Some vines are growing into my pine trees. These vines have broad, 7
pointed leaves on them. Will the vines hurt the pines? Should I pull out the
vines ? Or is it a "symbiotic" relationship of some sort ? I don't know what
variety of pines they are. The pines are about 6 to 8 feet tall, and look
prety healthy except for some dead branches near the bottom. Lots of new growth
this spring, but some dead branches on the bottoms from the cold winter here in
Pa.


Thanks,

L

"Lecher9000" wrote in message
...
Some vines are growing into my pine trees. These vines have broad, 7
pointed leaves on them. Will the vines hurt the pines? Should I pull out
the
vines ? Or is it a "symbiotic" relationship of some sort ? I don't know
what
variety of pines they are. The pines are about 6 to 8 feet tall, and look
prety healthy except for some dead branches near the bottom. Lots of new
growth
this spring, but some dead branches on the bottoms from the cold winter
here in
Pa.

You have Virginia creeper on your pine trees. It is a symbiotic
relationship and will, in no way, harm your trees. Some people, however, do
not like the looks of Virginia creeper on their trees. If you are one of
these people, there is an easy way to remove the vines. Go to your nearest
swimming pool supply store and purchase a gallon of muriatic acid. Pour the
muriatic acid, undiluted, into a pump-up sprayer and spray onto the leaves
of the Virginia creeper. The vines will turn brown and die within three
hours. If you have any muriatic acic left over it makes a great substitute
for tonic water in your daily toddy. Because of its peculiar flavor, it
completely eliminates the need for a twist of lime or lemon.

Cheers!

"Lecher9000" wrote in message
...
Some vines are growing into my pine trees. These vines have broad, 7
pointed leaves on them. Will the vines hurt the pines? Should I pull out
the
vines ? Or is it a "symbiotic" relationship of some sort ? I don't know
what
variety of pines they are. The pines are about 6 to 8 feet tall, and look
prety healthy except for some dead branches near the bottom. Lots of new
growth
this spring, but some dead branches on the bottoms from the cold winter
here in
Pa.

Pull them or cut them. Do not know what they are but they do not belong and
are just seeking light by climbing the tree.
I'm constantly cutting grape and honey suckle vines from mine in Northern
DE.
Frank

Terri wrote in message ...

"Lecher9000" wrote in message
...
Some vines are growing into my pine trees. These vines have broad,
7
pointed leaves on them. Will the vines hurt the pines? Should I pull
out
the
vines ? Or is it a "symbiotic" relationship of some sort ? I don't know
what
variety of pines they are. The pines are about 6 to 8 feet tall, and
look
prety healthy except for some dead branches near the bottom. Lots of new
growth
this spring, but some dead branches on the bottoms from the cold winter
here in
Pa.

You have Virginia creeper on your pine trees. It is a symbiotic
relationship and will, in no way, harm your trees. Some people, however,
do
not like the looks of Virginia creeper on their trees. If you are one of
these people, there is an easy way to remove the vines. Go to your
nearest
swimming pool supply store and purchase a gallon of muriatic acid. Pour
the
muriatic acid, undiluted, into a pump-up sprayer and spray onto the leaves
of the Virginia creeper. The vines will turn brown and die within three
hours. If you have any muriatic acic left over it makes a great
substitute
for tonic water in your daily toddy. Because of its peculiar flavor, it
completely eliminates the need for a twist of lime or lemon.

Cheers!

Poor guy asks a serious question and gets a wack job answer ;(
Frank

Frank Logullo wrote:



Poor guy asks a serious question and gets a wack job answer ;(
Frank



Then some dickhead like you comes along who doesn't know that muriatic
acid is an excellent herbicide for Virginia creeper.

"John P. Mullen" wrote in message
...


Frank Logullo wrote:



Poor guy asks a serious question and gets a wack job answer ;(
Frank



Then some dickhead like you comes along who doesn't know that muriatic
acid is an excellent herbicide for Virginia creeper.

Maybe so. Concentrated HCl, muriatic acid, will kill practically anything
and probably ruin the sprayer as well as eat away the guys clothes. He
sounds like a novice as this is his 2nd or third inquiry. Nobody in their
right mind would make this recommendation to a novice. You can drink HCl
diluted, after all it is stomach acid, but it will harm your teeth. The
vine can smoother and kill the trees. Be nice - asshole!

Frank Logullo wrote in message
...

Terri wrote in message ...

