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Cold ... for Southern California
On 12/20/2015 3:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
This morning, I saw frost on my neighbors' roofs as late as 8:30am. "Winter chill" is the number of hous the termperature is at or below 45F. I generally measure from 1 November to 31 March. The average for my area is about 330 hours. Two years ago, however, we got only 127 hours. Last year it was only 102 hours with the first chill occuring late on Christmas day. This year seems to be reverting back to normal. Our first chill was in mid-November. So far, we have had over 50 hours of chill. Just because we are having a normally cold winter does not mean there is no human-induced climate change. "One swallow does not make a summer." (Aristotle) Especially since those of us living in the northern states have yet to experience actual winter weather. We've had only a handful of days where the temps dropped below freezing, maybe two where it got down to the teens. None at all where it reached zero or below. Our grass is still green, for pete's sake - and I live in Minnesota. |
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On 12/22/2015 9:25 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
On 12/20/2015 3:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote: This morning, I saw frost on my neighbors' roofs as late as 8:30am. "Winter chill" is the number of hous the termperature is at or below 45F. I generally measure from 1 November to 31 March. The average for my area is about 330 hours. Two years ago, however, we got only 127 hours. Last year it was only 102 hours with the first chill occuring late on Christmas day. This year seems to be reverting back to normal. Our first chill was in mid-November. So far, we have had over 50 hours of chill. Just because we are having a normally cold winter does not mean there is no human-induced climate change. "One swallow does not make a summer." (Aristotle) Especially since those of us living in the northern states have yet to experience actual winter weather. We've had only a handful of days where the temps dropped below freezing, maybe two where it got down to the teens. None at all where it reached zero or below. Our grass is still green, for pete's sake - and I live in Minnesota. All due to climate change - more of a problem than ISIS. |
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In article , "frank says...
On 12/22/2015 9:25 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: On 12/20/2015 3:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote: This morning, I saw frost on my neighbors' roofs as late as 8:30am. "Winter chill" is the number of hous the termperature is at or below 45F. I generally measure from 1 November to 31 March. The average for my area is about 330 hours. Two years ago, however, we got only 127 hours. Last year it was only 102 hours with the first chill occuring late on Christmas day. This year seems to be reverting back to normal. Our first chill was in mid-November. So far, we have had over 50 hours of chill. Just because we are having a normally cold winter does not mean there is no human-induced climate change. "One swallow does not make a summer." (Aristotle) Especially since those of us living in the northern states have yet to experience actual winter weather. We've had only a handful of days where the temps dropped below freezing, maybe two where it got down to the teens. None at all where it reached zero or below. Our grass is still green, for pete's sake - and I live in Minnesota. All due to climate change - more of a problem than ISIS. "Climate change" isn't selling people into slavery. And it's been changing for longer than humans have existed--the problem now is that it's changing in a way and at a time that gives a certain political subgroup an opportunity to try to transfer wealth. |
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On 12/23/2015 7:02 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article , "frank says... On 12/22/2015 9:25 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: On 12/20/2015 3:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote: This morning, I saw frost on my neighbors' roofs as late as 8:30am. "Winter chill" is the number of hous the termperature is at or below 45F. I generally measure from 1 November to 31 March. The average for my area is about 330 hours. Two years ago, however, we got only 127 hours. Last year it was only 102 hours with the first chill occuring late on Christmas day. This year seems to be reverting back to normal. Our first chill was in mid-November. So far, we have had over 50 hours of chill. Just because we are having a normally cold winter does not mean there is no human-induced climate change. "One swallow does not make a summer." (Aristotle) Especially since those of us living in the northern states have yet to experience actual winter weather. We've had only a handful of days where the temps dropped below freezing, maybe two where it got down to the teens. None at all where it reached zero or below. Our grass is still green, for pete's sake - and I live in Minnesota. All due to climate change - more of a problem than ISIS. "Climate change" isn't selling people into slavery. And it's been changing for longer than humans have existed--the problem now is that it's changing in a way and at a time that gives a certain political subgroup an opportunity to try to transfer wealth. My attempt at sarcasm. I've urged folks to read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Environmentalists went nuts but that was not the main purpose of the book but to point out what you have just written. |
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On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 4:56:15 AM UTC-8, Frank wrote:
On 12/23/2015 7:02 AM, J. Clarke wrote: In article , "frank says... On 12/22/2015 9:25 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: On 12/20/2015 3:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote: This morning, I saw frost on my neighbors' roofs as late as 8:30am. "Winter chill" is the number of hous the termperature is at or below 45F. I generally measure from 1 November to 31 March. The average for my area is about 330 hours. Two years ago, however, we got only 127 hours. Last year it was only 102 hours with the first chill occuring late on Christmas day. This year seems to be reverting back to normal. Our first chill was in mid-November. So far, we have had over 50 hours of chill. Just because we are having a normally cold winter does not mean there is no human-induced climate change. "One swallow does not make a summer." (Aristotle) Especially since those of us living in the northern states have yet to experience actual winter weather. We've had only a handful of days where the temps dropped below freezing, maybe two where it got down to the teens. None at all where it reached zero or below. Our grass is still green, for pete's sake - and I live in Minnesota. All due to climate change - more of a problem than ISIS. "Climate change" isn't selling people into slavery. And it's been changing for longer than humans have existed--the problem now is that it's changing in a way and at a time that gives a certain political subgroup an opportunity to try to transfer wealth. My attempt at sarcasm. I've urged folks to read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Environmentalists went nuts but that was not the main purpose of the book but to point out what you have just written. I read that dreadful, dreadful, cheap-shot drivel with incredulity; then anger. Maybe certain parties here are subtle enough to read good intent into evil performance. But the average NYTimes best seller purchaser-type would more likely take the bad stuff for (what passes in their limited cosmos) for reality. "Environmentalists went nuts" is yet another cheap shot. Bad enough that for the last 35 years, since James Hansen's testimony before Congress, Our Corporate Masters have succeeded in heading off climate reform advocated by thinking people until we have probably passed the fabled 'tipping point'. But for an influential pop novelist to further distort the limited thinking powers of hoi polloi is unforgivable. I hope Michael Crichton's great-grandchildren, if they are able to survive, realize who helped bring about their fate! |
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On 12/27/2015 12:13 PM, Hypatia Nachshon wrote:
On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 4:56:15 AM UTC-8, Frank wrote: On 12/23/2015 7:02 AM, J. Clarke wrote: In article , "frank says... On 12/22/2015 9:25 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: On 12/20/2015 3:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote: This morning, I saw frost on my neighbors' roofs as late as 8:30am. "Winter chill" is the number of hous the termperature is at or below 45F. I generally measure from 1 November to 31 March. The average for my area is about 330 hours. Two years ago, however, we got only 127 hours. Last year it was only 102 hours with the first chill occuring late on Christmas day. This year seems to be reverting back to normal. Our first chill was in mid-November. So far, we have had over 50 hours of chill. Just because we are having a normally cold winter does not mean there is no human-induced climate change. "One swallow does not make a summer." (Aristotle) Especially since those of us living in the northern states have yet to experience actual winter weather. We've had only a handful of days where the temps dropped below freezing, maybe two where it got down to the teens. None at all where it reached zero or below. Our grass is still green, for pete's sake - and I live in Minnesota. All due to climate change - more of a problem than ISIS. "Climate change" isn't selling people into slavery. And it's been changing for longer than humans have existed--the problem now is that it's changing in a way and at a time that gives a certain political subgroup an opportunity to try to transfer wealth. My attempt at sarcasm. I've urged folks to read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Environmentalists went nuts but that was not the main purpose of the book but to point out what you have just written. I read that dreadful, dreadful, cheap-shot drivel with incredulity; then anger. Maybe certain parties here are subtle enough to read good intent into evil performance. But the average NYTimes best seller purchaser-type would more likely take the bad stuff for (what passes in their limited cosmos) for reality. "Environmentalists went nuts" is yet another cheap shot. Bad enough that for the last 35 years, since James Hansen's testimony before Congress, Our Corporate Masters have succeeded in heading off climate reform advocated by thinking people until we have probably passed the fabled 'tipping point'. But for an influential pop novelist to further distort the limited thinking powers of hoi polloi is unforgivable. I hope Michael Crichton's great-grandchildren, if they are able to survive, realize who helped bring about their fate! Thought I might get a rise out of you Sara. Happy New Year |
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Moe DeLoughan wrote:
.... Especially since those of us living in the northern states have yet to experience actual winter weather. We've had only a handful of days where the temps dropped below freezing, maybe two where it got down to the teens. None at all where it reached zero or below. Our grass is still green, for pete's sake - and I live in Minnesota. at least CA is getting some decent rains the past few weeks. seeing positive numbers for a change on the reservoirs inflow/outflow balance. we've had one snowfall of significance this year so far and the warmer weather is nice for keeping the heating bill down (we already keep the heat fairly cool for the winter anyways -- this is just bonus to have it not running so often). a lot of rain though, so i guess it's ok that we don't have to shovel it and it is safer for driving if we have to go out. Christmas is forecast to be above freezing and no snow on the ground. songbird |
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at least CA is getting some decent rains the past few weeks. seeing positive numbers for a change on the reservoirs inflow/outflow balance. we've had one snowfall of significance this year so far and the warmer weather is nice for keeping the heating bill down (we already keep the heat fairly cool for the winter anyways -- this is just bonus to have it not running so often). a lot of rain though, so i guess it's ok that we don't have to shovel it and it is safer for driving if we have to go out. Christmas is forecast to be above freezing and no snow on the ground. Wait until El Nino comes in early 2016! :O -- "Why eat ants when an uncle will do?" --Tymoutta Aardvarka of Sarcastica Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. |
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