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Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
On 01/03/2011 01:14 PM, EVP MAN wrote:
Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! You need to take pictures and go to a lawyer and see what they say. You might have a case for him to start cleaning things up and move his landscape timbers back to his side. You might have the legal right to trim his bushes that hang on your side. What state do you live in? My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich -- "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." ~Winston Churchill “Islam is the crack cocaine of religion” ~John Bodart On September 11, 2010 Muslims in England were burning American flags and calling for the overthrow of the United States. They call Islam a Religion of Peace, but it's more like a Religion Of Psychos. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
On 1/3/2011 2:14 PM, EVP MAN wrote:
Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich I'd consider myself free to cut anything that hangs over the property line at any time I desire and anything that crosses the line belongs to me. Try to assert your rights without fighting with him and sometime it's best to sic the authorities on them without getting involved. He may be violating local ordinances by having an overgrown yard. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
I live in Pennsylvania. This neighbor is the type of guy that seems to feel that he can do as he pleases when it comes to others BUT he will be the first to tell you or complain if he feels you are doing something against him. It's like: I can step on your toes but don't you dare step on mine! Even if I could, it would cost me a small fortune to hire a tree trimmer to take the limbs off of all his huge trees that overhang my property. This is why I said about planting some cherry trees near his clothes lines. It would sure give me some bargaining power :) Rich |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
On Jan 3, 4:31*pm, (EVP MAN) wrote:
I live in Pennsylvania. *This neighbor is the type of guy that seems to feel that he can do as he pleases when it comes to others BUT he will be the first to tell you or complain if he feels you are doing something against him. *It's like: *I can step on your toes but don't you dare step on mine! *Even if I could, *it would cost me a small fortune to hire a tree trimmer to take the limbs off of all his huge trees that overhang my property. *This is why I said about planting some cherry trees near his clothes lines. *It would sure give me some bargaining power :) Rich No it probably wouldn't from a growing standpoint. His established Jungle wouldn't give your Cherries a chance. If your gutters are damaged call your homeowners insurance office. MJ |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
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Frank wrote: On 1/3/2011 2:14 PM, EVP MAN wrote: Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich I'd consider myself free to cut anything that hangs over the property line at any time I desire and anything that crosses the line belongs to me. Try to assert your rights without fighting with him and sometime it's best to sic the authorities on them without getting involved. He may be violating local ordinances by having an overgrown yard. Tell your neighbor that he has encroached onto your property, and you would appreciate it he returned his "landscape timbers (?)" to his property, or you'll be forced to have a surveyor mark the property line. Of course this will cost you money, so you will need to go to small claims for reimbursement, for this and any other costs that negotiation may require, like court costs. As Frank said, don't get involved, just feed him to the authorities. If these "landscape timbers (?)" are allowed to remain, he may be entitled to claim that section of your property for himself. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph p |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
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Mysterious Traveler wrote: On 01/03/2011 01:14 PM, EVP MAN wrote: Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! You need to take pictures and go to a lawyer and see what they say. Again, advise him, in advance, that you will hold him responsible for lawyer fees, court costs, and remediation. You might have a case for him to start cleaning things up and move his landscape timbers back to his side. You might have the legal right to trim his bushes that hang on your side. What state do you live in? My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph p |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
"EVP MAN" wrote in message ... Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich Why don't you just prune the growth that crosses over your property line like the rest of the world? Jeez! Hire lawyers! Hire a surveyor! Spend money! Fight! Go on Jerry Springer, why don't you? |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
"Pico Rico" wrote:
