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Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost pile.
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:42:58 -0400, Mogie wrote:
Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost pile. Urine is 95% water, 2.5% Urea and the rest is stuff you get in a normal diet. Healthy urine that is. As a kid you are brainwashed into thinking "pee pee nasty", "pee pee bad", it's total nonsense if you are healthy. |
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Caca, poo poo, pee pee to you too!!!
Just how many people are considered to be healthy nowadays, Merkle Turkle? How much uric acid is good for the compost pile? Is the urine still 95% water if you've been out drinking alcoholic beverages and abusing controlled substances all night? If you bladder is full, you might not make it all the way to the compost pile!!! If you really want to go organic, why not fart on your plants as an all-natural insecticide? Merl Turkin wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:42:58 -0400, Mogie wrote: Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost pile. Urine is 95% water, 2.5% Urea and the rest is stuff you get in a normal diet. Healthy urine that is. As a kid you are brainwashed into thinking "pee pee nasty", "pee pee bad", it's total nonsense if you are healthy. |
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Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost
pile. Maybe if it were pure, but nowadays.... :) There are a variety of chemicals in a person's urine that would probably not do well in a compost pile, especially if that person were on medications (both prescribed and, ahem, "social" medications or libations). Things such as fluoride (for example) will readily pass into urine, and unless you grow/raise your own foods there's no telling what chemicals are in the foods you eat and subsequently in you. That being said, urine has been used for centuries as a form of fertilizer (as has untreated excreta, both human and otherwise) -- in many countries it still is used as such. AFAIK, this is for it's nitrogen content. It's also used in medicinal and industrial applications. Either way, I don't think I'd use it on my compost pile -- in this case, it would be just as easy to pick up a bag of nitrogen to sprinkle over the pile. :) James |
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RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other diseases including some of
the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid Merl Turkin wrote: As a kid you are brainwashed into thinking "pee pee nasty", "pee pee bad", it's total nonsense if you are healthy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:40:27 -0400, dr-solo wrote:
RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other diseases including some of the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid We're talking about using your OWN not other people's for starters. Don't spread FUD. |
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This info came from the master gardener's. Would think they know what they
were talking about. Of course you don't line up strangers and have them pee in your compost pile. Of course you don't pee in the compost if you have AIDS either. Come on. JNJ wrote in message ... Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost pile. Maybe if it were pure, but nowadays.... :) There are a variety of chemicals in a person's urine that would probably not do well in a compost pile, especially if that person were on medications (both prescribed and, ahem, "social" medications or libations). Things such as fluoride (for example) will readily pass into urine, and unless you grow/raise your own foods there's no telling what chemicals are in the foods you eat and subsequently in you. That being said, urine has been used for centuries as a form of fertilizer (as has untreated excreta, both human and otherwise) -- in many countries it still is used as such. AFAIK, this is for it's nitrogen content. It's also used in medicinal and industrial applications. Either way, I don't think I'd use it on my compost pile -- in this case, it would be just as easy to pick up a bag of nitrogen to sprinkle over the pile. :) James -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Merl Turkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:42:58 -0400, Mogie wrote: Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost pile. Urine is 95% water, 2.5% Urea and the rest is stuff you get in a normal diet. Healthy urine that is. As a kid you are brainwashed into thinking "pee pee nasty", "pee pee bad", it's total nonsense if you are healthy. Honset Your Honor, I was not exposing myself. I was giving my compost pile a healthy golden shower. |
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This info came from the master gardener's. Would think they know what they
were talking about. That's a title one obtains primarily through volunteer work and a measure of training, all the result of a government based program. They are no more qualified nor expert than any of a number of other gardeners and they are certainly not qualified as chemists or horticulturists simply because they have completed an MG program. Programs are state sponsored and some are absolutely worthless while others are great. You'll find that many of the folks on this newsgroup are more experienced and knowledgeable than the average MG. Of course you don't line up strangers and have them pee in your compost pile. I would think not. Like I said in my post -- urine has been used for centuries in a similar manner, however in days gone by there were not as many chemicals in it so it was more "pure". Nowadays I wouldn't do it due to the variety of chemicals and such in what we consume (healthy or otherwise). Compost piles do just fine on their own -- if you want to add the same effect, just sprinkle some nitrogen and over it and you'll be fine. (Urine also contains phosphate,calcium, and various other minerals for that matter although I'd think it's the nitrogen you're after.) Hey -- if you REALLY want to get gung ho about it, go get a composting toilet or a septic system installed and go the whole nine yards. Ever notice how green the grass is around a septic system's leach field? :) Of course you don't pee in the compost if you have AIDS either. Come on. BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. James |
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"JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. James Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. Philip |
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".......... RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other
diseases including some of the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid ...........2 What a load of Garbage............I think this really is someone taking the ****....... -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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Of course its a load of garbage...........its the compost pile!!!
