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Higgs Boson wrote:

On Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:12:18 AM UTC-7, David E. Ross wrote:
On 8/8/13 2:38 AM, Jymesion wrote:

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'Niagara' is a general-purpose grape, suitable for eating fresh, juice,

and wine. Most grapes do not really care about soil; your "worst

possible place" with building rubble and clay is likely okay.


"Most grapes do not really care about soil.."

David, can you hear the anguished screams from vintners of France and
everywhere else where wine grapes are grown! Can you say "terroir"???

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HB

Wine grapes are grown on crummy soil, because nothing else will grow
there. Check out the cliffs of the Moselle that disguise themselves of
as vineyards.
http://www.pbase.com/bauer/mosel_river

Terroir is the set of special characteristics that the geography,
geology,climate and, orientation vis-a-vis the sun of a certain place,
interacting with the plant's genetics. It ain't just the dirt.

For table grapes it is good to have access to water to swell the size of
the grapes. Wine grapes must be water stressed. The more stress, this
side of raisons, the better, if you're going to be drinking it.
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