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Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. Enjoy, Bobby -- Bobby Baxter TheGardenSite.com Your Web Site Is Waiting For You ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TheGardenSite.com: http://thegardensite.com Daylily.Net: http://daylily.net Happy Moose: http://happymoosegardens.com We specialize in designing web sites for plant lovers! daylilies, hostas, irises, orchids, cacti, perennials, etc. |
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"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message .com... http://franksmithdaylilies.com Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. I don't like them, they look like diseased mutants~ Robert |
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Bobby Baxter wrote: Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather like dustcovers ; Perhaps I'm old fashioned in the flowers that I like, but I really can't work up any enthusiasm over the fussy ruffles that really obscure what should be a beautifully shaped flower. More generally, it seems that many of the recent cultivars are aiming more for shock value than attractiveness - or features like repeat blooms and scent - which is a crying shame. cheers! -- ================================================== ======================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now." |
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These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next
48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. $200 for a daylily? Vey is mir. What are they made of? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Seriously! For fifteen bucks, you can buy "Hyperion", one of the most
gorgeous yellow daylillies in existence. "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. $200 for a daylily? Vey is mir. What are they made of? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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"Iris Cohen" wrote in message
... These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. $200 for a daylily? Vey is mir. What are they made of? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) Any new cultivar of any new plant variety is pricy. New hybrids of daylilies are no exception. The serious hybridizer, seller, grower will buy a cutting edge daylily for its genes that produce a new color, new eye pattern, maximum bud counts and branching. They want to use in their own crosses or increase it to sell while the price is still high. Also there are always the elite gardeners that want the first of any cultivar. Have you checked the price of a new, non tissue cultured Hosta, or a new non tissue cultured Iris? Or even any new non tissue cultured perennial? Oh heck, have you checked the licensing price the garden center must pay to be able to grow and sell The Wave petunia? Those $200 daylilies are priced that way because there are only a hand full of that particular cultivar in the whole world. Not making excuses for the prissiness, but explaining why there is a market for those high priced lovelies. Wil |
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You're paying too much - according to Eureka ( a daylily price guide)
Hyperion goes for $5 a double fan. Cheryl On 7/21/04 9:19 AM, in article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Seriously! For fifteen bucks, you can buy "Hyperion", one of the most gorgeous yellow daylillies in existence. "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. $200 for a daylily? Vey is mir. What are they made of? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Seriously! For fifteen bucks, you can buy "Hyperion", one of the most gorgeous yellow daylillies in existence. You have GOT to be kidding. If you are paying $15 for Hyperion you are paying about 3 times what the value is among daylily growers. And you will be getting a tissue cultured plant from your garden center that may or may not perform up to what a plant division is of Hyperion that made it popular many years ago. Wil |
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Yeah, but I'm thinking even if you DID pay that much, it's still just as
pleasurable to grow as a $200 monster. Maybe even more so. "Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message ... You're paying too much - according to Eureka ( a daylily price guide) Hyperion goes for $5 a double fan. Cheryl On 7/21/04 9:19 AM, in article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Seriously! For fifteen bucks, you can buy "Hyperion", one of the most gorgeous yellow daylillies in existence. "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. $200 for a daylily? Vey is mir. What are they made of? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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"Robert" wrote in message news:SGkLc.113795$WX.60069@attbi_s51...