"EVP MAN" wrote in message ... Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich Why don't you just prune the growth that crosses over your property line like the rest of the world? Jeez! Hire lawyers! Hire a surveyor! Spend money! Fight! Go on Jerry Springer, why don't you? Move out of the Jungle and move to the Country. A home in the boondocks with a dozen acres cost about the same as a home in the city with a lot. Taxes will be less but you will pay more for gasoline. Propane cost more than Natural gas. For the gardener, life is better in the country. -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:02:39 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote: "Pico Rico" wrote: "EVP MAN" wrote in message ... Living right in the middle of town, most of the neighbors are respectful of one another. That is all except the neighbor who's property joins mine to the east. He has huge trees that hang way over the boundary and the leaves block up the down spouts on my rain gutters. He has all kinds of bushes planted right up against the line also. They hang over on my side so far that it's really hard to mow my lawn. Looks like one solid mass or a jungle as I call it. You have to try and duck under them or get slapped in the face or even worse, stuck with briars while mowing. If you say anything to him about trimming them, he says: not the right time of the year to trim that bush! Or, these trees and bushes were planted long before you bought your house! He did help out a bit with the problem. He moved his landscape timbers about 6" over the line onto my side so his jungle don't appear to hang over quite as far. I thought that was rather nice of him......Grrrrrrr! My small lot is only 1/5 acre. His property is 1 acre. I don't have one single plant on that boundary at all so he can't complain I'm doing the same thing! He does have a long stretch of clothes line on his side about 8 foot away from the line that his wife uses a couple times a week to dry clothes. Perhaps I will plant about 3 trees or so very close to the border. Cherry trees! Does this sound like a plan or what? LOL Rich Why don't you just prune the growth that crosses over your property line like the rest of the world? Jeez! Hire lawyers! Hire a surveyor! Spend money! Fight! Go on Jerry Springer, why don't you? Move out of the Jungle and move to the Country. A home in the boondocks with a dozen acres cost about the same as a home in the city with a lot. Taxes will be less but you will pay more for gasoline. Propane cost more than Natural gas. For the gardener, life is better in the country. A jug of RoundUp... problem solved. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Nad)
The thing is Nad, we like our house and I shouldn't have to move just because of one disrespectful neighbor. Our property line is very clear as it was surveyed and the survey stakes are at each corner. Stretch a line from stake to stake and both myself and the neighbor know where the line is. Yes, I could cut all the bushes that hang over on my side but then it would be up to me to get rid of all the brush which isn't easy living in town and driving a sub compact car. This neighbor has a pickup truck! The point is, I wouldn't do this to him or any other of my neighbors and I don't like it being done to me. I don't care at all what he has planted so long as it remains on his side. I shouldn't have to waste my time or money in any way to solve this problem. And YES, I have plenty of room to plant the cherry trees and I'm sure the birds will have good enough aim to hit the wash on his clothes line! He don't like to use the clothes dryer because he told me it's too expensive to run. The guy saves anything he can get for free. Old busted up plastic flower containers, broken bricks, you name it and he saves it. He is 20 years older than me and I'm 62 so maybe it won't go on too much longer. We lived in our home for 15 years now and he lived in his for 50 years. Perhaps that is why he thinks he owns the neighborhood! Rich |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Nad)
I see, except for one thing. Not just saving money, the outside clothes
line does a better job drying clothes on nice warm sunny days. Cherry trees are good also. Perhaps then recommend to your neighbor to move to the country. Pickup trucks are a necessity in the country. -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
EVP MAN wrote:
I live in Pennsylvania. This neighbor is the type of guy that seems to feel that he can do as he pleases when it comes to others BUT he will be the first to tell you or complain if he feels you are doing something against him. It's like: I can step on your toes but don't you dare step on mine! Even if I could, it would cost me a small fortune to hire a tree trimmer to take the limbs off of all his huge trees that overhang my property. This is why I said about planting some cherry trees near his clothes lines. It would sure give me some bargaining power :) That's really a great idea. In about 15 years they will start to bother him, and you will really be able to put the pressure on. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
Brooklyn1 wrote:
A jug of RoundUp... problem solved. I had an old neighbor who did that to his neighbor. A tree sprayer asked the victom what happened to the shrubs, and notified the state EPA, who came out and tested the shrubs, then had a talk with the old man. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Nad)
EVP MAN wrote:
The thing is Nad, we like our house and I shouldn't have to move just because of one disrespectful neighbor. Our property line is very clear as it was surveyed and the survey stakes are at each corner. Stretch a line from stake to stake and both myself and the neighbor know where the line is. Yes, I could cut all the bushes that hang over on my side but then it would be up to me to get rid of all the brush which isn't easy living in town and driving a sub compact car. This neighbor has a pickup truck! The point is, I wouldn't do this to him or any other of my neighbors and I don't like it being done to me. I don't care at all what he has planted so long as it remains on his side. I shouldn't have to waste my time or money in any way to solve this problem. Too bad, but what grows onto your side is your problem, and it is your right to deal with it. You can cut off anything growing across the property line unless doing so will substantially damage the plants. A good neighbor might worry about your side, and help out. Too bad you don't have one. I do prune back a hedge I planted on one side of my house from the neighbor's side every few years. It's just the right thing to do. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Nad)
