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New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
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I noticed a new gardening show, P. Allen Smith garden on PBS and it also seems to be in syndication on an abc affiliate here in the twin cities. So far, the shows seem to focus on classic garden design in the most traditional sense. The guy looks sort of like the John Tesh of gardening, but he has had a few good project suggestions and ideas so I will keep watching. Better than watching reruns of Victory Garden, which has gotten really pretty boring of late anyway. mm |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
the one I loved was the Perennial Gardener with a gray haired lady and it
seemed to come out of Minnesota or somewhere midwestern. We got it when Direct TV provided random PBS links to the station. Now that the option is gone, I am forced to get my local PBS which is fine most times, but haven't had the privilege of seeing that neat show. I had to stop watching Victory Garden for the first time in decades because I'm almost always scheduled to work on Saturdays. It hasn't the same feel since Roger Swain left and Russell Morash quit producing it. We won't get a flame started about Marion and her cooking. It's been done adn I'm aware that not everyone liked Marion. What I really miss is on Saturdays when I can't see Gardener's Diary with Erica Glasner on HGTV. And since the new year, they've changed the programming. Two Garden Guys which was rather unique, is no longer airing. They've moved up the garden shows in time, and I still haven't seen sign of rerunning Gardener's Diary for people who miss it's first run Saturdays. That it's repeats is fine for now, I've missed a lot of them over the last season due to my schedule, but that it's now airing at 1:30 instead of 3:30 is a bit of a stretch for me. I'll adjust somehow. With Squire gone on the road now, there won't be thoughtful reecordings of it for me when I get home on Saturdays. And oldest son doesn't always pay attention to the clock when he's plugged in upstairs on the computer. and I still wish Barbara Damrosch and her husband, Elliot Coleman would produce another "Gardening Naturally" show. It's more revelent now than it ever was. I watched it regularly on Discovery when it ran for those two or three years. .It was one of the best put out besides the Victory Garden at that time. Another good one was Backyard Gardening but Pat Simpson now has moved on and has a show on HGTV about Before and After. He used to be the projects guy for garden things on that show. Don't know what happened to the host of that show either. They come and go...... So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. PBS needs to take stock that there are still gardeners out there needing uninterrupted quality garden shows on the weekend! (I'd even watch on Sunday! It's bad enough they rerun Lawrence Welk here on our PBS every Saturday evening......) madgardener up on the very foggy ridge, back in Fairy Holler, unable to see English Mountain as it's socked in with clouds and fog, in Eastern TEnnessee, zone 7, Sunset zone 36 "mmarteen" wrote in message ... I noticed a new gardening show, P. Allen Smith garden on PBS and it also seems to be in syndication on an abc affiliate here in the twin cities. So far, the shows seem to focus on classic garden design in the most traditional sense. The guy looks sort of like the John Tesh of gardening, but he has had a few good project suggestions and ideas so I will keep watching. Better than watching reruns of Victory Garden, which has gotten really pretty boring of late anyway. mm |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be?
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New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
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New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
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New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:06:14 GMT, Cheryl Isaak
opined: I also really liked the older couple from Michigan (I think). They could be such a hoot! Those were the elderly couple from Watertown, NY. I think they were Brits. I don't imagine they are on any more. They were in their 80s 17 years ago! They always tripped over the dogs. I loved them. |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
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New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back
when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
Yeah I was happy to have the gardener's journal back even if in reruns.