"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. I don't like them, they look like diseased mutants~ Robert I agree. They are ugly. When did sickly and deseased looks become fashionable? Though beauty is in the eyes of beholder, I doubt a person cover with with frog skin will be admire by many. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Seriously! For fifteen bucks, you can buy "Hyperion", one of the most gorgeous yellow daylillies in existence. I love Hyperion. Someone in the neighborhood has a mass planting of them. |
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"Robert" wrote in message news:SGkLc.113795$WX.60069@attbi_s51... "Bobby Baxter" wrote in message .com... http://franksmithdaylilies.com Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. I don't like them, they look like diseased mutants~ There were some that I would be happy to own, but not at that price. I can't see planting daylilies as specimen plants. I like them in large clumps that can be viewed at a distance. If you only have a couple plants, they bloom for three days and then are gone. Large clumps give a nice display for two or three weeks. |
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om... I agree. They are ugly. When did sickly and deseased looks become fashionable? It began with the tulip frenzy in Europe, whenever that was (1800s? Earlier?) |
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Not to change the topic, but could you explain why a tissue culture would
perform differently than a plant division? I though tissue cultures were an exact clone. "Wil" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Seriously! For fifteen bucks, you can buy "Hyperion", one of the most gorgeous yellow daylillies in existence. You have GOT to be kidding. If you are paying $15 for Hyperion you are paying about 3 times what the value is among daylily growers. And you will be getting a tissue cultured plant from your garden center that may or may not perform up to what a plant division is of Hyperion that made it popular many years ago. Wil |
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"JMagerl" wrote in message ... Not to change the topic, but could you explain why a tissue culture would perform differently than a plant division? I though tissue cultures were an exact clone. In some plants the tissue culture performs well. However it has been proven by daylily growers that there is a percentage of so called clones, tissue cultured plant, that have problems with the plant performance. I have bought a cloned daylily from say, Wal Mart that did not even bloom. But others have bought the same named variety from Wal Mart that is performing well. Sometimes the depth of color saturation is not the same as the original by plant division. Sometimes the flower form just is not as perfect, ruffled, large bloom, good performance upon opening in the AM etc, as the division plant. I suppose the cause has to do with the process. Perhaps an imperfect process in the lab can mutate cloned piece. I don't know if anyone has even said definitively what causes the problem. Daylily growers only know it happens when the plant is grown. Also for the serious daylily grower, [as opposed to a gardener that wants to enjoy a plant at a reasonable price] some tissue cultured plants have been sold in the upper markets as true divisions at the true division price. You can see how that can cause a problem in the daylily market where prices are originally very high. Wil |
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I think they are gorgeous. and I dont really like froo-froo either. but my mother
is nuts about day lilies and her's are all wildly in bloom while she is in a hospital right now still dont know what is going on. Ingrid "Bobby Baxter" wrote: http://franksmithdaylilies.com Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. Enjoy, Bobby ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Frogleg wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat) wrote: Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather like dustcovers ; ?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you mean dustmop? :-) Heh ; No - I'm thinking of the wretchedly ruffled victorian mostrosities that they used to put on -everything- to "keep the dust off" ; With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily. I thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-) Heh. If I'm going to spend $200, I think I'd buy peonies ; http://www.pivoinescapano.com/ cheers! -- ================================================== ======================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now." |
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On 7/21/04 1:06 PM, in article , "Cat"
wrote: In article , Frogleg wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat) wrote: Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather like dustcovers ; ?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you mean dustmop? :-) Heh ; No - I'm thinking of the wretchedly ruffled victorian mostrosities that they used to put on -everything- to "keep the dust off" ; With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily. I thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-) Heh. If I'm going to spend $200, I think I'd buy peonies ; http://www.pivoinescapano.com/ cheers! My DH is going to shoot you - I want Green Halo! Cheryl |
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Cheryl Isaak wrote: http://www.pivoinescapano.com/ My DH is going to shoot you - I want Green Halo! Heh. I haven't told my spouse that I'm looking at: http://www.goldenport.com/peony/tpwt02f.htm http://www.goldenport.com/peony/tprd10f.htm http://www.goldenport.com/peony/tprd38.htm yet.... cheers! -- ================================================== ======================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now." |
