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Maybe you didn't read my earlier statements. I am disagreeing with you,
buckwheat. You should not underestimate the potential of infectious diseases being spread by a trash pile and the vermin they attract. Its just like the vermin this thread attracts. You and Jim Bob should be dropped from the discussion. no one of importance wrote in message news:TfXdb.633582$o%2.291382@sccrnsc02... OK, maybe you didn't read the whole thread. I was agreeing with James that the idea of AIDS being passed by urinating in a compost pile was pretty much stupid and should be dropped. Philip "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message ... Since you are "no one of importance", we can ignore your request. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist like Reagan did, that's your personal prerogative and don't try to impose it on anyone else. no one of importance wrote in message news:ciRdb.626636$YN5.452308@sccrnsc01... Agreed. Let's let the AIDS thing drop. Philip "JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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Maybe I gave you credit for not being a cretin. I was wrong in that. Until
you have specialized in infectious disease, which I have, until you have more than an eighth-grade mentality, which you don't, until you have, in other words, a clue, don't come around with your spew. You're diatribe was meaningless. AIDS, or specifically HIV, cannot be spread by urinating into a trash pile. That was, and has been, my stance. HIV has specific transmission vectors, urine that is exposed to atmosphere is not one of them. Go away little creep. "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message . .. Maybe you didn't read my earlier statements. I am disagreeing with you, buckwheat. You should not underestimate the potential of infectious diseases being spread by a trash pile and the vermin they attract. Its just like the vermin this thread attracts. You and Jim Bob should be dropped from the discussion. no one of importance wrote in message news:TfXdb.633582$o%2.291382@sccrnsc02... OK, maybe you didn't read the whole thread. I was agreeing with James that the idea of AIDS being passed by urinating in a compost pile was pretty much stupid and should be dropped. Philip "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message ... Since you are "no one of importance", we can ignore your request. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist like Reagan did, that's your personal prerogative and don't try to impose it on anyone else. no one of importance wrote in message news:ciRdb.626636$YN5.452308@sccrnsc01... Agreed. Let's let the AIDS thing drop. Philip "JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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"Merl Turkin" wrote in message
... On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:40:27 -0400, dr-solo wrote: RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other diseases including some of the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid We're talking about using your OWN not other people's for starters. Don't spread FUD. And what about all those raccoons and rabbits. I just know they've been peeing in my garden. Then there's the neigbour's cat -- don't get me started. |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 02:27:59 -0400, JNJ wrote:
Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James Not it's not, if you are healthy your OWN pee is NOT TOXIC IN ANY WAY,SHAPE OR FORM. YOUR OWN. http://skepdic.com/urine.html |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:04:47 -0400, Cereoid-UR12- wrote:
Maybe you didn't read my earlier statements. I am disagreeing with you, buckwheat. You should not underestimate the potential of infectious diseases being spread by a trash pile and the vermin they attract. Its just like the vermin this thread attracts. You and Jim Bob should be dropped from the discussion. For Christ's sakes(tm), we're talking about a person's OWN URINE, not using everyone elses. If YOU are healthy YOUR OWN urine is TOTALLY SAFE TO USE. Research it for Pete's sakes. No healthy person has ever died from ingesting their own urine. Period. End of story. There is NOTHING in the urine of a healthy person that can harm or kill them. NOTHING. God damn it some of you are thick as hell. |
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Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the
thread is purely idiotic. Not it's not, if you are healthy your OWN pee is NOT TOXIC IN ANY WAY,SHAPE OR FORM. YOUR OWN. A) The statement you quote above is in reference to the sidebar thread suggesting that HIV can be transmitted via urinating into a compost pile. That is pure foolishness -- the virus is not transmitted via the urine. B) If you are healthy then it is still likely that there is a measure of toxicity in the urine. Stating otherwise is simply not true, no matter how much you wish it to be so. C) As noted previously in this thread and elsewhere, the likelihood that the contents of the urine that are not urea will have negative effects are likely nil. I still say the same as before though -- why bother? Compost piles do not need urine; the only benefit is from nitrogen which is just as easily added by simply throwing some bloodmeal on the pile. James |