It's such a great visual show that it is fun to see it again. Cathy Renwald is great at pointing out the little treasures here and there in the perennial border. Last year, I tried Angelica Gigas, although I planted it too late and hope for better luck from a wintered over plant I saved from last year. This year I am trying wild indigo (baptisia) thanks to the show. mm "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere
but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. Shit, if I spent that much in my backyard I'd have the Taj Mahal! It always seems that what these people get for their money is sparse, at best. I'm glad I'm a gardener and still young enough to do a lot of the work, myself. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:07:53 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere
but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. Shit, if I spent that much in my backyard I'd have the Taj Mahal! It always seems that what these people get for their money is sparse, at best. I'm glad I'm a gardener and still young enough to do a lot of the work, myself. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:07:53 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
"Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be? I wouldn't want the job of editing that script down to 60 minutes! ;) |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
"animaux" wrote in message ... What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. .... and how many times do these people pick the WORST of the three designs on that "Landscaper's Challenge" show on HGTV? |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
The Canada shows work well for much of the northeast and some for the
northwest but the southern shows really are only useful for a small part of the south. The Southwest is not shown at all and that is where you really need a good show to point out how to grow plants in an arid climate. I can't believe that places like Phenoix REQUIRE that you have grass in your front yard. That may have changed but that was how it was at one time. And I agree that the budgets for the make-over shows are unbelievable. It is possible that I have spent that much my entirely life (55 years) but I have a hard time believing it. Some of my favorite plants are those I rescued from the street where people had dug them up and thrown them away. My best trees are those that came up from seed and that I transplanted when there were no more than a foot tall or just let them grow where they were. My little white pine that I rescued from a neighbor when it was nothing more than a candle now towers over the 5' white pines that I planted at the same time. Our city now makes people cut up their yard waste before picking it up so I have lost my source of rescue plants..... Such a waste and such a loss of entertainment. DKat "animaux" wrote in message ... What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. Shit, if I spent that much in my backyard I'd have the Taj Mahal! It always seems that what these people get for their money is sparse, at best. I'm glad I'm a gardener and still young enough to do a lot of the work, myself. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:07:53 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
ROFLMAO.................Fairies, flowers and middle-aged Southern women with
obsessive gardening tendencies........oh oh wait, better yet, "Home for wayward fairies, loony and obsessive gardeners" GBSEG yer too kind sugar! ((hug)) madgardener up on the chilly ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking English Mountain in Eastern Tennessee, where we're back to winter, zone 7, Sunset zone 36 "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be? |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
You got that right!! (you should run into me in Outside Lawn and Garden at
the Lowe's I work at! GBSEG maddie "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be? I wouldn't want the job of editing that script down to 60 minutes! ;) |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
ROFLMAO.................Fairies, flowers and middle-aged Southern women with
obsessive gardening tendencies........oh oh wait, better yet, "Home for wayward fairies, loony and obsessive gardeners" GBSEG yer too kind sugar! ((hug)) madgardener up on the chilly ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking English Mountain in Eastern Tennessee, where we're back to winter, zone 7, Sunset zone 36 "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be? |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
You got that right!! (you should run into me in Outside Lawn and Garden at
the Lowe's I work at! GBSEG maddie "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be? I wouldn't want the job of editing that script down to 60 minutes! ;) |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:03:48 GMT, "Vox Humana" opined:
... and how many times do these people pick the WORST of the three designs on that "Landscaper's Challenge" show on HGTV? Well, the one I saw this past weekend showed a single woman and they built her an outdoor fireplace and painted it this disgusting color yellow. This design was somehow supposed to represent her Italian heritage. I can see terra cotta, but the designer though since he gave her Rosemary 'Tuscany Blue' it was a Tuscan garden. NOT! Eh. V |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
Ya know what's interesting....when I go into shops now and look at plants which