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(EVP MAN) wrote: The thing is Nad, we like our house and I shouldn't have to move just because of one disrespectful neighbor. Our property line is very clear as it was surveyed and the survey stakes are at each corner. Stretch a line from stake to stake and both myself and the neighbor know where the line is. Yes, I could cut all the bushes that hang over on my side but then it would be up to me to get rid of all the brush which isn't easy living in town and driving a sub compact car. This neighbor has a pickup truck! The point is, I wouldn't do this to him or any other of my neighbors and I don't like it being done to me. I don't care at all what he has planted so long as it remains on his side. I shouldn't have to waste my time or money in any way to solve this problem. And YES, I have plenty of room to plant the cherry trees and I'm sure the birds will have good enough aim to hit the wash on his clothes line! He don't like to use the clothes dryer because he told me it's too expensive to run. The guy saves anything he can get for free. Old busted up plastic flower containers, broken bricks, you name it and he saves it. He is 20 years older than me and I'm 62 so maybe it won't go on too much longer. We lived in our home for 15 years now and he lived in his for 50 years. Perhaps that is why he thinks he owns the neighborhood! Rich If he is 20 years older than you, he is on a fixed income. Give him a chance to keep it by giving him the chance to clean up his mess. If you don't want to do what needs to be done, then shut up. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph p |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Nad)
On 1/4/2011 12:53 AM, Billy wrote:
In , (EVP MAN) wrote: The thing is Nad, we like our house and I shouldn't have to move just because of one disrespectful neighbor. Our property line is very clear as it was surveyed and the survey stakes are at each corner. Stretch a line from stake to stake and both myself and the neighbor know where the line is. Yes, I could cut all the bushes that hang over on my side but then it would be up to me to get rid of all the brush which isn't easy living in town and driving a sub compact car. This neighbor has a pickup truck! The point is, I wouldn't do this to him or any other of my neighbors and I don't like it being done to me. I don't care at all what he has planted so long as it remains on his side. I shouldn't have to waste my time or money in any way to solve this problem. And YES, I have plenty of room to plant the cherry trees and I'm sure the birds will have good enough aim to hit the wash on his clothes line! He don't like to use the clothes dryer because he told me it's too expensive to run. The guy saves anything he can get for free. Old busted up plastic flower containers, broken bricks, you name it and he saves it. He is 20 years older than me and I'm 62 so maybe it won't go on too much longer. We lived in our home for 15 years now and he lived in his for 50 years. Perhaps that is why he thinks he owns the neighborhood! Rich If he is 20 years older than you, he is on a fixed income. Give him a chance to keep it by giving him the chance to clean up his mess. If you don't want to do what needs to be done, then shut up. I agree now that the situation is further clarified. Someone in their 80's does not have the physical capabilities of someone in their 60's and may be a little dingy to boot so allowances should be made. This situation did not develop overnight and the op should have attacked it in the beginning by trimming when overhang started and had not grown into a jungle. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
Well Billy, as far as income goes, I 'm also on a fixed income as I'm retired and living on social security. He is much better off than myself money wise. His home is a big duplex with a rental unit, he has all kinds of investments, social security, big pension from where he worked plus paid medical insurance from that employer also. I have SS and that's it. He's in much better health also. I have asthma, heart problems and can only walk for a few minutes before sitting down awhile. This is why I took up gardening. It's something I can do here at home at my own pace. I can no longer hunt or fish which I loved to do. Think I'll just cut his jungle off that over hangs my side and throw the debris over on his side for him to deal with. ............... Rich |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:36:31 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: A jug of RoundUp... problem solved. I had an old neighbor who did that to his neighbor. A tree sprayer asked the victom what happened to the shrubs, and notified the state EPA, who came out and tested the shrubs, then had a talk with the old man. Do you honestly think anyone believes your just now made up fairytale, were it true you'd have offered it way upthread... why do so many on usenet have to behave like they're still acting out their drunken one upmanship BS like when they're still sucking down cheap suds at their favorite watering hole. Btw, the EPA is Federal: http://epa.gov/ Homeowners have a right to eliminate whatever grows over their property line, unless restricted by laws governing wetlands, etc. This is a perfect case of wussiness, the OP had a spine, after requesting cooperation from the neighbor and being greeted with hardnosed refusal, he'd be out there trimming the offending growth and tossing it whence it came, the neighbor's side. Every municipality in the US has laws governing