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The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks

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I'd go about 6-8" deep with a 1/2" or larger bit (preferably auger)
using an electric drill.

Then I fill the holes with diesel and give it about 15 minutes to
saturate the stump. Repeat once more than lite it.

After a few days there won't be a stump.

Don't do it if the surrounding area is "at risk" of also catching on
fire.

Another method is to cover the stump with charcoal and lite it. The
charcoal will burn out the stump.

) wrote in message . com...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks

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Or you could just do the most logical and easy thing, rent a stump grinder

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$1.00 worth of diesel or $75 rental fee + 2 round trips to the rental
yard.

Sounds like a no-brainer to me!!

On 3 Jun 2004 18:55:38 -0700, (Chet Hayes)
wrote:

Or you could just do the most logical and easy thing, rent a stump grinder

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If you have the right type of tree why not consider mushroom plugs.
You can harvest mushrooms for a few years then the stump turns to mush
you can scoop up with a shovel and compost.

http://www.mycosource.com/shiilogs.htm
http://www.fungi.com/plugs/index.html

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The stuff I got at home depot says to drill 1" wide, 12" deep, and then make
a sideways hole at a downward angle that joins the straight down hole in the
stump. I just drilled 3 or 4 straight down holes using a 1" wood spade bit,
about 8" deep. My tree stump was something hard, so I used a corded
milwaukee 1/2" drill. I started with my 18V Bosch, but I knew that would
die quickly because of the hardness of the stump

" wrote in message
om...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks

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And what chemical would destroy the stump?

i

In article , Evan Mann wrote:
The stuff I got at home depot says to drill 1" wide, 12" deep, and then make
a sideways hole at a downward angle that joins the straight down hole in the
stump. I just drilled 3 or 4 straight down holes using a 1" wood spade bit,
about 8" deep. My tree stump was something hard, so I used a corded
milwaukee 1/2" drill. I started with my 18V Bosch, but I knew that would
die quickly because of the hardness of the stump

" wrote in message
om...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks

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davefr wrote in message . ..
$1.00 worth of diesel or $75 rental fee + 2 round trips to the rental
yard.

Sounds like a no-brainer to me!!

On 3 Jun 2004 18:55:38 -0700, (Chet Hayes)
wrote:

Or you could just do the most logical and easy thing, rent a stump grinder


Yeah, $1.00 worth of diesel, a couple days spent watching and tending
it while trying to burn it, getting permits for an outdoor fire or
paying the resulting fines in most municipalities, worrying that the
fire may spread somewhere else, then finally renting the stump grinder
when it won't burn away.

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 19:31:06 -0700, davefr wrote:

$1.00 worth of diesel or $75 rental fee + 2 round trips to the rental
yard.

Sounds like a no-brainer to me!!

Of course, some people don't care much for the idea of pumping diesel down into
their soil either. ;)

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"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
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i

In article , Evan Mann
wrote:
The stuff I got at home depot says to drill 1" wide, 12" deep, and then
make
a sideways hole at a downward angle that joins the straight down hole in
the
stump. I just drilled 3 or 4 straight down holes using a 1" wood spade
bit,
about 8" deep. My tree stump was something hard, so I used a corded
milwaukee 1/2" drill. I started with my 18V Bosch, but I knew that
would
die quickly because of the hardness of the stump

" wrote in message
om...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks




And what chemical would destroy the stump?

Potassium nitrate.

--

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In article , PrecisionMachinisT wrote:

"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...

i

In article , Evan Mann
wrote:
The stuff I got at home depot says to drill 1" wide, 12" deep, and then
make
a sideways hole at a downward angle that joins the straight down hole in
the
stump. I just drilled 3 or 4 straight down holes using a 1" wood spade
bit,
about 8" deep. My tree stump was something hard, so I used a corded
milwaukee 1/2" drill. I started with my 18V Bosch, but I knew that
would
die quickly because of the hardness of the stump

" wrote in message
om...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks




And what chemical would destroy the stump?

Potassium nitrate.


and where could I buy it?

i

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 12:28:14 -0500, John Hines
wrote:

) wrote:

The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks

3/4" self feed auger bit, in a hand drill. Don't need to go terribly
deep, standard 6" bit will do.

Thanks to all for responding.

The bit was $24 at Lowe's. The cheapest drill to handle it was $89.
(They tried to sell me a drill for $199.) Worst of all, the potassium
nitrate instructions said it would take 4-6 MONTHS to soften the wood
for burning. The internet led me to believe it would take 4-6 WEEKS.

Can't rent a grinder because I have no truck to transport it back and
forth.