are full grown. I compare them to my full grown plants. Then I look at the price. I have to say that buying plants small and letting time make them sizeable is the single most cost effective way to make your property worth more. I saw a plumeria the other day as large as mine (8feet with three lateral branches) and it was 200 dollars. I don't know "who" would pay that, but it only took my 5 dollar, 6" pot size plumeria two years to get that large. I've seen brugmansia in 10 inch pots for THREE HUNDRED dollars! Of course, that is at a very exclusive garden center in Austin called "GARDENS." So, now I am propagating cuttings and making money for my habit. As for grass in Arizona, it's the dumbest I've ever seen. That and big, annoying rose gardens using new roses, not even old fashioned. Yick. My landscape has way more than 75% native plants and everyone who sees it thinks it's a tropical looking garden. There is nothing tropical in it, unless you consider cannas. However, they are hardy perennials here. So, I suppose we're lucky to have a local garden show on PBS called Central Texas Gardener. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:39:19 GMT, "D Kat" opined: The Canada shows work well for much of the northeast and some for the northwest but the southern shows really are only useful for a small part of the south. The Southwest is not shown at all and that is where you really need a good show to point out how to grow plants in an arid climate. I can't believe that places like Phenoix REQUIRE that you have grass in your front yard. That may have changed but that was how it was at one time. And I agree that the budgets for the make-over shows are unbelievable. It is possible that I have spent that much my entirely life (55 years) but I have a hard time believing it. Some of my favorite plants are those I rescued from the street where people had dug them up and thrown them away. My best trees are those that came up from seed and that I transplanted when there were no more than a foot tall or just let them grow where they were. My little white pine that I rescued from a neighbor when it was nothing more than a candle now towers over the 5' white pines that I planted at the same time. Our city now makes people cut up their yard waste before picking it up so I have lost my source of rescue plants..... Such a waste and such a loss of entertainment. DKat "animaux" wrote in message .. . What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. Shit, if I spent that much in my backyard I'd have the Taj Mahal! It always seems that what these people get for their money is sparse, at best. I'm glad I'm a gardener and still young enough to do a lot of the work, myself. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:07:53 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:03:48 GMT, "Vox Humana" opined:
... and how many times do these people pick the WORST of the three designs on that "Landscaper's Challenge" show on HGTV? Well, the one I saw this past weekend showed a single woman and they built her an outdoor fireplace and painted it this disgusting color yellow. This design was somehow supposed to represent her Italian heritage. I can see terra cotta, but the designer though since he gave her Rosemary 'Tuscany Blue' it was a Tuscan garden. NOT! Eh. V |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
Ya know what's interesting....when I go into shops now and look at plants which
are full grown. I compare them to my full grown plants. Then I look at the price. I have to say that buying plants small and letting time make them sizeable is the single most cost effective way to make your property worth more. I saw a plumeria the other day as large as mine (8feet with three lateral branches) and it was 200 dollars. I don't know "who" would pay that, but it only took my 5 dollar, 6" pot size plumeria two years to get that large. I've seen brugmansia in 10 inch pots for THREE HUNDRED dollars! Of course, that is at a very exclusive garden center in Austin called "GARDENS." So, now I am propagating cuttings and making money for my habit. As for grass in Arizona, it's the dumbest I've ever seen. That and big, annoying rose gardens using new roses, not even old fashioned. Yick. My landscape has way more than 75% native plants and everyone who sees it thinks it's a tropical looking garden. There is nothing tropical in it, unless you consider cannas. However, they are hardy perennials here. So, I suppose we're lucky to have a local garden show on PBS called Central Texas Gardener. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:39:19 GMT, "D Kat" opined: The Canada shows work well for much of the northeast and some for the northwest but the southern shows really are only useful for a small part of the south. The Southwest is not shown at all and that is where you really need a good show to point out how to grow plants in an arid climate. I can't believe that places like Phenoix REQUIRE that you have grass in your front yard. That may have changed but that was how it was at one time. And I agree that the budgets for the make-over shows are unbelievable. It is possible that I have spent that much my entirely life (55 years) but I have a hard time believing it. Some of my favorite plants are those I rescued from the street where people had dug them up and thrown them away. My best trees are those that came up from seed and that I transplanted when there were no more than a foot tall or just let them grow where they were. My little white pine that I rescued from a neighbor when it was nothing more than a candle now towers over the 5' white pines that I planted at the same time. Our city now makes people cut up their yard waste before picking it up so I have lost my source of rescue plants..... Such a waste and such a loss of entertainment. DKat "animaux" wrote in message .. . What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. Shit, if I spent that much in my backyard I'd have the Taj Mahal! It always seems that what these people get for their money is sparse, at best. I'm glad I'm a gardener and still young enough to do a lot of the work, myself. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:07:53 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
Yes, I think what people tend to forget is that the larger the plant the
