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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.

http://www.jpost.com/Sci-Tech/Article.aspx?id=285757

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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.


I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


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On 9/23/12 6:05 PM, Farm1 wrote:
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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.


I've never even heard of methyl bromide!



It is used extensively as an agricultural soil fumigant, especially just
prior to planting strawberries.

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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.


I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


It's used, ostensibly, to kill nematodes, but, basically, destroys the
soil ecology, and the ozone layer. It is used in vineyards (prior to
planting), and strawberry fields here in California. Its use is driven
by quarterly profits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_bromide
Bromomethane is readily photolyzed in the atmosphere to release
elemental bromine, which is far more destructive to stratospheric ozone
than chlorine. As such, it is subject to phase-out requirements of the
1987 Montreal Protocol on Ozone Depleting Substances.

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On Sep 23, 7:13*pm, Billy wrote:
In article , "Farm1"
wrote:

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. *The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.


I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


It's used, ostensibly, to kill nematodes, but, basically, destroys the
soil ecology, and the ozone layer. It is used in vineyards (prior to
planting), and strawberry fields here in California. Its use is driven
by quarterly profits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_bromide
Bromomethane is readily photolyzed in the atmosphere to release
elemental bromine, which is far more destructive to stratospheric ozone
than chlorine. As such, it is subject to phase-out requirements of the
1987 Montreal Protocol on Ozone Depleting Substances.

--
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_...


It seems to me that if a little tiny country -- admittedly a world
leader in technology -- can figure out a way to do without this awful
stuff, that our big rich country should be ashamed to be eft behind.

Unfortunately, the occupants of the best little whorehouse in
Washington -- aka the U.S. Congress -- do the bidding of their
corporate masters; the public be damned.

At the Wikipedia site Billy posted, all becomes clear:

==============================

In the United States bromomethane is regulated as a pesticide under
the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA; 7
U.S.C. 136 et seq.) and as a hazardous substance under the Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA; 42 U.S.C. 6901 et seq.), and is
subject to reporting requirements under the Emergency Planning and
Community Right-to-Know Act (EPCRA; 42 U.S.C. 11001 et seq.). The U.S.
Clean Air Act (CAA; 42 U.S.C. 7401 et seq.). A 1998 amendment (P.L.
105-178, Title VI) conformed the Clean Air Act phase out date with
that of the Montreal Protocol.[11][12]

*******Whereas the Montreal Protocol has severely restricted the use
of bromomethane internationally, the United States has successfully
lobbied for critical-use exemptions. ******* In 2004, over 7 million
pounds of bromomethane were applied to California. Applications
include tomato, strawberry, and ornamental shrub growers, and
fumigation of ham/pork products. Also exempt is the treatment of solid
wood packaging (forklift pallets, crates, bracing), and the packaged
goods, being exported to ISPM 15 countries(to include Canada in 2012).

Same old, same old...

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"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 7:13 pm, Billy wrote:
In article , "Farm1"
wrote:

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.


I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


It's used, ostensibly, to kill nematodes, but, basically, destroys the
soil ecology, and the ozone layer. It is used in vineyards (prior to
planting), and strawberry fields here in California. Its use is driven
by quarterly profits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_bromide
Bromomethane is readily photolyzed in the atmosphere to release
elemental bromine, which is far more destructive to stratospheric ozone
than chlorine. As such, it is subject to phase-out requirements of the
1987 Montreal Protocol on Ozone Depleting Substances.

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_...


It seems to me that if a little tiny country -- admittedly a world
leader in technology -- can figure out a way to do without this awful
stuff, that our big rich country should be ashamed to be eft behind.

Unfortunately, the occupants of the best little whorehouse in
Washington -- aka the U.S. Congress -- do the bidding of their
corporate masters; the public be damned.

At the Wikipedia site Billy posted, all becomes clear:

==============================

In the United States bromomethane is regulated as a pesticide under
the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA; 7
U.S.C. 136 et seq.) and as a hazardous substance under the Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA; 42 U.S.C. 6901 et seq.), and is
subject to reporting requirements under the Emergency Planning and
Community Right-to-Know Act (EPCRA; 42 U.S.C. 11001 et seq.). The U.S.
Clean Air Act (CAA; 42 U.S.C. 7401 et seq.). A 1998 amendment (P.L.
105-178, Title VI) conformed the Clean Air Act phase out date with
that of the Montreal Protocol.[11][12]

*******Whereas the Montreal Protocol has severely restricted the use
of bromomethane internationally, the United States has successfully
lobbied for critical-use exemptions. ******* In 2004, over 7 million
pounds of bromomethane were applied to California. Applications
include tomato, strawberry, and ornamental shrub growers, and
fumigation of ham/pork products. Also exempt is the treatment of solid
wood packaging (forklift pallets, crates, bracing), and the packaged
goods, being exported to ISPM 15 countries(to include Canada in 2012).

Same old, same old...
______________________________________
Nasty stuff for the poor old planet.