"Lecher9000" wrote in message
...
Some vines are growing into my pine trees. These vines have
broad,
7
pointed leaves on them. Will the vines hurt the pines? Should I pull
out
the
vines ? Or is it a "symbiotic" relationship of some sort ? I don't
know
what
variety of pines they are. The pines are about 6 to 8 feet tall, and
look
prety healthy except for some dead branches near the bottom. Lots of
new
growth
this spring, but some dead branches on the bottoms from the cold
winter
here in
Pa.

You have Virginia creeper on your pine trees. It is a symbiotic
relationship and will, in no way, harm your trees. Some people,
however,
do
not like the looks of Virginia creeper on their trees. If you are one
of
these people, there is an easy way to remove the vines. Go to your
nearest
swimming pool supply store and purchase a gallon of muriatic acid. Pour
the
muriatic acid, undiluted, into a pump-up sprayer and spray onto the
leaves
of the Virginia creeper. The vines will turn brown and die within three
hours. If you have any muriatic acic left over it makes a great
substitute
for tonic water in your daily toddy. Because of its peculiar flavor, it
completely eliminates the need for a twist of lime or lemon.

Cheers!

Poor guy asks a serious question and gets a wack job answer ;(
Frank

Absolutely. Why would anybody want to kill off this lovely plant? Virginia
creeper is not harmful to your tree, it's not symbiotic, it just clings via
little adhesive disks, unlike the horrible ivy that worms its way into your
tree with its little roots, and then kills your tree. And in the Autumn V.
creeper looks nice when the leaves turn red.

Here in U.K. we encourage Clematis (old man's beard) to grow up into our
trees, because they look nice when they flower.

Pine trees always seem to have dead branches towards the bottom anyway. Or
at least, mine do. Maybe you should encourage growth from the bottom by
cutting off the tops.

s.

Then some Ahole like you defends half the wako's answer with some
condensending and obnoxious answer while not touching the other half which
is downright dangerous if not deadly. Yes muratic acid (dilute hydrochloric
acid) is excellent against Virginia Creeper. It's also all hell on the
mouth, esophagus and stomach (which usually makes more han enough of its
own). So instead of looking for some "dickhead, smartass" answer, try to be
really helpful and give some useful information.

"John P. Mullen" wrote in message
...


Frank Logullo wrote:



Poor guy asks a serious question and gets a wack job answer ;(
Frank



Then some dickhead like you comes along who doesn't know that muriatic
acid is an excellent herbicide for Virginia creeper.

Thanks for the replies. But this is a 7 pointed leaf, and there is no "center"
from which they emerge. Looks more like a maple leaf with 7 points. But without
the jaggedness of a maple leaf.

I got a picture of VC from the web, and my vine doesn't look like a VC. The VC
leaf pics had only 5 points (leaflets) and all 5 emerged from one point. My
vine doesnt have any leaqflets, just one big 7 pointed leaf.

Thanks,

L

More info :

Thanks for the replies. But this is a 7 pointed leaf, and there is no "center"
from which they emerge. Looks more like a maple leaf with 7 points. But without
the jaggedness of a maple leaf.

I got a picture of VC from the web, and my vine doesn't look like a VC. The VC
leaf pics had only 5 points (leaflets) and all 5 emerged from one point. My
vine doesnt have any leaqflets, just one big 7 pointed leaf.

Thanks,

L

On 26 Jun 2004 12:23:07 GMT, (Lecher9000)
wrote:

More info :

Thanks for the replies. But this is a 7 pointed leaf, and there is no "center"
from which they emerge. Looks more like a maple leaf with 7 points. But without
the jaggedness of a maple leaf.

I got a picture of VC from the web, and my vine doesn't look like a VC. The VC
leaf pics had only 5 points (leaflets) and all 5 emerged from one point. My
vine doesnt have any leaqflets, just one big 7 pointed leaf.

Hi L,

You didn't give us much to go on, lots of possible vines
this *could* be...

Look through the following group of vines and see if
anything looks like your specimen:

http://www.cnr.vt.edu/dendro/dendrol...eafshape=unkno
wn&thickness=unknown

or this if the above got hacked up too much:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?B1BB620B8

Feel free to modify the search criteria, I kept it wide with
the scanty details in mind.

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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But this is a 7 pointed leaf, and there is no "center" from which they
emerge. Looks more like a maple leaf with 7 points. But without the jaggedness
of a maple leaf.

Where are you located? If you are in he Pacific Northwest, you may have vine
maple, Acer circinatum. It is a very desirable & interesting little tree.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Iris, it is a pleasure to see a post from you again. Welcome back. Greg
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