larger the root loss and the longer for recovery. I had always read that smaller plants do better but it really never hit home until I experienced first hand with the 1' tree vs the 5' tree. I still have a hard time believing that the little thing managed to outgrow almost every one of the 5footers I put in that year. Cuttings are magic. My problem has been that I tend to get absentminded and not to baby them as I should that first year and they die off on me. I'm told that you really need to have a special spot put aside just for your cuttings where they don't have to compete with anything and then transplant them. I suppose if you did that for just the first year you would minimize the root damage of transplanting..... DKat "animaux" wrote in message ... Ya know what's interesting....when I go into shops now and look at plants which are full grown. I compare them to my full grown plants. Then I look at the price. I have to say that buying plants small and letting time make them sizeable is the single most cost effective way to make your property worth more. I saw a plumeria the other day as large as mine (8feet with three lateral branches) and it was 200 dollars. I don't know "who" would pay that, but it only took my 5 dollar, 6" pot size plumeria two years to get that large. I've seen brugmansia in 10 inch pots for THREE HUNDRED dollars! Of course, that is at a very exclusive garden center in Austin called "GARDENS." So, now I am propagating cuttings and making money for my habit. As for grass in Arizona, it's the dumbest I've ever seen. That and big, annoying rose gardens using new roses, not even old fashioned. Yick. My landscape has way more than 75% native plants and everyone who sees it thinks it's a tropical looking garden. There is nothing tropical in it, unless you consider cannas. However, they are hardy perennials here. So, I suppose we're lucky to have a local garden show on PBS called Central Texas Gardener. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:39:19 GMT, "D Kat" opined: The Canada shows work well for much of the northeast and some for the northwest but the southern shows really are only useful for a small part of the south. The Southwest is not shown at all and that is where you really need a good show to point out how to grow plants in an arid climate. I can't believe that places like Phenoix REQUIRE that you have grass in your front yard. That may have changed but that was how it was at one time. And I agree that the budgets for the make-over shows are unbelievable. It is possible that I have spent that much my entirely life (55 years) but I have a hard time believing it. Some of my favorite plants are those I rescued from the street where people had dug them up and thrown them away. My best trees are those that came up from seed and that I transplanted when there were no more than a foot tall or just let them grow where they were. My little white pine that I rescued from a neighbor when it was nothing more than a candle now towers over the 5' white pines that I planted at the same time. Our city now makes people cut up their yard waste before picking it up so I have lost my source of rescue plants..... Such a waste and such a loss of entertainment. DKat "animaux" wrote in message .. . What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. Shit, if I spent that much in my backyard I'd have the Taj Mahal! It always seems that what these people get for their money is sparse, at best. I'm glad I'm a gardener and still young enough to do a lot of the work, myself. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:07:53 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
Yes, I think what people tend to forget is that the larger the plant the
larger the root loss and the longer for recovery. I had always read that smaller plants do better but it really never hit home until I experienced first hand with the 1' tree vs the 5' tree. I still have a hard time believing that the little thing managed to outgrow almost every one of the 5footers I put in that year. Cuttings are magic. My problem has been that I tend to get absentminded and not to baby them as I should that first year and they die off on me. I'm told that you really need to have a special spot put aside just for your cuttings where they don't have to compete with anything and then transplant them. I suppose if you did that for just the first year you would minimize the root damage of transplanting..... DKat "animaux" wrote in message ... Ya know what's interesting....when I go into shops now and look at plants which are full grown. I compare them to my full grown plants. Then I look at the price. I have to say that buying plants small and letting time make them sizeable is the single most cost effective way to make your property worth more. I saw a plumeria the other day as large as mine (8feet with three lateral branches) and it was 200 dollars. I don't know "who" would pay that, but it only took my 5 dollar, 6" pot size plumeria two years to get that large. I've seen brugmansia in 10 inch pots for THREE HUNDRED dollars! Of course, that is at a very exclusive garden center in Austin called "GARDENS." So, now I am propagating cuttings and making money for my habit. As for grass in Arizona, it's the dumbest I've ever seen. That and big, annoying rose gardens using new roses, not even old fashioned. Yick. My landscape has way more than 75% native plants and everyone who sees it thinks it's a tropical looking garden. There is nothing tropical in it, unless you consider cannas. However, they are hardy perennials here. So, I suppose we're lucky to have a local garden show on PBS called Central Texas Gardener. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:39:19 GMT, "D Kat" opined: The Canada shows work well for much of the northeast and some for the northwest but the southern shows really are only useful for a small part of the south. The Southwest is not shown at all and that is where you really need a good show to point out how to grow plants in an arid climate. I can't believe that places like Phenoix REQUIRE that you have grass in your front yard. That may have changed but that was how it was at one time. And I agree that the budgets for the make-over shows are unbelievable. It is possible that I have spent that much my entirely life (55 years) but I have a hard time believing it. Some of my favorite plants are those I rescued from the street where people had dug them up and thrown them away. My best trees are those that came up from seed and that I transplanted when there were no more than a foot tall or just let them grow where they were. My little white pine that I rescued from a neighbor when it was nothing more than a candle now towers over the 5' white pines that I planted at the same time. Our city now makes people cut up their yard waste before picking it up so I have lost my source of rescue plants..... Such a waste and such a loss of entertainment. DKat "animaux" wrote in message .. . What I don't understand is how they think these generic shows will fit anywhere but California, Atlanta or Canada. I know those are highly populated regions, but there's a whole continent North America! I'd love if they would have shows more specific for more selections of zones and regions. I don't mind the make-over garden shows, but when you hear, "she only has a $20,000 dollar budget..." I want to puke. Shit, if I spent that much in my backyard I'd have the Taj Mahal! It always seems that what these people get for their money is sparse, at best. I'm glad I'm a gardener and still young enough to do a lot of the work, myself. Victoria On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:07:53 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Gardener's Journal and Gardener's Diary were also my favorite shows. Back when HGTV first started it had a lot of garden shows but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. Now I rarely find either showing when I can watch them. DKat "RichardB" wrote in message ... In article , says... [...] So I stick to Gardening by the yard when I remember it's airing early. Gardener's Diary which is my absolute favorite now, and keep hoping they bring back Gardener's Journal which was the Canadian show that was awesome too. That one kinda slipped away last year on HGTV. Gardener's Diary is my favorite too, and has been for some time. I missed it last weekend because I hadn't noticed the time change but got it yesterday (I always tape it and watch it later). Gardener's Journal is now being shown at 7 AM Monday through Friday. They're all repeats I think, but it's nice to have the program available again. Richard in Northern California |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
bah, just think, you wouldn't even have to edit (too much), just put some
breaks in and you could film an entire season's worth of show in one sitting! And considering some of the lame stuff they show on TV these days, you could easily make something 100x better. "John Catron" wrote in : You got that right!! (you should run into me in Outside Lawn and Garden at the Lowe's I work at! GBSEG maddie "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be? I wouldn't want the job of editing that script down to 60 minutes! ;) |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
bah, just think, you wouldn't even have to edit (too much), just put some
breaks in and you could film an entire season's worth of show in one sitting! And considering some of the lame stuff they show on TV these days, you could easily make something 100x better. "John Catron" wrote in : You got that right!! (you should run into me in Outside Lawn and Garden at the Lowe's I work at! GBSEG maddie "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... You should have your own show MG, how cool would that be? I wouldn't want the job of editing that script down to 60 minutes! ;) |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
"Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... bah, just think, you wouldn't even have to edit (too much), just put some breaks in and you could film an entire season's worth of show in one sitting! And considering some of the lame stuff they show on TV these days, you could easily make something 100x better. I suppose the PBS could run one episode for their entire two week pledge marathon! |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern
tacky decoration and crafts shows. We tacky s'uthuners resemble that! ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Apples and Oranges: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville! Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL = 6850 -- Bob Lilienfield |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:30:45 GMT, "D Kat" opined:
Yes, I think what people tend to forget is that the larger the plant the larger the root loss and the longer for recovery. I had always read that smaller plants do better but it really never hit home until I experienced first hand with the 1' tree vs the 5' tree. I still have a hard time believing that the little thing managed to outgrow almost every one of the 5footers I put in that year. Cuttings are magic. My problem has been that I tend to get absentminded and not to baby them as I should that first year and they die off on me. I'm told that you really need to have a special spot put aside just for your cuttings where they don't have to compete with anything and then transplant them. I suppose if you did that for just the first year you would minimize the root damage of transplanting..... DKat In my experience both professionally and personally, planting anything in the fall can almost completely eliminate any and all problems of transplant shock. All perennials have some part of their structure growing all winter. Trees develop roots all year, especially in winter, in the south. In my case, I have a greenhouse. It's big enough to have a little misting area set up for cuttings. I'm fortunate to have a wide array of local garden centers who love native plants and some exotic specimens like brugmansia, so I have a source to sell them to. I normally trade for the most excellently produced compost in America. The Natural Gardener in Austin makes their compost the way Dr. Elaine Ingham prescribes on her website, www.soilfoodweb.com |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:30:45 GMT, "D Kat" opined:
Yes, I think what people tend to forget is that the larger the plant the larger the root loss and the longer for recovery. I had always read that smaller plants do better but it really never hit home until I experienced first hand with the 1' tree vs the 5' tree. I still have a hard time believing that the little thing managed to outgrow almost every one of the 5footers I put in that year. Cuttings are magic. My problem has been that I tend to get absentminded and not to baby them as I should that first year and they die off on me. I'm told that you really need to have a special spot put aside just for your cuttings where they don't have to compete with anything and then transplant them. I suppose if you did that for just the first year you would minimize the root damage of transplanting..... DKat In my experience both professionally and personally, planting anything in the fall can almost completely eliminate any and all problems of transplant shock. All perennials have some part of their structure growing all winter. Trees develop roots all year, especially in winter, in the south. In my case, I have a greenhouse. It's big enough to have a little misting area set up for cuttings. I'm fortunate to have a wide array of local garden centers who love native plants and some exotic specimens like brugmansia, so I have a source to sell them to. I normally trade for the most excellently produced compost in America. The Natural Gardener in Austin makes their compost the way Dr. Elaine Ingham prescribes on her website, www.soilfoodweb.com |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
I want a greenhouse (greenhouse envy grows rapidly).... MUST HAVE GREEN
HOUSE ...... "animaux" wrote in message ... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:30:45 GMT, "D Kat" opined: Yes, I think what people tend to forget is that the larger the plant the larger the root loss and the longer for recovery. I had always read that smaller plants do better but it really never hit home until I experienced first hand with the 1' tree vs the 5' tree. I still have a hard time believing that the little thing managed to outgrow almost every one of the 5footers I put in that year. Cuttings are magic. My problem has been that I tend to get absentminded and not to baby them as I should that first year and they die off on me. I'm told that you really need to have a special spot put aside just for your cuttings where they don't have to compete with anything and then transplant them. I suppose if you did that for just the first year you would minimize the root damage of transplanting..... DKat In my experience both professionally and personally, planting anything in the fall can almost completely eliminate any and all problems of transplant shock. All perennials have some part of their structure growing all winter. Trees develop roots all year, especially in winter, in the south. In my case, I have a greenhouse. It's big enough to have a little misting area set up for cuttings. I'm fortunate to have a wide array of local garden centers who love native plants and some exotic specimens like brugmansia, so I have a source to sell them to. I normally trade for the most excellently produced compost in America. The Natural Gardener in Austin makes their compost the way Dr. Elaine Ingham prescribes on her website, www.soilfoodweb.com |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
I'm sorry... I didn't mean to imply that southerners were tacky.... they
have tacky northern stuff too... its just that the tacky shows are based out of the south .... 8(..... (so glad southerners have good sense of fun and humor).... "Jim Lewis" wrote in message ... but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. We tacky s'uthuners resemble that! ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Apples and Oranges: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville! Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL = 6850 -- Bob Lilienfield |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
"D Kat" wrote in message
et... Yes, I think what people tend to forget is that the larger the plant the larger the root loss and the longer for recovery. I had always read that smaller plants do better but it really never hit home until I experienced first hand with the 1' tree vs the 5' tree. I still have a hard time believing that the little thing managed to outgrow almost every one of the 5footers I put in that year. The probable reason many people go for the "big" plants is because they want instant gratification. I was at a local garden center this week and watched a woman load her cart with a half dozen big plants in full bloom, passing over the ones that were in bud and just beginning to open. I was about to say something but resisted because it was obvious she could afford her purchases. Many people treat purchased plants in the same manner they treat cut flowers. When the blossoms fade, they are discarded. That's definitely a plus for growers! G Cuttings are magic. My problem has been that I tend to get absentminded and not to baby them as I should that first year and they die off on me. I'm told that you really need to have a special spot put aside just for your cuttings where they don't have to compete with anything and then transplant them. I suppose if you did that for just the