I've just done a search on it's use here and it seems that although the use
as an ag. product is becoming lower over time, as a chemical used as part of
our Quarantine, it could be a lot lower if we weren't quite so fussy.


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"Farm1" wrote in message
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"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.


I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


****ing A, dude. We just discussed it here a month ago...........


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Methyl bromide, used to disinfect soil before planting strawberries, which is 60 times damaging the ozone layer then chloroflurocarbons, which are banned in America. Methyl bromide is acutely toxic, exposure to high concentrations can cause damage to the respiratory and central nervous systems even cause death. The United States is responsible for about 40 percent of the 72,000 tons of methyl bromide used worldwide every year, with California alone producing 80 percent of the nation’s berries and 20 percent of the global market — 1.5 billion pounds yearly. Farmers credit methyl bromide along with the mild, coastal climate (their fields are four times more productive than any other state) for their $750 million crop.
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Steve B wrote:
"Farm1" wrote in message
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"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.


I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


****ing A, dude. We just discussed it here a month ago...........


Funny, where's that castle gone?

D
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Higgs Boson wrote:
....
At the Wikipedia site Billy posted, all becomes clear:

==============================

In the United States bromomethane is regulated as a pesticide under
the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA; 7
U.S.C. 136 et seq.) and as a hazardous substance under the Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA; 42 U.S.C. 6901 et seq.), and is
subject to reporting requirements under the Emergency Planning and
Community Right-to-Know Act (EPCRA; 42 U.S.C. 11001 et seq.). The U.S.
Clean Air Act (CAA; 42 U.S.C. 7401 et seq.). A 1998 amendment (P.L.
105-178, Title VI) conformed the Clean Air Act phase out date with
that of the Montreal Protocol.[11][12]

*******Whereas the Montreal Protocol has severely restricted the use
of bromomethane internationally, the United States has successfully
lobbied for critical-use exemptions. ******* In 2004, over 7 million
pounds of bromomethane were applied to California. Applications
include tomato, strawberry, and ornamental shrub growers, and
fumigation of ham/pork products. Also exempt is the treatment of solid
wood packaging (forklift pallets, crates, bracing), and the packaged
goods, being exported to ISPM 15 countries(to include Canada in 2012).


=====

Same old, same old...


the public is also the representatives... if you
insist on making it an "us or them" kind of situation
then you get the results of a multi-class system (rulers
and peons).

if nobody speaks up loud enough then they go with
what the lobbyists push down their throats.

if people want change they have to speak up,
show up and keep expressing interest.


songbird


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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Steve B wrote:
"Farm1" wrote in message
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"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.

I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


****ing A, dude. We just discussed it here a month ago...........


Funny, where's that castle gone?

D


If a castle disappears, and no one sees it, is it really gone, and did it
really ever exist?

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Steve B wrote:
"Farm1" wrote in message
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"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
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This article describes an Israeli enterprise that sends grafted
vegetable seedlings all over the world. The objective is to avoid/
replace the use of harmful methyl bromide.

I've never even heard of methyl bromide!


****ing A, dude. We just discussed it here a month ago...........


Funny, where's that castle gone?


He'll see it again soon.


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On Sep 24, 5:57*am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:

...









At the Wikipedia site *Billy posted, all becomes clear:


==============================


In the United States bromomethane is regulated as a pesticide under
the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA; 7
U.S.C. 136 et seq.) and as a hazardous substance under the Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA; 42 U.S.C. 6901 et seq.), and is
subject to reporting requirements under the Emergency Planning and
Community Right-to-Know Act (EPCRA; 42 U.S.C. 11001 et seq.). The U.S.
Clean Air Act (CAA; 42 U.S.C. 7401 et seq.). A 1998 amendment (P.L.
105-178, Title VI) conformed the Clean Air Act phase out date with
that of the Montreal Protocol.[11][12]


********Whereas the Montreal Protocol has severely restricted the use
of bromomethane internationally, the United States has successfully
lobbied for critical-use exemptions. ******* *In 2004, over 7 million
pounds of bromomethane were applied to California. Applications
include tomato, strawberry, and ornamental shrub growers, and
fumigation of ham/pork products. Also exempt is the treatment of solid
wood packaging (forklift pallets, crates, bracing), and the packaged
goods, being exported to ISPM 15 countries(to include Canada in 2012).


=====

Same old, same old...


* the public is also the representatives... *if you
insist on making it an "us or them" kind of situation
then you get the results of a multi-class system (rulers
and peons).

* if nobody speaks up loud enough then they go with
what the lobbyists push down their throats.

* if people want change they have to speak up,
show up and keep expressing interest.

* songbird


Du sprichts aus meinem Leben, Songbird.

AKA, dass 'raht, pipple does havtah do wha you sez...

But they is too dam iggerant 'n lazy tah even try!

HB
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Farmers credit methyl bromide along with the mild, coastal climate
(their fields are four times more productive than any other state) for
their $750 million crop.

$781 million in Monterey County alone in 2110.
California is trying to replace it with methyl iodide which is
marginally better - or worse - depending on who you want to believe
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