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frankly I prefur the nice clumps of day lilies I get at my garden
center for $10.00 and I get a nice selection of colors and mine bloom quite nicely for almost three and a half weeks and some times I get late stalks with nice blooms after even that if he gets some one to pay that price per plant than those folks are crazy and he's a damn genius On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:24:40 GMT, "Vox Humana" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message news:SGkLc.113795$WX.60069@attbi_s51... "Bobby Baxter" wrote in message .com... http://franksmithdaylilies.com Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. I don't like them, they look like diseased mutants~ There were some that I would be happy to own, but not at that price. I can't see planting daylilies as specimen plants. I like them in large clumps that can be viewed at a distance. If you only have a couple plants, they bloom for three days and then are gone. Large clumps give a nice display for two or three weeks. |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:19:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: Seriously! For fifteen bucks, you can buy "Hyperion", one of the most gorgeous yellow daylillies in existence. Here Here I agree Cheers "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. $200 for a daylily? Vey is mir. What are they made of? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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just proovs I'd never make it rubbing elbows with the rich gardeners
I'm just too satisfied with the old tried and true although I have a very pretty canna that I got from a friend and it is doing quite well and I get a lot of ooo's and ahhh's from the neighbors but I think that it's just not worth it to pay through the nose for a fancy flower like that unless you are a nursery who plans to grow and sell it it's like paying two hundred and fifty dollars for some sort of new sneaker or six thousand dollars for a suit just to wear once I guess if you have nothing better to do with your money go ahead go crazy On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:23:47 -0400, "Wil" wrote: "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. $200 for a daylily? Vey is mir. What are they made of? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) Any new cultivar of any new plant variety is pricy. New hybrids of daylilies are no exception. The serious hybridizer, seller, grower will buy a cutting edge daylily for its genes that produce a new color, new eye pattern, maximum bud counts and branching. They want to use in their own crosses or increase it to sell while the price is still high. Also there are always the elite gardeners that want the first of any cultivar. Have you checked the price of a new, non tissue cultured Hosta, or a new non tissue cultured Iris? Or even any new non tissue cultured perennial? Oh heck, have you checked the licensing price the garden center must pay to be able to grow and sell The Wave petunia? Those $200 daylilies are priced that way because there are only a hand full of that particular cultivar in the whole world. Not making excuses for the prissiness, but explaining why there is a market for those high priced lovelies. Wil |
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Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder like some one said but that
is sad she is sick when her favorite flowers are in bloom i'd be sad if I missed my lilies get her a boquet for us and send our best regards tell her to get well soon On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:03:11 GMT, wrote: I think they are gorgeous. and I dont really like froo-froo either. but my mother is nuts about day lilies and her's are all wildly in bloom while she is in a hospital right now still dont know what is going on. Ingrid "Bobby Baxter" wrote: http://franksmithdaylilies.com Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. Enjoy, Bobby ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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"Bobby Baxter" wrote in message .com... http://franksmithdaylilies.com Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. Enjoy, Bobby I actually like the daylillies but for $200 they better come into my house, clean it, mop the floors and do windows. Giselle (I like the daylillies I dig up free in the ditches) |
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wrote: "Bobby Baxter" wrote in message .com... http://franksmithdaylilies.com Moments ago we updated the Frank Smith Daylilies web site with his fall 2004 introductions. If you are interested in seeing some of the most sought after daylilies on this planet then you should take look. These are some remarkable beauties and many will be sold out within the next 48 hours and the $200 prices do not deter the diehard daylily fanatics. Enjoy, Bobby I actually like the daylillies but for $200 they better come into my house, clean it, mop the floors and do windows. Giselle (I like the daylillies I dig up free in the ditches) I felt the same way about the Grant Mitchell daffodil catalog. I mean, is there even a slightly lowered chance of getting some variety that tips over if you pay a fortune for one bulb? Not bloody likely. Are these pricy bulbs REALLY two-hundred times more beautiful than affordable daffodils? If they were we'd go blind at the very sight of 'em. If I was rich instead of poor would I not think twice about the price? I'd hope if I was in a money-blowing mood I'd think more about the needy (I mean, for the price of one bulb for my selfish self, I could buy a couple dozen really nice big perennials to give to destitute gardeners). -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
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Cheryl Isaak expounded:
My DH is going to shoot you - I want Green Halo! That is a sweet one! I want veitchii. I had it, and lost it this past winter.....and had paid $45 for it (ouch!) -- Ann, Gardening in zone 6a Just south of Boston, MA ******************************** |
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paghat wrote:
I felt the same way about the Grant Mitchell daffodil catalog. I mean, is there even a slightly lowered chance of getting some variety that tips over if you pay a fortune for one bulb? Not bloody likely. Are these pricy bulbs REALLY two-hundred times more beautiful than affordable daffodils? If they were we'd go blind at the very sight of 'em. If I was rich instead of poor would I not think twice about the price? I'd hope if I was in a money-blowing mood I'd think more about the needy (I mean, for the price of one bulb for my selfish self, I could buy a couple dozen really nice big perennials to give to destitute gardeners). Personally, I like to get a lot for my money. My friends aren't impressed by expensive varieties, and people driving by can't tell from the street, so what would be the purpose? But I probably have some stuff in my beds that at one time would have been outlandishly expensive. It's the same as the DVD player I own. I paid a couple hundred for it, but at one time, people paid a couple thousands for a DVD player, even though there weren't many DVD's to play in it. Their money helped pay the R&D costs of the new product, eventually allowing DVD players to almost become a commodity, and thus subject to price competition. The people paying $200 a bulb are paying for the time spent developing them. As time goes on, the price will go down as new customers are needed. Eventually the R&D costs will be paid for, and the price will drop sharply. And someday we may be buying these bulbs by the bagful, and not put a significant dent in our wallets. So we can look at this as a tree, and say that we, ourselves, would never dream of paying that kind of money, or we can look at the forest, and understand that it's not such an outlandish thing for single bulbs to cost that much. (BTW... It's a good thing so many of us are shocked by these prices, and would never dream of paying them. It's important to have a few people in the world who will, but if there are too many of them, the price will never come down.) -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. Blatant Plug: Books for the Pacific Northwest gardener: http://www.holzemville.com/mall/nwgardener/index.html |
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"Michelle" wrote in message ... just proovs I'd never make it rubbing elbows with the rich gardeners I'm just too satisfied with the old tried and true although I have a very pretty canna that I got from a friend and it is doing quite well and I get a lot of ooo's and ahhh's from the neighbors but I think that it's just not worth it to pay through the nose for a fancy flower like that unless you are a nursery who plans to grow and sell it it's like paying two hundred and fifty dollars for some sort of new sneaker or six thousand dollars for a suit just to wear once I guess if you have nothing better to do with your money go ahead go crazy On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:23:47 -0400, "Wil" wrote: Daylily growers and hybridizers are not rich folks. Some are scientists in horticulture. Some are plenty wealthy though from a life time of work in other unrelated career fields. I sell plenty of tried and true older daylilies for $6. They are much less expensive from me, a daylily counasour, than from the garden centers who pay less for a daylily tissue culture than I pay for a true division, but the garden centers over charge for the variety. I can sell you a very nice newer developed daylily for $15. The very expensive ones are for collectors and breeders and those who want the "rolls royce" of NEW daylily introductions. Given a little time the $200 daylily will be $6. It is supply and demand. When they are so plentiful I chop them up. They are of little value unless someone rescues it. Wil |
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I sell daylilies from my garden to word of mouth customers (friends of
friends, typically) - very few things for more than $10 for a triple fan for a newer intro. I refuse to buy anything that is a first year intro that is more than $50; sometimes even I just HAVE TO have it. Cheryl Oh don't i know that "have to have" feeling. In my breeding program I buy ones I once thought were so out of reach for me. The turn over the first few years of the expensive ones are to other growers/hybridizers looking for a bargain price for a new daylily. The hybridizer keeps his price higher than I do for many years after I am trying to sell the increase that is too much for my garden space. :-) I am about to intro a few new varieties. I am wrestling with what to charge for a single fan of the new cultivars. I agree many of the new things are way over priced, mostly by the top hybridizers located in Florida, Texas and the Carolinas. I am way up north where many of the new southern intros just are not hardy for me the first year or so. They may survive but perform here like a wal mart tissue culture [laughing]. There is a mindset among the buyers of new intros that if one charges too little for the new daylily it must be third rate. Far from it. I would love to get plugged into the backyard hybridizers whose work is under rated because they are new to daylily breeding. A few well known hybridizers get all the attention, but many are producing lousy cultivars for northern growers. Don't get me wrong, they sure have a pretty face but there are problems with hardiness, flower opening, color saturation or foliage that gets raggy mid season. In early summer we still may have 60 degree nights. That can make a beauty look ugly real fast. Wil |