first year you would minimize the root damage of transplanting..... DKat I agree with you about the magic of cuttings. I start many cuttings from shrubs that are sold at a fund raiser for our garden club, concentrating on those that do well in our area. I start them one spring and they are sold that fall or the following spring. The only cuttings I've had survival problems with are viburnums that I started in the spring and planted in the fall. If they are held until the following spring or fall, they generally survive in their new homes. Once the cuttings root, I really baby them, which means I usually have 90% survival rate. Occasionally I have a healthy, rooted cutting die, which really irritates me. I contacted a friend who teaches propagation classes at an area university to ask why they failed. The gist of her reply was "s**t happens! G John |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
"D Kat" wrote in message et... The Canada shows work well for much of the northeast and some for the northwest but the southern shows really are only useful for a small part of the south. The Southwest is not shown at all and that is where you really need a good show to point out how to grow plants in an arid climate. I [snip] I love the Gardener's journal, but for a show on canada, Kathy never seems to make it lower than zone 5 and seems to spend a lot of show in places like niagra on the lake or places that are even warmer. Just once I would have liked to see the show profile gardening in Alberta or Manitoba. There was a Minnesota based show sponsored by the horticultural society and the U of MN but it doesn't seem to be on any more, probably axed by budget cuts. The Great Lakes Gardener is a joke. I watched a couple of episodes and when the host spent a whole show at a hardware store trying out different chainsaws I gave up watching. Gardening by the Yard on HGTV is done in Oklahoma and amid all the jokes, the guy seems to highlight plants that are good for hot arid climates. mm |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:59:35 GMT, "D Kat" opined:
I want a greenhouse (greenhouse envy grows rapidly).... MUST HAVE GREEN HOUSE ...... Yes, a greenhouse is a delightful thing! Mine is 10'x20' and I wish it was bigger. This year I built shelves which gives me much more space than I had. Living in a southern state makes it easier to heat in winter to keep frost out of there. Last night I put the heater on just in case. We have a light frost this morning. My greenhouse was relatively inexpensive at about 700 dollars. They have more expensive hard sided houses made of polycarbonate, but I love mine. V |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
alright, ya'll are ganging up on me........no fair.......ZHANNNNNN??
They're picking on me! G I realize I DO ramble on sometimes. or rather in the words of Squire "honey, you go into way too much DETAIL!!!!!" madgardener "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... bah, just think, you wouldn't even have to edit (too much), just put some breaks in and you could film an entire season's worth of show in one sitting! And considering some of the lame stuff they show on TV these days, you could easily make something 100x better. I suppose the PBS could run one episode for their entire two week pledge marathon! |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
alright, ya'll are ganging up on me........no fair.......ZHANNNNNN??
They're picking on me! G I realize I DO ramble on sometimes. or rather in the words of Squire "honey, you go into way too much DETAIL!!!!!" madgardener "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... bah, just think, you wouldn't even have to edit (too much), just put some breaks in and you could film an entire season's worth of show in one sitting! And considering some of the lame stuff they show on TV these days, you could easily make something 100x better. I suppose the PBS could run one episode for their entire two week pledge marathon! |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
alright, ya'll are ganging up on me........no fair.......ZHANNNNNN??
They're picking on me! G I realize I DO ramble on sometimes. or rather in the words of Squire "honey, you go into way too much DETAIL!!!!!" madgardener "Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Salty Thumb" wrote in message ... bah, just think, you wouldn't even have to edit (too much), just put some breaks in and you could film an entire season's worth of show in one sitting! And considering some of the lame stuff they show on TV these days, you could easily make something 100x better. I suppose the PBS could run one episode for their entire two week pledge marathon! |
New show on PBS, P. Allen Smith?
"Jim Lewis" wrote in message ... but then they seemed to be entirely taken over by southern tacky decoration and crafts shows. We tacky s'uthuners resemble that! ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Apples and Oranges: A Demonstration -- Welcome to Hooterville! Population: 2000. Elevation: 3000. Established: 1850. TOTAL = 6850 -- Bob Lilienfield My garden flamingo's that Zhan has brought me agree!! (then add the fairies that perch on or near the BBQ pit fountain, the stakes that look like frogs made of metal and large green glass shooter marbles for eyes stuck into pots of perennials out front and the rainbow wind thing that turns and moves with the rudder, and tacky Southern is one of my many identifiable markings! The only thing I DON'T have is the painted, turned inside out of cut tire for a planter............which actually works quite well as it's raised, insulated by the rubber and doesn't have to be painted white. I'd personally love to have one of them as an instant bed.............. madgardener who has quite a flock of flamingo's growing up on the ridge, back in fairy holler in Eastern Tennessee |
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