If you manage to get some vermin to take residence there, you can share all kinds of diseases with your neighbors!!! Wouldn't that be fun?!!!!! David Hill wrote in message ... ".......... RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other diseases including some of the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid ..........2 What a load of Garbage............I think this really is someone taking the ****....... -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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On 27 Sep 2003 11:31:33 GMT, Merl Turkin wrote:
x-On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:42:58 -0400, Mogie wrote: x- x- Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost x- pile. x- x- x-Urine is 95% water, 2.5% Urea and the rest is stuff you get in a normal x-diet. Healthy urine that is. As a kid you are brainwashed into thinking x-"pee pee nasty", "pee pee bad", it's total nonsense if you are healthy. AIDS is not transmittable in urine. Why not go all out and do like they do in a lot of foreign countries, and justuse all of the waste products, just pump that septic tank right out on the lawn and garden area. When I was in Korea, we had a row of porta potties set up along the military base perimeter fence line. There was perhaps 20 of them, and every day old pappa san would come in and pumpout these porta potties, and go outside the fence to his rice paddy and crop area and literally pump all this waste onto his crops. He had some mighty fine looking crops, however I would certainly not eat them. Its common for 3rd world countries to use human waste for fertilizer. Even that clown Jerry Baker the master of all master gardeners uses urine in his so called tonics....... -- Visit my website: Remove nospam for correct address http://www.nospamfrugalmachinist.com Contents: foundry and general metal working and lots of related projects. Regards Roy aka Chipmaker // Foxeye Opinions are strictly those of my wife....I have had no input whatsoever. Remove nospam from email address |
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Of course, none of YOUR friends could possibly have AIDS.
They would all come out and tell everyone if they had the dreaded disease, just like Rock Hudson and Liberace did!!!! It is even more humorous that your source of info is America's #1 master of masturbating gardeners, Jerry Baker himself. That mercenary "paragon of virtue" wouldn't be giving out bogus advice, would he? What's next? Advising that semen is good fertilizer for gymnosperms? Mogie wrote in message ... This info came from the master gardener's. Would think they know what they were talking about. Of course you don't line up strangers and have them pee in your compost pile. Of course you don't pee in the compost if you have AIDS either. Come on. JNJ wrote in message ... Heard at my composting class that human urine is good for the compost pile. Maybe if it were pure, but nowadays.... :) There are a variety of chemicals in a person's urine that would probably not do well in a compost pile, especially if that person were on medications (both prescribed and, ahem, "social" medications or libations). Things such as fluoride (for example) will readily pass into urine, and unless you grow/raise your own foods there's no telling what chemicals are in the foods you eat and subsequently in you. That being said, urine has been used for centuries as a form of fertilizer (as has untreated excreta, both human and otherwise) -- in many countries it still is used as such. AFAIK, this is for it's nitrogen content. It's also used in medicinal and industrial applications. Either way, I don't think I'd use it on my compost pile -- in this case, it would be just as easy to pick up a bag of nitrogen to sprinkle over the pile. :) James |
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He was making a general statement about how absurd it was to pass "do not urinate
everywhere" laws. I am saying there were very good reasons to pass these laws. I still yell at people when I see them hark and gob onto the sidewalks. That is how to spread TB. As for YOUR OWN pile to pee in, if there is run off into the sewers, which at least in Milwaukee runs off into the lake where we get our water from.... we had cows urinating in the cattle yards that lead to cryptosporidia into the water supply making 500,000 people sick. Our water treatment is now supposed to take care of the crypto, but viruses can be even harder to kill. It is not a minor thing. It is the viruses and bacteria we dont know about that are waiting in the wings, altho a virus like Hanta is a pretty good indicator. It is aquired from sweeping up mouse droppings. Ingrid On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:40:27 -0400, dr-solo wrote: RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other diseases including some of the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid Merl Turkin wrote: We're talking about using your OWN not other people's for starters. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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and in China where they take health care very seriously they installed a communal
toilet so they could heat the "night soil" up sufficiently high degree that it kills the transmissible diseases before it was used. Ingrid Roy wrote: When I was in Korea, we had a row of porta potties set up along the military base perimeter fence line. There was perhaps 20 of them, and every day old pappa san would come in and pumpout these porta potties, and go outside the fence to his rice paddy and crop area and literally pump all this waste onto his crops. He had some mighty fine looking crops, however I would certainly not eat them. Its common for 3rd world countries to use human waste for fertilizer. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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While it is true of HIV that it does not appear to be transmissible in urine, other
