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There is a beautiful shy Australian called ‘Sturt Desert Pea’. I just
included it in my ebook, and I try to be accurate when adding
botanical names. Strangely, this one is ‘Clianthus formosus’ in some
books, but ‘Swainsona formosa’ in others. I chose the latter because
it seems a more recent naming. I found that in 1999 yet another
classification was suggested but “…rejected by the scientific
community…”
Question: who exactly determines a plant’s classification?
Thanks for replies – Klaus
www.greetings122.com
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On 8/25/12 9:56 PM, wrote:
There is a beautiful shy Australian called ‘Sturt Desert Pea’. I just
included it in my ebook, and I try to be accurate when adding
botanical names. Strangely, this one is ‘Clianthus formosus’ in some
books, but ‘Swainsona formosa’ in others. I chose the latter because
it seems a more recent naming. I found that in 1999 yet another
classification was suggested but “…rejected by the scientific
community…”
Question: who exactly determines a plant’s classification?
Thanks for replies – Klaus
www.greetings122.com


For a long time, flowering plants were classified mostly by the forms of
their flowers, including microscopic examinations. Other
characteristics were also used, but flower form was the primary
characteristic.

In recent years, however, the advent of DNA sequencing has led to using
that as the primary (almost sole) basis for classification. Two
different plants with very similar DNA are now classed as closely
related and might thus be separate species in the same genus or even
separate varieties of the sam species. This has led to (1) a major
reclassification of plants and (2) the creation of new genera and species.

For the botanical names of plants in my garden that I indicate on my Web
site, I rely mostly on Sunset's "Western Garden Book", which might be
considered the "gardening bible" for the U.S. and Canada west of the
Rocky Mountains. Australia, of course, is outside the scope of that
reference except for imports of some North American native plants into
Australia and (more likely) exports of Australian native plants into
North America.

A new edition of Sunset's "Western Garden Book" is published every few
years. I currently have four different editions. When I get a new
edition, I check all the botanical names shown on my Web site to see if
any require updating. Often, the book parenthetically indicates prior
botanical names when there has been a change. The book generally does
not have botanical names for vegetables and fruit trees but does have
botanical names for ornamental varieties of those.

Where the book does not list botanical names, I resort to Wikipedia.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary
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On 8/26/12 8:12 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/25/12 9:56 PM, wrote:
There is a beautiful shy Australian called ‘Sturt Desert Pea’. I just
included it in my ebook, and I try to be accurate when adding
botanical names. Strangely, this one is ‘Clianthus formosus’ in some
books, but ‘Swainsona formosa’ in others. I chose the latter because
it seems a more recent naming. I found that in 1999 yet another
classification was suggested but “…rejected by the scientific
community…”
Question: who exactly determines a plant’s classification?
Thanks for replies – Klaus
www.greetings122.com


For a long time, flowering plants were classified mostly by the forms of
their flowers, including microscopic examinations. Other
characteristics were also used, but flower form was the primary
characteristic.

In recent years, however, the advent of DNA sequencing has led to using
that as the primary (almost sole) basis for classification. Two
different plants with very similar DNA are now classed as closely
related and might thus be separate species in the same genus or even
separate varieties of the sam species. This has led to (1) a major
reclassification of plants and (2) the creation of new genera and species.

[snipping part of my own prior reply]

The ultimate arbitrator of botanical names is the International
Association for Plant Taxonomy.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary
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On Aug 27, 4:49*am, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 26/08/2012 05:56, wrote:

There is a beautiful shy Australian called ‘Sturt Desert Pea’. I just
included it in my ebook, and *I try to be accurate when adding
botanical names. Strangely, this one is ‘Clianthus formosus’ in some
books, but ‘Swainsona formosa’ in others. I chose the latter because
it seems a more recent naming. I found that in 1999 yet another
classification was suggested but “…rejected by the scientific
community…”
Question: who exactly determines a plant’s classification?
Thanks for replies – Klaus
www.greetings122.com


You may find the article " Major changes to the Code of
Nomenclature—Melbourne, July 2011" of interest:http://masetto.ingentaselect.co.uk/f...e4ab5ee6c99579...

--

Jeff

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On Aug 27, 1:16*am, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 8/26/12 8:12 AM, David E. Ross wrote:







On 8/25/12 9:56 PM, wrote:
There is a beautiful shy Australian called Sturt Desert Pea . I just
included it in my ebook, and *I try to be accurate when adding
botanical names. Strangely, this one is Clianthus formosus in some
books, but Swainsona formosa in others. I chose the latter because
it seems a more recent naming. I found that in 1999 yet another
classification was suggested but rejected by the scientific
community
Question: who exactly determines a plant s classification?
Thanks for replies Klaus
www.greetings122.com


For a long time, flowering plants were classified mostly by the forms of
their flowers, including microscopic examinations. *Other
characteristics were also used, but flower form was the primary
characteristic.


In recent years, however, the advent of DNA sequencing has led to using
that as the primary (almost sole) basis for classification. *Two
different plants with very similar DNA are now classed as closely
related and might thus be separate species in the same genus or even
separate varieties of the sam species. *This has led to (1) a major
reclassification of plants and (2) the creation of new genera and species.


* * * * [snipping part of my own prior reply]

The ultimate arbitrator of botanical names is the International
Association for Plant Taxonomy.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

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Thank you for to-the-point reply - Klaus.
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On Aug 27, 1:12*am, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 8/25/12 9:56 PM, wrote:

There is a beautiful shy Australian called ‘Sturt Desert Pea’. I just
included it in my ebook, and *I try to be accurate when adding
botanical names. Strangely, this one is ‘Clianthus formosus’ in some
books, but ‘Swainsona formosa’ in others. I chose the latter because
it seems a more recent naming. I found that in 1999 yet another
classification was suggested but “…rejected by the scientific
community…”
Question: who exactly determines a plant’s classification?
Thanks for replies – Klaus
www.greetings122.com


For a long time, flowering plants were classified mostly by the forms of
their flowers, including microscopic examinations. *Other
characteristics were also used, but flower form was the primary
characteristic.

In recent years, however, the advent of DNA sequencing has led to using
that as the primary (almost sole) basis for classification. *Two
different plants with very similar DNA are now classed as closely
related and might thus be separate species in the same genus or even
separate varieties of the sam species. *This has led to (1) a major
reclassification of plants and (2) the creation of new genera and species..

For the botanical names of plants in my garden that I indicate on my Web
site, I rely mostly on Sunset's "Western Garden Book", which might be
considered the "gardening bible" for the U.S. and Canada west of the
Rocky Mountains. *Australia, of course, is outside the scope of that
reference except for imports of some North American native plants into
Australia and (more likely) exports of Australian native plants into
North America.

A new edition of Sunset's "Western Garden Book" is published every few
years. *I currently have four different editions. *When I get a new
edition, I check all the botanical names shown on my Web site to see if
any require updating. *Often, the book parenthetically indicates prior
botanical names when there has been a change. *The book generally does
not have botanical names for vegetables and fruit trees but does have
botanical names for ornamental varieties of those.

Where the book does not list botanical names, I resort to Wikipedia.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary


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