So it's back to the old method I used for the other stumps: An ax and
a lot of sweat. There are only 3 stumps remaining anyway.

Sure woulda been nice to find an easier method. At age 60, swinging
that ax beats the hell out of my hands and wrist joints.

Thanks again.

Jack

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"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...
In article , PrecisionMachinisT wrote:

"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...

i

In article , Evan Mann
wrote:
The stuff I got at home depot says to drill 1" wide, 12" deep, and
then
make
a sideways hole at a downward angle that joins the straight down hole
in
the
stump. I just drilled 3 or 4 straight down holes using a 1" wood
spade
bit,
about 8" deep. My tree stump was something hard, so I used a corded
milwaukee 1/2" drill. I started with my 18V Bosch, but I knew that
would
die quickly because of the hardness of the stump

" wrote in message
om...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down
the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks




And what chemical would destroy the stump?

Potassium nitrate.


and where could I buy it?


Hardware store, plant nursery, or at the home and garden dept at many
variety stores--labeled as "Stump Remover"--read the label, diesel or other
hydrocarbon fuel will help if you intend to later burn the stump.

Bulk quantities are available at wholesale chemical houses and pyrotechnic
materials suppliers........

Beware, stump removal grade is *not* generally not pure enough for
pyrotechnic use, so suggest dont get any bright ideas about making
explosives or other 4th of July demonstrations with it.

Enuff said ???

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On 4 Jun 2004 16:41:11 GMT, Ignoramus32760
opined:


and where could I buy it?

i

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not to get it on
anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In addition to the nitrogen
fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag of sugar on the stump to seep into
the holes you drill. The carbon in the sugar will help expedite the process


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In article , PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
Potassium nitrate.


and where could I buy it?


Hardware store, plant nursery, or at the home and garden dept at many
variety stores--labeled as "Stump Remover"--read the label, diesel or other
hydrocarbon fuel will help if you intend to later burn the stump.

So, the basic idea is, drill holes, pour KNO3 powder, add diesel fuel?

Wouldn't that be an immediate fire hazard?

Bulk quantities are available at wholesale chemical houses and pyrotechnic
materials suppliers........

cool.

Beware, stump removal grade is *not* generally not pure enough for
pyrotechnic use, so suggest dont get any bright ideas about making
explosives or other 4th of July demonstrations with it.

I already had those bright ideas...

How about ammonium nitrate, can it be bought? I used it in Russia in
my garden all the time.

i


Enuff said ???

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"escapee" wrote in message
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On 4 Jun 2004 16:41:11 GMT, Ignoramus32760

opined:


and where could I buy it?

i

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not to get
it on
anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In addition to the
nitrogen
fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag of sugar on the stump to seep
into
the holes you drill. The carbon in the sugar will help expedite the
process



Yup....

In composting of woody material, nitrogen is needed--if not available in the
form of green clippings it can be always be added in chemical form.

Not sure about the sugar though, as in this case there is already plenty of
carbon in the stump.

--

SVL

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In article , escapee wrote:

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not
to get it on anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In
addition to the nitrogen fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag
of sugar on the stump to seep into the holes you drill. The carbon
in the sugar will help expedite the process

How is a high nitrogen fertiliser labeled?It is not 10-10-10, right?

i

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"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...
In article , PrecisionMachinisT wrote:
Potassium nitrate.


and where could I buy it?


Hardware store, plant nursery, or at the home and garden dept at many
variety stores--labeled as "Stump Remover"--read the label, diesel or
other
hydrocarbon fuel will help if you intend to later burn the stump.

So, the basic idea is, drill holes, pour KNO3 powder, add diesel fuel?

Wouldn't that be an immediate fire hazard?

Bulk quantities are available at wholesale chemical houses and
pyrotechnic
materials suppliers........

cool.

Beware, stump removal grade is *not* generally not pure enough for
pyrotechnic use, so suggest dont get any bright ideas about making
explosives or other 4th of July demonstrations with it.

I already had those bright ideas...

How about ammonium nitrate, can it be bought? I used it in Russia in
my garden all the time.


Go figure--bigger fishes elsewhere........

Seeya.

--

SVL

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"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...
In article , escapee wrote:

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not
to get it on anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In
addition to the nitrogen fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag
of sugar on the stump to seep into the holes you drill. The carbon
in the sugar will help expedite the process

How is a high nitrogen fertiliser labeled?It is not 10-10-10, right?


Ike ???

Is that you ???

The magic number is above 40.......