viruses do indeed survive in the air. For example, cold viruses are typically spread on door knobs and infectious virus of pox is present in the dried scabs. Ingrid Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. Philip ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Which is why I limited my remarks to HIV alone. I just get tired of the
stupid remarks around a disease that has the potential of destroying entire nations. Look into what's happened in Africa regarding HIV and the destruction of a couple of generations of people. One UN ag deputy minister went into Africa for a meeting with minister from Nigeria, IIRC (it may have been Zimbabwe) and was met by the country's Minister of Agriculture. This was highly unusual, the meeting was a low level one. The minister explained that normally he'd have sent several deputies, but they had all died of AIDS. He then went on to say that AIDS has so decimated his country's farmers that famine is pretty well assured. Well, off my soapbox now, Philip wrote in message ... While it is true of HIV that it does not appear to be transmissible in urine, other viruses do indeed survive in the air. For example, cold viruses are typically spread on door knobs and infectious virus of pox is present in the dried scabs. Ingrid Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. Philip |
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"Warren" wrote in message news:_NEdb.453390$Oz4.259045@rwcrnsc54... wrote: Compared to fecal matter, urine is relatively sterile. Hell, compared to sweat or tears or mucus or even hair, urine is relatively sterile. Yet some very popular soil amendments are composted cow, horse and chicken fecal matter. For some strange reason we have a greater fear of urine than we do of fecal matter, yet urine is far safer. Yours is the first reasonable and knowledgeable post I've seen in this thread. Lana |
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from "Cereoid-UR12-" contains these words: Of course, none of YOUR friends could possibly have AIDS. They would all come out and tell everyone if they had the dreaded disease, Yes, these days they probably would. Among work colleagues and socially I know several people who are open about their HIV positive or AIDS status. Denial and ignorance of disease transmission routes are no protection at all. It's in all our interest to be properly informed about how and where AIDS risk occurs; which is not from peeing in compost heaps. Janet |
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In article , Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from "Cereoid-UR12-" contains these words: Of course, none of YOUR friends could possibly have AIDS. They would all come out and tell everyone if they had the dreaded disease, Yes, these days they probably would. Among work colleagues and socially I know several people who are open about their HIV positive or AIDS status. Denial and ignorance of disease transmission routes are no protection at all. It's in all our interest to be properly informed about how and where AIDS risk occurs; which is not from peeing in compost heaps. Janet Well, if any people were buried in the compost pile to evade a police helicopter during the meth lab bust, & the criminals were just laying under the pile with their soar-encrusted mouths wide open, then when Crazy Uncle Snookies went out to the pile to take a whizz, he might pass along something. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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wrote in message ... RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other diseases including some of the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid Merl Turkin wrote: As a kid you are brainwashed into thinking "pee pee nasty", "pee pee bad", it's total nonsense if you are healthy. Ingrid you are mistaken. In most people most of the time urine is sterile. The only time it is not is if the owner has a urinary tract infection. The microorganisms that cause many diseases that are communicable by contact, exchanging bodily fliuids, droplets in sneezes, etc don't generally cross over from the blood stream to the urine. See here http://www.engenderhealth.org/ip/disease/dtm2.html In the case of the UTI the bugs mostly get into the urine and surrounding tissue from the outside via the urethra not by crossing from the blood. In the home situation you are much more likely to exchange microbes with each other by touching, kissing, breathing etc than contact with the urine of another. The chance of getting such via urine when you have not got it by any of the more common methods would be slim indeed. My estimation is that the risk is vanishingly small. David |
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For some strange reason we have a greater fear of urine
than we do of fecal matter, yet urine is far safer. BRBR Actually, if you have nothing better and are out with the Special Forces eating spiders (or lost in the woods) its a useful topical antiseptic. zemedelec |
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For some strange reason we have a greater fear of urine
than we do of fecal matter, yet urine is far safer. BRBR Actually, if you have nothing better and are out with the Special Forces eating spiders (or lost in the woods) its a useful topical antiseptic. zemedelec |
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BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little
different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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Agreed. Let's let the AIDS thing drop.
