroups and embed them in videos. For
further
study this book may be for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Crypto...Source/dp/0471
117099/ref=pd_sim_b_1

I personally have no great interest in this field of study. My field
of
study is computer science in general. For designing a web site that
uses
personal information, some knowledge of encryption is needed.

If this does not answer your question, I am not sure I can answer
it.


The operative part, that you over looked is "cryptic messages
embedded
to enable spying?" cryptic messages = computer code.

So the question becomes, "I asked if you could explain how a post to
a
newsgroup which does not support HTML could contain any embedded code
to
enable spying?"


Ah Billy! You got it again! You are such a delight. Thank you for
paying
attention.


He did not get again!
He made an assumption based on a false premise.

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In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.

Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?

The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have
spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message
looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However, it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids,
spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP is
just simply nuts.

I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy level
of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup which
does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to enable

spying?


There are many ways to hide a message in a message. Let's see, choose
every fourth letter, choose every other words second letter in a
message. There are word substitutes. There are methods called "one time
stamps" in which the receiver has a code sheet that can decipher the
message. Many ways for plain text and even in HTML for cryptic messages
can be sent back and forth in a public forum. They are programs that can
easily strip the HTML out of a message. Text would be the easiest for
simple paper and pencil encryption for sending simple messages across
great distances.

Now if you want to encrypt data files instead of messages they can use
the binary section of newsgroups and embed them in videos. For further
study this book may be for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Crypto...ms-Source/dp/0
471
117099/ref=pd_sim_b_1

I personally have no great interest in this field of study. My field of
study is computer science in general. For designing a web site that uses
personal information, some knowledge of encryption is needed.

If this does not answer your question, I am not sure I can answer it.


The operative part, that you over looked is "cryptic messages embedded
to enable spying?" cryptic messages = computer code.

So the question becomes, "I asked if you could explain how a post to a
newsgroup which does not support HTML could contain any embedded code to
enable spying?"


Ah Billy! You got it again! You are such a delight. Thank you for paying
attention.


You made it easy by writing in English ;O)
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
Dan L wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.

Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?

The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have
spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message
looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However,
it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids,
spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP
is
just simply nuts.

I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy level
of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup
which
does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to
enable

spying?


There are many ways to hide a message in a message. Let's see, choose
every fourth letter, choose every other words second letter in a
message. There are word substitutes. There are methods called "one
time
stamps" in which the receiver has a code sheet that can decipher the
message. Many ways for plain text and even in HTML for cryptic
messages
can be sent back and forth in a public forum. They are programs that
can
easily strip the HTML out of a message. Text would be the easiest for
simple paper and pencil encryption for sending simple messages across
great distances.

Now if you want to encrypt data files instead of messages they can
use
the binary section of newsgroups and embed them in videos. For
further
study this book may be for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Crypto...Source/dp/0471
117099/ref=pd_sim_b_1

I personally have no great interest in this field of study. My field
of
study is computer science in general. For designing a web site that
uses
personal information, some knowledge of encryption is needed.

If this does not answer your question, I am not sure I can answer it.


The operative part, that you over looked is "cryptic messages embedded

to enable spying?" cryptic messages = computer code.


"cryptic messages = computer code" ... not a true statement.
Cryptic messages are not always computer code.

So the question becomes, "I asked if you could explain how a post to a

newsgroup which does not support HTML could contain any embedded code
to
enable spying?"


One could put computer code in the headers and footers. Some do
software companies all ready provide encryption software like:
http://www.pgp.com/

But that would be obvious to have your entire posting to be non readable
in a public forum. However, I was never thinking in terms of computer
code embedded in messages of the original posting. It just looked like
an odd lengthy posting which would be a perfect place to embed a hidden
message.

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In article ,
Dan L wrote:

However, I was never thinking in terms of computer
code embedded in messages of the original posting. It just looked like
an odd lengthy posting which would be a perfect place to embed a hidden
message.


??????????!
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug


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"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"TheCountryGent" wrote in message
...

(snip)

Don't reply to spam, you twit!

I don't think it is spam in a way...

The "Pathetic" messages are cross posted on many newsgroups.
My guess there are cryptic messages embedded in them for spying.

Would you care to try to explain who that works in the non HTML
environment
of newsgroups?

The original post at first, just looks like a flame war going on.
However, There are too many misspelled words. Most computers have
spell
checkers. Extra spacing in words that are not needed. The message
looks
as if it was written by someone that is not intelligent. However, it
takes some knowledge to know how to use computers. Could be kids,
spies,
governments who knows. It is my guess and I could be wrong and OP is
just simply nuts.


I didn't ask for your assessment of the education and literacy level
of the
spammer. I asked if you could explain how a post to a newsgroup which
does
not support HTML could contain any cryptic messages embedded to enable

spying?


There are many ways to hide a message in a message. Let's see, choose
every fourth letter, choose every other words second letter in a
message. There are word substitutes. There are methods called "one time
stamps" in which the receiver has a code sheet that can decipher the
message. Many ways for plain text and even in HTML for cryptic messages
can be sent back and forth in a public forum. They are programs that can
easily strip the HTML out of a message. Text would be the easiest for
simple paper and pencil encryption for sending simple messages across
great distances.


Thank you Dan, that answers it beautifully. You're saying that the spammer
is using coded messages out in his spam.

Now if you want to encrypt data files instead of messages they can use
the binary section of newsgroups and embed them in videos.


Most newsgroups that spammer sends to don't do binary so that is why I was
asking for an explanation as to how posts could contain embeded messages for
spying.

For further
study this book may be for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Crypto...ref=pd_sim_b_1

I personally have no great interest in this field of study. My field of
study is computer science in general. For designing a web site that uses
personal information, some knowledge of encryption is needed.

If this does not answer your question, I am not sure I can answer it.



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