Sigh

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In article , PrecisionMachinisT wrote:

"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...
In article , escapee wrote:

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not
to get it on anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In
addition to the nitrogen fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag
of sugar on the stump to seep into the holes you drill. The carbon
in the sugar will help expedite the process

How is a high nitrogen fertiliser labeled?It is not 10-10-10, right?


Ike ???

Is that you ???

The magic number is above 40.......

I am not Ike... Which magic number are you talking about?

i

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"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...
In article , PrecisionMachinisT wrote:

"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...
In article , escapee wrote:

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not
to get it on anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In
addition to the nitrogen fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag
of sugar on the stump to seep into the holes you drill. The carbon
in the sugar will help expedite the process

How is a high nitrogen fertiliser labeled?It is not 10-10-10, right?


Ike ???

Is that you ???

The magic number is above 40.......

I am not Ike... Which magic number are you talking about?


Okay, just wondering.....

44--sometimes 45 IIRC

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In article , BroJack
wrote:

Can't rent a grinder because I have no truck to transport it back and
forth.

Home Depot will rent you the truck when you rent the grinder.

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No chemical will desstroy the stump except maybe fuming sulfuric acid
which would turn it into charcoal. The chemicals put in stumps are
just nutrients to speed growth of decay organisms--primarily any
nitrate.

Ignoramus32760 wrote:

And what chemical would destroy the stump?

i

In article , Evan Mann wrote:
The stuff I got at home depot says to drill 1" wide, 12" deep, and then make
a sideways hole at a downward angle that joins the straight down hole in the
stump. I just drilled 3 or 4 straight down holes using a 1" wood spade bit,
about 8" deep. My tree stump was something hard, so I used a corded
milwaukee 1/2" drill. I started with my 18V Bosch, but I knew that would
die quickly because of the hardness of the stump

" wrote in message
om...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks

For Drilling Holes In Tree Stumps
 

Ignoramus32760 wrote:

In article , PrecisionMachinisT wrote:

"Ignoramus32760" wrote in message
...

i

In article , Evan Mann
wrote:
The stuff I got at home depot says to drill 1" wide, 12" deep, and then
make
a sideways hole at a downward angle that joins the straight down hole in
the
stump. I just drilled 3 or 4 straight down holes using a 1" wood spade
bit,
about 8" deep. My tree stump was something hard, so I used a corded
milwaukee 1/2" drill. I started with my 18V Bosch, but I knew that
would
die quickly because of the hardness of the stump

" wrote in message
om...
The idea is to drill holes and fill with a chemical to break down the
stumps.

Would a manual bit brace do the trick, or would you use a
battery-powered hand drill. What size? Length of bit, etc.? Thanks




And what chemical would destroy the stump?

Potassium nitrate.


and where could I buy it?

i

Any farm/fertilizer/lawn care/etc. store. Simpler to just buy any
standard fertilizer, especially sacks of ammonium nitrate. You buy
this stuff anywhere else and you will pay 4-5 up to 20 times the
price.

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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 10:39:24 -0700, "PrecisionMachinisT"
opined:


Yup....

In composting of woody material, nitrogen is needed--if not available in the
form of green clippings it can be always be added in chemical form.

Not sure about the sugar though, as in this case there is already plenty of
carbon in the stump.

Yes, but the carbon in the stump is not immediately available for it to mix with
the N and get the heat process started. It's just a temporary expeditor, or
catalyst to help the N work faster. It also feeds the microbes which will
further break down the stump and large roots.


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On 4 Jun 2004 17:41:52 GMT, Ignoramus32760
opined:

In article , escapee wrote:

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not
to get it on anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In
addition to the nitrogen fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag
of sugar on the stump to seep into the holes you drill. The carbon
in the sugar will help expedite the process

How is a high nitrogen fertiliser labeled?It is not 10-10-10, right?

i

No, higher. One of the more idiotic types with, say, 40-10-10.


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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:20:54 -0600, Dave Balderstone
opined:

In article , BroJack
wrote:

Can't rent a grinder because I have no truck to transport it back and
forth.

Home Depot will rent you the truck when you rent the grinder.

Actually, I had a stump ground out about 6 years ago in Dallas and it cost us
about 45 dollars for someone to come do it.


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Ignoramus32760 wrote:

In article , escapee wrote:

All you need is any cheap bag of high nitrogen fertilizer. Try not
to get it on anything but the stump you are trying to decay. In
addition to the nitrogen fertilizer, also put about a five pound bag
of sugar on the stump to seep into the holes you drill. The carbon
in the sugar will help expedite the process

How is a high nitrogen fertiliser labeled?It is not 10-10-10, right?

i

No. 10 percent is low. Garden ferilier is often 15-15-15 which is 15
percent nitrogen and standard lawn fertilizer is 23-?-? which means 23
percent nitrogen. Amonium nitrate will give the highest amount of
nitrogen and is 35 percent nitrogen (if I added up the atomic weights
correctly). Potassium nitrate is only 14 percent nitrogen.