Philip "JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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Since you are "no one of importance", we can ignore your request.
If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist like Reagan did, that's your personal prerogative and don't try to impose it on anyone else. no one of importance wrote in message news:ciRdb.626636$YN5.452308@sccrnsc01... Agreed. Let's let the AIDS thing drop. Philip "JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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OK, maybe you didn't read the whole thread. I was agreeing with James that
the idea of AIDS being passed by urinating in a compost pile was pretty much stupid and should be dropped. Philip "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message ... Since you are "no one of importance", we can ignore your request. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist like Reagan did, that's your personal prerogative and don't try to impose it on anyone else. no one of importance wrote in message news:ciRdb.626636$YN5.452308@sccrnsc01... Agreed. Let's let the AIDS thing drop. Philip "JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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Maybe you didn't read my earlier statements. I am disagreeing with you,
buckwheat. You should not underestimate the potential of infectious diseases being spread by a trash pile and the vermin they attract. Its just like the vermin this thread attracts. You and Jim Bob should be dropped from the discussion. no one of importance wrote in message news:TfXdb.633582$o%2.291382@sccrnsc02... OK, maybe you didn't read the whole thread. I was agreeing with James that the idea of AIDS being passed by urinating in a compost pile was pretty much stupid and should be dropped. Philip "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message ... Since you are "no one of importance", we can ignore your request. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist like Reagan did, that's your personal prerogative and don't try to impose it on anyone else. no one of importance wrote in message news:ciRdb.626636$YN5.452308@sccrnsc01... Agreed. Let's let the AIDS thing drop. Philip "JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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Maybe I gave you credit for not being a cretin. I was wrong in that. Until
you have specialized in infectious disease, which I have, until you have more than an eighth-grade mentality, which you don't, until you have, in other words, a clue, don't come around with your spew. You're diatribe was meaningless. AIDS, or specifically HIV, cannot be spread by urinating into a trash pile. That was, and has been, my stance. HIV has specific transmission vectors, urine that is exposed to atmosphere is not one of them. Go away little creep. "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message . .. Maybe you didn't read my earlier statements. I am disagreeing with you, buckwheat. You should not underestimate the potential of infectious diseases being spread by a trash pile and the vermin they attract. Its just like the vermin this thread attracts. You and Jim Bob should be dropped from the discussion. no one of importance wrote in message news:TfXdb.633582$o%2.291382@sccrnsc02... OK, maybe you didn't read the whole thread. I was agreeing with James that the idea of AIDS being passed by urinating in a compost pile was pretty much stupid and should be dropped. Philip "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message ... Since you are "no one of importance", we can ignore your request. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist like Reagan did, that's your personal prerogative and don't try to impose it on anyone else. no one of importance wrote in message news:ciRdb.626636$YN5.452308@sccrnsc01... Agreed. Let's let the AIDS thing drop. Philip "JNJ" wrote in message ... BTW, being HIV positive and urinating on the pile would be little different than someone not infected doing the same. Nope, it wouldn't be "little different", it would be NO different. The virus doesn't live in air. You are incorrect. Most individuals who are HIV positive are also on a cocktail of medications to stay alive. Therefore the urine would not be the same -- there would be a variety of chemicals present that are not present in the urine of those not infected. Furthermore, each individual would likely not have the same biological processes, eating habits, and other factors that affect urine content. Ergo the statement that the two would be little different. Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James |
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"Merl Turkin" wrote in message