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"Michelle" wrote in message ... just proovs I'd never make it rubbing elbows with the rich gardeners I'm just too satisfied with the old tried and true although I have a very pretty canna that I got from a friend and it is doing quite well and I get a lot of ooo's and ahhh's from the neighbors but I think that it's just not worth it to pay through the nose for a fancy flower like that unless you are a nursery who plans to grow and sell it it's like paying two hundred and fifty dollars for some sort of new sneaker or six thousand dollars for a suit just to wear once I guess if you have nothing better to do with your money go ahead go crazy On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:23:47 -0400, "Wil" wrote: Daylily growers and hybridizers are not rich folks. Some are scientists in horticulture. Some are plenty wealthy though from a life time of work in other unrelated career fields. I sell plenty of tried and true older daylilies for $6. They are much less expensive from me, a daylily counasour, than from the garden centers who pay less for a daylily tissue culture than I pay for a true division, but the garden centers over charge for the variety. I can sell you a very nice newer developed daylily for $15. The very expensive ones are for collectors and breeders and those who want the "rolls royce" of NEW daylily introductions. Given a little time the $200 daylily will be $6. It is supply and demand. When they are so plentiful I chop them up. They are of little value unless someone rescues it. Wil |
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I sell daylilies from my garden to word of mouth customers (friends of
friends, typically) - very few things for more than $10 for a triple fan for a newer intro. I refuse to buy anything that is a first year intro that is more than $50; sometimes even I just HAVE TO have it. Cheryl Oh don't i know that "have to have" feeling. In my breeding program I buy ones I once thought were so out of reach for me. The turn over the first few years of the expensive ones are to other growers/hybridizers looking for a bargain price for a new daylily. The hybridizer keeps his price higher than I do for many years after I am trying to sell the increase that is too much for my garden space. :-) I am about to intro a few new varieties. I am wrestling with what to charge for a single fan of the new cultivars. I agree many of the new things are way over priced, mostly by the top hybridizers located in Florida, Texas and the Carolinas. I am way up north where many of the new southern intros just are not hardy for me the first year or so. They may survive but perform here like a wal mart tissue culture [laughing]. There is a mindset among the buyers of new intros that if one charges too little for the new daylily it must be third rate. Far from it. I would love to get plugged into the backyard hybridizers whose work is under rated because they are new to daylily breeding. A few well known hybridizers get all the attention, but many are producing lousy cultivars for northern growers. Don't get me wrong, they sure have a pretty face but there are problems with hardiness, flower opening, color saturation or foliage that gets raggy mid season. In early summer we still may have 60 degree nights. That can make a beauty look ugly real fast. Wil |
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Ultra Modern Daylilies
From a local magazine, Manitoba Gardener, Summer 2004, p. 28:
....a new introduction by daylily hybridizer Ted Petit - recently sold for whopping $6,000 at a Canadian Hemerocallis Society auction in Niagara Falls to Dr. Larry Gooden and his wife Pat Keisel. Obviously thrilled with the plant, the couple promptly named it "Larry's Obsession". The photo show a beautiful flower, purple with white ruffled edge. Andrew "Cat" wrote in message ... In article , Frogleg wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat) wrote: Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather like dustcovers ; ?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you mean dustmop? :-) Heh ; No - I'm thinking of the wretchedly ruffled victorian mostrosities that they used to put on -everything- to "keep the dust off" ; With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily. I thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-) Heh. If I'm going to spend $200, I think I'd buy peonies ; http://www.pivoinescapano.com/ cheers! -- ================================================== ======================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now." |
Ultra Modern Daylilies
From a local magazine, Manitoba Gardener, Summer 2004, p. 28:
....a new introduction by daylily hybridizer Ted Petit - recently sold for whopping $6,000 at a Canadian Hemerocallis Society auction in Niagara Falls to Dr. Larry Gooden and his wife Pat Keisel. Obviously thrilled with the plant, the couple promptly named it "Larry's Obsession". The photo show a beautiful flower, purple with white ruffled edge. Andrew "Cat" wrote in message ... In article , Frogleg wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:39:26 GMT, (Cat) wrote: Leaving aside the question of whether advertising in this group is a good thing, I have to say that these daylilies look... well - rather like dustcovers ; ?? The flowers don't look like book jackets to me at all. Did you mean dustmop? :-) Heh ; No - I'm thinking of the wretchedly ruffled victorian mostrosities that they used to put on -everything- to "keep the dust off" ; With some 50,000 hemerocallis cultivars, there's bound to be considerable straying from the original(?) orange ditch-lily. I thought they were rather interesting. Not $200 interesting, but if someone planted one in my yard, I wouldn't dig it up. :-) Heh. If I'm going to spend $200, I think I'd buy peonies ; http://www.pivoinescapano.com/ cheers! -- ================================================== ======================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now." |
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