property line encroachment and set backs... the information for each particular community is very likely on line (county by county and state by state) and certainly available at the town clerk's office. Everywhere I've ever lived one could not legally plant anything or erect any structure (including fences) within so many feet of the property lines. However people ignore property line laws (same as all laws) all the time but that in no way alters neighbor's rights. Many times neighbors agree to erect a fence or grow a hedge right on the property line and that works so long as one or the other doesn't sell. In this present case I'm positive that the answer to the over growth question is readily available for free by a simple phone call to the town clerk/town attorney. A homeowner would be embarassed to ask such a question in public, makes me doubt the OP is the property owner, more a question posed by a tenant. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:17:36 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:36:31 -0800, "Bob F" wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: A jug of RoundUp... problem solved. I had an old neighbor who did that to his neighbor. A tree sprayer asked the victom what happened to the shrubs, and notified the state EPA, who came out and tested the shrubs, then had a talk with the old man. Do you honestly think anyone believes your just now made up fairytale, were it true you'd have offered it way upthread... why do so many on usenet have to behave like they're still acting out their drunken one upmanship BS like when they're still sucking down cheap suds at their favorite watering hole. Btw, the EPA is Federal: http://epa.gov/ Not defending the fairytale, but there are state epa's http://www.calepa.ca.gov/ |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
"Brooklyn1" Gravesend1 wrote in message
... On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:36:31 -0800, "Bob F" wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: A jug of RoundUp... problem solved. I had an old neighbor who did that to his neighbor. A tree sprayer asked the victom what happened to the shrubs, and notified the state EPA, who came out and tested the shrubs, then had a talk with the old man. Do you honestly think anyone believes your just now made up fairytale, were it true you'd have offered it way upthread... why do so many on usenet have to behave like they're still acting out their drunken one upmanship BS like when they're still sucking down cheap suds at their favorite watering hole. Btw, the EPA is Federal: http://epa.gov/ Why do you accuse him of lieing or of being a boozer? I don't see a problem with anything he says. I've heard a story about someone poisoning a neighbour's trees and then getting into trouble for it but there was no point in my mentioning it since I don't live in the US and your laws might be different. But there are at least one example of someone getting in trouble for poisoning a tree in the US: http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=77800 Homeowners have a right to eliminate whatever grows over their property line, unless restricted by laws governing wetlands, etc. Well there's a difference. Here anyone would be in deep doodoo if they poisoned the roots of a neighbour's tree and killed the tree if those roots were the only part of the tree that was on their land. This is a perfect case of wussiness, the OP had a spine, after requesting cooperation from the neighbor and being greeted with hardnosed refusal, he'd be out there trimming the offending growth and tossing it whence it came, the neighbor's side. There's another difference. The trees could be trimmed right to the fence line but not an inch further but the trimmings could not be tossed back on the neighbour's side without agreement form the neighbour. Where there are tree preservation orders the pruning may not even be allowed to be done, or if it is, it may need to be done by an arborist to ensure it's done properly. Every municipality in the US has laws governing property line encroachment and set backs... the information for each particular community is very likely on line (county by county and state by state) and certainly available at the town clerk's office. Everywhere I've ever lived one could not legally plant anything or erect any structure (including fences) within so many feet of the property lines. There's another difference. Plants aren't structures and so there is no restriction on where they can be planted on one's own property and if a tree grows so that it's trucnk is on the boundary line, it becomes a joint responsibility regardless of who planted it. However people ignore property line laws (same as all laws) all the time but that in no way alters neighbor's rights. Many times neighbors agree to erect a fence or grow a hedge right on the property line and that works so long as one or the other doesn't sell. In this present case I'm positive that the answer to the over growth question is readily available for free by a simple phone call to the town clerk/town attorney. A homeowner would be embarassed to ask such a question in public, makes me doubt the OP is the property owner, more a question posed by a tenant. Why would a Homeowner be embarrassed? Homeowners do all sorts of things including painting their house weird colours, having appalling taste in architecture, in landscaping and plantings and furnishings. Just because you wouldn't ask a particular question in public doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (farml)