... On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:40:27 -0400, dr-solo wrote: RIGHT... and so it is. That is how polio and many other diseases including some of the hepatitis viruses get passed around. Ingrid We're talking about using your OWN not other people's for starters. Don't spread FUD. And what about all those raccoons and rabbits. I just know they've been peeing in my garden. Then there's the neigbour's cat -- don't get me started. |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 02:27:59 -0400, JNJ wrote:
Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the thread is purely idiotic. James Not it's not, if you are healthy your OWN pee is NOT TOXIC IN ANY WAY,SHAPE OR FORM. YOUR OWN. http://skepdic.com/urine.html |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:04:47 -0400, Cereoid-UR12- wrote:
Maybe you didn't read my earlier statements. I am disagreeing with you, buckwheat. You should not underestimate the potential of infectious diseases being spread by a trash pile and the vermin they attract. Its just like the vermin this thread attracts. You and Jim Bob should be dropped from the discussion. For Christ's sakes(tm), we're talking about a person's OWN URINE, not using everyone elses. If YOU are healthy YOUR OWN urine is TOTALLY SAFE TO USE. Research it for Pete's sakes. No healthy person has ever died from ingesting their own urine. Period. End of story. There is NOTHING in the urine of a healthy person that can harm or kill them. NOTHING. God damn it some of you are thick as hell. |
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Semantics aside, we're saying the same thing -- this aspect of the
thread is purely idiotic. Not it's not, if you are healthy your OWN pee is NOT TOXIC IN ANY WAY,SHAPE OR FORM. YOUR OWN. A) The statement you quote above is in reference to the sidebar thread suggesting that HIV can be transmitted via urinating into a compost pile. That is pure foolishness -- the virus is not transmitted via the urine. B) If you are healthy then it is still likely that there is a measure of toxicity in the urine. Stating otherwise is simply not true, no matter how much you wish it to be so. C) As noted previously in this thread and elsewhere, the likelihood that the contents of the urine that are not urea will have negative effects are likely nil. I still say the same as before though -- why bother? Compost piles do not need urine; the only benefit is from nitrogen which is just as easily added by simply throwing some bloodmeal on the pile. James |
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Dvd wrote:
We're talking about using your OWN not other people's for starters. Don't spread FUD. And what about all those raccoons and rabbits. I just know they've been peeing in my garden. Then there's the neigbour's cat -- don't get me started. OMFG! If there is one woe to top all my woes.... Above Tomato Worms... Above fire ants... Above RUGRATS! It's Cat****! Anything metal gets a fresh dose of it a few times a week.. They have to climb a 6 foot fence to **** on my garden trolls but apparently i'm worth the effort. Oh.. And this thread... Is from hell. Anyone have a spare IR night vision rifle scope they can lend me? Cruise - I like cats, it's their bodily functiosn I have issue with. Growing Poppies? http://www.poppyseed.org |
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Even though this is the dumbest thread I've ever read in here I still have to
ask this question... If you pee on your compost pile on a regular basis won't the salt content of your urine inhibit the growth the the benificial bacterias? Laura B. |
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In article ,
(Thalocean2) wrote: Even though this is the dumbest thread I've ever read in here I still have to ask this question... If you pee on your compost pile on a regular basis won't the salt content of your urine inhibit the growth the the benificial bacterias? Laura B. Possibly, & it should perhaps be thought of as a "soil ammendment" -- most of which would destroy the value of soils if used in excess. Urea crystals happen to be a normal component of the majority of commercial composts, so really nothing untoward so far as that goes. However, any spot that gets ****ed in a lot will encourage hazardous bacteria which stink to high heaven & can carry pathogens. It is a red herring that fresh urine is usually fairly sterile & harmless; as soon as it hits the compost heap it is no longer safe to drink, & it encourages ugly-ass types of funguses besides potentianally hazardous bacteria. There is a Humanure Handbook that tells how to recycle human waste into the garden, but neither an open pile nor a sess pool is quite the proper method. The handbook is available free as e-text: http://www.weblife.org/humanure/default.html There's a chapter on home-made composting toilets. Here's an additional nice little page on composting toilets as "the Rolls Royce of toilets": http://homepage.tinet.ie/~thehollies.../humanure.html and lots of info he http://www.compostingtoilet.org/ -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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