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Dvd wrote:
We're talking about using your OWN not other people's for starters. Don't spread FUD. And what about all those raccoons and rabbits. I just know they've been peeing in my garden. Then there's the neigbour's cat -- don't get me started. OMFG! If there is one woe to top all my woes.... Above Tomato Worms... Above fire ants... Above RUGRATS! It's Cat****! Anything metal gets a fresh dose of it a few times a week.. They have to climb a 6 foot fence to **** on my garden trolls but apparently i'm worth the effort. Oh.. And this thread... Is from hell. Anyone have a spare IR night vision rifle scope they can lend me? Cruise - I like cats, it's their bodily functiosn I have issue with. Growing Poppies? http://www.poppyseed.org |
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Even though this is the dumbest thread I've ever read in here I still have to
ask this question... If you pee on your compost pile on a regular basis won't the salt content of your urine inhibit the growth the the benificial bacterias? Laura B. |
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Even though this is the dumbest thread I've ever read in here I still have
to ask this question... Amazing some of the tangents we get off on here on rec.gardens, isn't it? :) If you pee on your compost pile on a regular basis won't the salt content of your urine inhibit the growth the the benificial bacterias? Urine has been used for hundreds of years in this and other capacities. The key is moderation -- if one urinates on the compost pile several times a day repeatedly for several days then it will destroy the pile eventually. The idea is to help get things rolling in the pile -- just as easily accomplished by sprinkling some bloodmeal over your pile after adding a substantial amount of material. James |
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"JNJ" wrote in message ...
Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. Not it's not, if you are healthy your OWN pee is NOT TOXIC IN ANY WAY,SHAPE OR FORM. YOUR OWN. A) The statement you quote above is in reference to the sidebar thread suggesting that HIV can be transmitted via urinating into a compost pile. That is pure foolishness -- the virus is not transmitted via the urine. B) If you are healthy then it is still likely that there is a measure of toxicity in the urine. Stating otherwise is simply not true, no matter how much you wish it to be so. C) As noted previously in this thread and elsewhere, the likelihood that the contents of the urine that are not urea will have negative effects are likely nil. I still say the same as before though -- why bother? Compost piles do not need urine; the only benefit is from nitrogen which is just as easily added by simply throwing some bloodmeal on the pile. James I have to wonder how you all cope with manure, which contains lots and lots of pee. Also, I have found predator urine to be the only effective vole repellent in my garden. Would I be better off with vole manure on my cabbages instead? Are voles so much healthier than me, or the coyote that provides those expensive little urine bottles, or the horses that provide me with manure? |
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I have to wonder how you all cope with manure, which contains lots and
lots of pee. Also, I have found predator urine to be the only effective vole repellent in my garden. Would I be better off with vole manure on my cabbages instead? Are voles so much healthier than me, or the coyote that provides those expensive little urine bottles, or the horses that provide me with manure? In all likelihood, probably. When you start going into farm animals though you once again start getting more and more chemicals though. Something else worthy of noting here -- for folks that use chemicals in their garden this whole discussion is really unimportant. In the end, the toxic aspects of urine are unlikely to be of much concern. Bear in mind though -- raw excreta (feces or urine) have their own challenges in usability in the garden. But hey -- it's all good! :) James |
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"JNJ" wrote in message ...
I have to wonder how you all cope with manure, which contains lots and lots of pee. Also, I have found predator urine to be the only effective vole repellent in my garden. Would I be better off with vole manure on my cabbages instead? Are voles so much healthier than me, or the coyote that provides those expensive little urine bottles, or the horses that provide me with manure? In all likelihood, probably. When you start going into farm animals though you once again start getting more and more chemicals though. Something else worthy of noting here -- for folks that use chemicals in their garden this whole discussion is really unimportant. In the end, the toxic aspects of urine are unlikely to be of much concern. Yep. we all put manure from antibiotic-loaded farm animals. Nothing happens. We get rodents, who carry deadly viruses, relieving them in the garden. Birds flying overhead and hitting the lettuce. Nothing happens. Then one guy pees in the garden, the anal retentive part of the group is up in arms. |
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