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In article , escapee
wrote:

Actually, I had a stump ground out about 6 years ago in Dallas and it cost us
about 45 dollars for someone to come do it.

That sounds about right. I asked a tree service about grinding (I'm in
western Canada) and for the three stumps it worked out to about $200
CAD. This service charged by inch of diameter.

djb

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040604 2008 - escapee posted:

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:20:54 -0600, Dave Balderstone
opined:

In article , BroJack
wrote:

Can't rent a grinder because I have no truck to transport it back and
forth.

Home Depot will rent you the truck when you rent the grinder.

Actually, I had a stump ground out about 6 years ago in Dallas and it cost us
about 45 dollars for someone to come do it.


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I was watching a program on the building of the Erie Canal a few years back
and one striking accomplishment I noticed was the method used for removing
tree stumps. They had two huge wheels, looked like about 4 horses high from
the drawing, with an axle between the two. The axle was placed over the
tree stump and a chain was fastened around the axle and then around the tree
stump. Chains were then placed around the wheels and then to a team of
horses and the wheels were pulled forward. The leverage was such that the
stump would easily be removed. It was said that this method was quite
effective for its time.

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"Pump diesel into the soil"???

No, you fill the holes you drilled in the stump with the diesel. It'll
saturate the stump and then burn. Get it??

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:41:30 GMT, (The Watcher)
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 19:31:06 -0700, davefr wrote:

$1.00 worth of diesel or $75 rental fee + 2 round trips to the rental
yard.

Sounds like a no-brainer to me!!

Of course, some people don't care much for the idea of pumping diesel down into
their soil either. ;)

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:52:57 -0600, Dave Balderstone
wrote:

In article , escapee
wrote:

Actually, I had a stump ground out about 6 years ago in Dallas and it cost us
about 45 dollars for someone to come do it.

That sounds about right. I asked a tree service about grinding (I'm in
western Canada) and for the three stumps it worked out to about $200
CAD. This service charged by inch of diameter.

djb

Hell, I'd be happy at that price. Internet says $300-400 per tree
average. Estimate scheduled for today. Let you guys know.

Jack

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Put Carnation Powdered Milk in the holes. It will rot/disolve the stump.

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TOM KAN PA wrote:
Put Carnation Powdered Milk in the holes. It will rot/disolve the stump.



Actually, this is probably a good idea. Milk is pretty corrosive. My
husband is a truckdriver and we were in the truck with him for a few
months and my 4 year old spilled a gallon of milk on the floor, which
ran out onto the stainless steel fuel tanks and it ate the finish off
the tanks!

Milk is technically considered a hazardous material.

amy

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indago wrote:
I was watching a program on the building of the Erie Canal a few years back
and one striking accomplishment I noticed was the method used for removing
tree stumps. They had two huge wheels, looked like about 4 horses high from
the drawing, with an axle between the two. The axle was placed over the
tree stump and a chain was fastened around the axle and then around the tree
stump. Chains were then placed around the wheels and then to a team of
horses and the wheels were pulled forward. The leverage was such that the
stump would easily be removed. It was said that this method was quite
effective for its time.

Mechanical advantage is the bomb.

But who can store a wheelset four horses high?

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 07:26:19 -0700, davefr wrote:

"Pump diesel into the soil"???

No, you fill the holes you drilled in the stump with the diesel. It'll
saturate the stump and then burn. Get it??

Ah, so you're sure that none of that diesel will go into the soil? I wouldn't
bet on that happening. Get it? ;)
Diesel isn't one of the things I like pumping into the ground.

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:07:00 -0500, Dan Hartung
wrote:

indago wrote:
I was watching a program on the building of the Erie Canal a few years back
and one striking accomplishment I noticed was the method used for removing
tree stumps. They had two huge wheels, looked like about 4 horses high from
the drawing, with an axle between the two. The axle was placed over the
tree stump and a chain was fastened around the axle and then around the tree
stump. Chains were then placed around the wheels and then to a team of
horses and the wheels were pulled forward. The leverage was such that the
stump would easily be removed. It was said that this method was quite
effective for its time.

Mechanical advantage is the bomb.

But who can store a wheelset four horses high?

There's another device I've seen for pulling stumps. It's a homemade gadget made
from a metal tire rim and a piece of I-beam and a couple of pieces of chain.
It's basically a big lever to pry the stump out of the ground with the tire rim
acting as the fulcrum.