I think it's me he may be calling names.......LOL I better own my property and not just be a tenant because I been paying property taxes for the past 15 years. As far as drinking goes, well yea I do get a tad bit drunk every once in awhile :) As for Mr. Brooklyn, well it's getting pretty cold out now so I would advise he stay indoors. The squirrels are out gathering NUTS for the winter and I'd sure hate to see him disappear from this fine group. It's always good to keep a chap around like him for entertainment purposes if nothing else! hehehehe!!! Rich |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
On 1/4/2011 8:59 AM, EVP MAN wrote:
Well Billy, as far as income goes, I 'm also on a fixed income as I'm retired and living on social security. He is much better off than myself money wise. His home is a big duplex with a rental unit, he has all kinds of investments, social security, big pension from where he worked plus paid medical insurance from that employer also. I have SS and that's it. He's in much better health also. I have asthma, heart problems and can only walk for a few minutes before sitting down awhile. This is why I took up gardening. It's something I can do here at home at my own pace. I can no longer hunt or fish which I loved to do. Think I'll just cut his jungle off that over hangs my side and throw the debris over on his side for him to deal with. ............... Rich Not exactly the same situation but I have a neighbor your age that's in about the same physical situation but still works. His back grows completely wild. I'm older and retired but in better shape and have no problem with this as I have bushes and trees on my side and just trim as necessary. We get along fine. A few years ago he had a tree fall into my back yard in the winter and I called and told them since they probably could not see it from the house. They got a son to remove it and I discovered later that they probably did not have to do this as it was an act of God on my property. Point is you don't want to fight with neighbor. Maybe he'll loan you truck to cart of debris. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Frank)
Your right Frank, I don't want to fight with the neighbor by any means. I like him and his wife and do them favors all the time which I'm glad I can do. The only thing I don't like is the fact that they can see how their bushes overgrow my property and it doesn't mean a thing to them. If I had one single bush that was overgrowing their side, they would be over at my house in a hurry and ask me to trim it. Their bushes also overgrow my nice new concrete driveway and rub the sides of our vehicles. My car doesn't even have 3,000 miles on it yet so you can see where this doesn't make me real happy. Rich |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Frank)
On 1/4/2011 3:08 PM, EVP MAN wrote:
Your right Frank, I don't want to fight with the neighbor by any means. I like him and his wife and do them favors all the time which I'm glad I can do. The only thing I don't like is the fact that they can see how their bushes overgrow my property and it doesn't mean a thing to them. If I had one single bush that was overgrowing their side, they would be over at my house in a hurry and ask me to trim it. Their bushes also overgrow my nice new concrete driveway and rub the sides of our vehicles. My car doesn't even have 3,000 miles on it yet so you can see where this doesn't make me real happy. Rich I think it is legal to prune anything on your side even if it ruins the bush or the tree. I would certainly do this to protect my car. Don't think neighbor can dispute this. This is also the perfect time of year for pruning practically everything. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle
Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:36:31 -0800, "Bob F" wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: A jug of RoundUp... problem solved. I had an old neighbor who did that to his neighbor. A tree sprayer asked the victom what happened to the shrubs, and notified the state EPA, who came out and tested the shrubs, then had a talk with the old man. Do you honestly think anyone believes your just now made up fairytale, were it true you'd have offered it way upthread... why do so many on usenet have to behave like they're still acting out their drunken one upmanship BS like when they're still sucking down cheap suds at their favorite watering hole. Btw, the EPA is Federal: http://epa.gov/ Washington state has it's own agencies that enforce Washington state laws. And as the story, which is true, relates, they do so. Sorry I did not post it according to your schedule. I was merely trying to relate that you cannot just kill your neighbor's plants. (At least in some places) Homeowners have a right to eliminate whatever grows over their property line, They have a right to prune back growth over the property line, not the right to kill the plants with herbcides. Goodbye, moron. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
EVP MAN wrote:
Well Billy, as far as income goes, I 'm also on a fixed income as I'm retired and living on social security. He is much better off than myself money wise. His home is a big duplex with a rental unit, he has all kinds of investments, social security, big pension from where he worked plus paid medical insurance from that employer also. I have SS and that's it. He's in much better health also. I have asthma, heart problems and can only walk for a few minutes before sitting down awhile. This is why I took up gardening. It's something I can do here at home at my own pace. I can no longer hunt or fish which I loved to do. Think I'll just cut his jungle off that over hangs my side and throw the debris over on his side for him to deal with. ............... Rich That last item may get you into trouble. Anything growing or falling into your property is yours, not his, to deal with. He could get you cited for throwing it into his property. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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(EVP MAN) wrote: Well Billy, as far as income goes, I 'm also on a fixed income as I'm retired and living on social security. He is much better off than myself money wise. His home is a big duplex with a rental unit, he has all kinds of investments, social security, big pension from where he worked plus paid medical insurance from that employer also. I'm no shister, but it seems as if you are being deprived of the use of part of your property. Shade from his trees may also be reducing your property value. If he has breached clearly marked property lines, he needs to retreat to his own property. His behavior may be judged as elder abuse as well, since you seem to be in a vulnerable situation. What will you do when you can no longer trim his plants, yourself, incur the expense to hire a gardener? You need to have a talk with your neighbor, right after you talk to legal aid (first half hour should be free). The idea is to be friendly, while regretting to your neighbor, that he will have to pick up your court and lawyer costs, if an equitable solution can't be arrived at. Don't enter into an argument, keep it strictly on a financial basis. I have SS and that's it. He's in much better health also. I have asthma, heart problems and can only walk for a few minutes before sitting down awhile. Are you sure that you have asthma? An enlarged heart can mimic asthma, and treating it as asthma can kill you. Just another little chagrin in the end game:o( Heart failure can be treated, almost to the point of being cured (as long as you keep taking your pills). This is why I took up gardening. It's something I can do here at home at my own pace. I can no longer hunt or fish which I loved to do. Think I'll just cut his jungle off that over hangs my side and throw the debris over on his side for him to deal with. ............... Rich -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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"Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph p |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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, Billy wrote: In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? I was going to respond to Pico but knew deep in my heart that you would do it with more class. Just started to think about setting up seed culture set up. Seed order still in chaos as I'm thinking about more greens as the light issue has to be addresses which cost $ and my green side says go slow. -- Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden From "The Etiquette of Freedom" Shakespeare Quote. "We are nature too." |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
"Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? you can read my earlier post. that's it. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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"Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? you can read my earlier post. that's it. Have you noticed that even the trolls aren't what they used to be? Pathetic. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph p |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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Bill who putters wrote: In article , Billy wrote: In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? I was going to respond to Pico but knew deep in my heart that you would do it with more class. That's true. A good deal of my post was from "Cyrano de Bergerac" with Jose Ferrer: the nose speech, at about 10 min. into the movie. I like to steal from the best ;O) Just started to think about setting up seed culture set up. Seed order still in chaos as I'm thinking about more greens as the light issue has to be addresses which cost $ and my green side says go slow. Last year was my first year germinating under lights. I discovered that if I don't keep the light down to 8 hr. the plants would start going to flower. I guess I knew that, but it was the first time that I had experienced it. Last year, some of the tomatoes were planted with fruit already on them. I was in such a rush for Spring to arrive that I germinated the tomatoes in Feb. That was a tad early. I had to vamp for 2 months: schleping plants out in the morning, and back inside in the evening. Next month I'll start germinating the lettuce, peas, cabbage, and ever else gets tried this year. I'll start the tomatoes and peppers in March. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph p |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
Billy wrote:
In article , (EVP MAN) wrote: Well Billy, as far as income goes, I 'm also on a fixed income as I'm retired and living on social security. He is much better off than myself money wise. His home is a big duplex with a rental unit, he has all kinds of investments, social security, big pension from where he worked plus paid medical insurance from that employer also. I'm no shister, but it seems as if you are being deprived of the use of part of your property. Shade from his trees may also be reducing your property value. If he has breached clearly marked property lines, he needs to retreat to his own property. His behavior may be judged as elder abuse as well, since you seem to be in a vulnerable situation. What will you do when you can no longer trim his plants, yourself, incur the expense to hire a gardener? You need to have a talk with your neighbor, right after you talk to legal aid (first half hour should be free). The idea is to be friendly, while regretting to your neighbor, that he will have to pick up your court and lawyer costs, if an equitable solution can't be arrived at. Don't enter into an argument, keep it strictly on a financial basis. Just like everyone else in most of this world, the OP has little control over what is growing in his neighbor's yard. He has a right to prune back what crosses the property line. He has no right to sunlight that might be blocked by trees next door. That's just the way it works unless there are covenents or the government enacts laws saying otherwise. Sometimes I wish it were otherwise - I'd love to see the big poplar trees east and south of me go away. I could offer the neighbors money to remove them, but that's about my only option. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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"Bob F" wrote: Billy wrote: In article , (EVP MAN) wrote: Well Billy, as far as income goes, I 'm also on a fixed income as I'm retired and living on social security. He is much better off than myself money wise. His home is a big duplex with a rental unit, he has all kinds of investments, social security, big pension from where he worked plus paid medical insurance from that employer also. I'm no shister, but it seems as if you are being deprived of the use of part of your property. Shade from his trees may also be reducing your property value. If he has breached clearly marked property lines, he needs to retreat to his own property. His behavior may be judged as elder abuse as well, since you seem to be in a vulnerable situation. What will you do when you can no longer trim his plants, yourself, incur the expense to hire a gardener? You need to have a talk with your neighbor, right after you talk to legal aid (first half hour should be free). The idea is to be friendly, while regretting to your neighbor, that he will have to pick up your court and lawyer costs, if an equitable solution can't be arrived at. Don't enter into an argument, keep it strictly on a financial basis. Just like everyone else in most of this world, the OP has little control over what is growing in his neighbor's yard. He has a right to prune back what crosses the property line. He has no right to sunlight that might be blocked by trees next door. That's just the way it works unless there are covenents or the government enacts laws saying otherwise. Sometimes I wish it were otherwise - I'd love to see the big poplar trees east and south of me go away. I could offer the neighbors money to remove them, but that's about my only option. As I said, I'm no shister, so I recommended that Rich talk to legal aid to find out the rules of the game first, before talking to his neighbor. Legal aid often comes free for the first 1/2 hour. At a minimum, the neighbor is off base with his landscape timbers. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
"Billy" wrote in message
... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? you can read my earlier post. that's it. Have you noticed that even the trolls aren't what they used to be? Pathetic. Yup. But what do you expect as usenet is in it's death throws? Intelligent and literate trolls can be quite amusing, but I havent' seen one I'd put in that class for a looong time. |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:06:01 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? you can read my earlier post. that's it. Have you noticed that even the trolls aren't what they used to be? Pathetic. Yup. But what do you expect as usenet is in it's death throws? Intelligent and literate trolls can be quite amusing, but I havent' seen one I'd put in that class for a looong time. An intelligent/literate person would have written death *throes*. Thank you for the amusement. LOL |
Property Line Looks Like A Jungle (Billy)
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Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:06:01 +1100, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article , "Pico Rico" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... You are a jackass. That's it? Only an invective? That's too simple. You could have said a great many things. Do you have so little wit? You pug. You nob. You button head. You waste bandwidth, and then run away like a frightened child? you can read my earlier post. that's it. Have you noticed that even the trolls aren't what they used to be? Pathetic. Yup. But what do you expect as usenet is in it's death throws? Intelligent and literate trolls can be quite amusing, but I havent' seen one I'd put in that class for a looong time. An intelligent/literate person would have written death *throes*. Thank you for the amusement. LOL The anti-Christian is out of his bottle again. Redacting a UseNet post makes you neither intelligent or literate. LOL. If you want a more formal presentation of posts, then go to another news group, PLEASE. From: Sheldon/Brooklyn1 Newsgroups: rec.gardens Subject: I would like some feedback.. Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Christian wrote: I own a business "Professional Pond Maintenance and Fish Care". That's your first untruth... you *operate* a business.... you don't own a business until your IRS return doesn't show you're operating at a loss. I'm not here to promote my business. That's your second untruth. I'm wanting to get any and all feedback, positive or negative, on a website I designed recently to go with it. I advertise locally and direct folks to my site for more information. Here is the link:http://allyoudoisfeedthefish.net/index.html What do you think of the basic design? Can you read it easily? Ads or no ads? I'm thinking people here are close to my target audience, being that garden lovers usually like ponds even if they don't personally have one. Thank You, Christian Your parents must have had high hopes for you to succeed in the arts... you're not going to do well in business unless you change your name. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...acks_1-5-09.ph p |
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