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Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not, could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!
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On 10/4/12 5:22 AM, Adria wrote:
Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


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Not all camellias have the classic formal flower, either a plain "formal
double" or a "rose-form double". Some have what are called "anemone
form", which is a disc of petals surrounding an irregular mass of petals
in the center. Others have "peony form", which is a double with an
irregular mass of petals.

It does look like a cluster of camellia flowers instead of a single
flower. However, if your photo is indeed of a single flower, this might
be a species other than C. japonica or C. sasanqua.

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia for the other species.
That site also lists three camellia societies.

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On 10/4/12 5:22 AM, Adria wrote:
Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


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|Download: http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15355|
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Not all camellias have the classic formal flower, either a plain "formal
double" or a "rose-form double". Some have what are called "anemone
form", which is a disc of petals surrounding an irregular mass of petals
in the center. Others have "peony form", which is a double with an
irregular mass of petals.

It does look like a cluster of camellia flowers instead of a single
flower. However, if your photo is indeed of a single flower, this might
be a species other than C. japonica or C. sasanqua.

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia for the other species.
That site also lists three camellia societies.


Assuming that the leaves in the photographs belong to the same plant as
the flower/s, is there a Camellia with leaves of that shape?


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On 10/4/12 5:22 AM, Adria wrote:
Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


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|Download:
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15354|
|Filename: Photo0114.jpg |
|Download:
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15355|
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+


Not all camellias have the classic formal flower, either a plain "formal
double" or a "rose-form double". Some have what are called "anemone
form", which is a disc of petals surrounding an irregular mass of petals
in the center. Others have "peony form", which is a double with an
irregular mass of petals.

It does look like a cluster of camellia flowers instead of a single
flower. However, if your photo is indeed of a single flower, this might
be a species other than C. japonica or C. sasanqua.

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia for the other species.
That site also lists three camellia societies.


Assuming that the leaves in the photographs belong to the same plant as
the flower/s, is there a Camellia with leaves of that shape?


Aha! Someone else who thinks those leaves are wrong for a camellia!!!!


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Looks like a peony
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On 10/4/12 5:22 AM, Adria wrote:
Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


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|Filename: Photo0112.jpg |
|Download:
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15354|
|Filename: Photo0114.jpg |
|Download:
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15355|
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+

Not all camellias have the classic formal flower, either a plain "formal
double" or a "rose-form double". Some have what are called "anemone
form", which is a disc of petals surrounding an irregular mass of petals
in the center. Others have "peony form", which is a double with an
irregular mass of petals.

It does look like a cluster of camellia flowers instead of a single
flower. However, if your photo is indeed of a single flower, this might
be a species other than C. japonica or C. sasanqua.

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia for the other species.
That site also lists three camellia societies.


Assuming that the leaves in the photographs belong to the same plant as
the flower/s, is there a Camellia with leaves of that shape?


Aha! Someone else who thinks those leaves are wrong for a camellia!!!!





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Looks like a peony


Foliage is not right for a peony.

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On 10/4/12 5:22 AM, Adria wrote:
Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Filename: Photo0112.jpg |
|Download:
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15354|
|Filename: Photo0114.jpg |
|Download:
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15355|
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+

Not all camellias have the classic formal flower, either a plain "formal
double" or a "rose-form double". Some have what are called "anemone
form", which is a disc of petals surrounding an irregular mass of petals
in the center. Others have "peony form", which is a double with an
irregular mass of petals.

It does look like a cluster of camellia flowers instead of a single
flower. However, if your photo is indeed of a single flower, this might
be a species other than C. japonica or C. sasanqua.

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia for the other species.
That site also lists three camellia societies.

Assuming that the leaves in the photographs belong to the same plant as
the flower/s, is there a Camellia with leaves of that shape?


Aha! Someone else who thinks those leaves are wrong for a camellia!!!!





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On 10/4/12 5:22 AM, Adria wrote:
Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


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|Filename: Photo0112.jpg |
|Download: http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15354|
|Filename: Photo0114.jpg |
|Download: http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15355|
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+


Not all camellias have the classic formal flower, either a plain "formal
double" or a "rose-form double". Some have what are called "anemone
form", which is a disc of petals surrounding an irregular mass of petals
in the center. Others have "peony form", which is a double with an
irregular mass of petals.

It does look like a cluster of camellia flowers instead of a single
flower. However, if your photo is indeed of a single flower, this might
be a species other than C. japonica or C. sasanqua.

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia for the other species.
That site also lists three camellia societies.

Assuming that the leaves in the photographs belong to the same plant as
the flower/s, is there a Camellia with leaves of that shape?

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Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


The leaves look wrong for it to be a camellia. The whole plant looks
wrong - it just doesn't look woody enough to be a camellia to my way of
thinking. The foliage/stems etc have got more the look of a hydrangea (in
terms of non-woodiness) than a camellia. And before anyone says it's not a
hydrangea, I'm not saying it is one - just has the same sort of toughish,
but non-woody stem structure.

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On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:22:46 +0000, Adria wrote:

Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!


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Finally!!! Thank you, Emilie! I have also found pictures on google now as Chinese glory bower, this is it Now I have to find its name in my language (I'm from Romania Thank you again!




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On Oct 6, 12:13*am, Adria wrote:
Finally!!! Thank you, Emilie! I have also found pictures on google
now as Chinese glory bower, this is it Now I have to find its name in
my language (I'm from Romania Thank you again!





You are welcome.

Spelling correction: Clerodendrum
The Latin name is correct in any language..............that
is............
if it is spelled correctly! LOL
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:22:46 +0000, Adria
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Hello. I have had this plant for many years now (from my grandma), and
we always called it Camellia - but I googled for images of camellias I
haven't found any that resemble this one. Is it really that? If not,
could anyone please tell me what it is?Thank you!



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Finally!!! Thank you, Emilie! I have also found pictures on google now as Chinese glory bower, this is it Now I have to find its name in my language (I'm from Romania Thank you again!
What an extraordinary and diverse family Clerodendrum is. According to wikipedia, there is no common Romanian name for them. Even in English, the name "glorybower" is not well known, at least it isn't here in England, you are far more likely to be sold a Clerodendrum trichotomum var. fargesii than a Harlequin glorybower.
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