"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
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On 12/1/04 4:50 PM, in article , "Hound
Dog" wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like
to
stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet.

The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.


Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the
assholes.
I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street.
Then,
she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog
crap,
and
cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this
sort
of thing is acceptable???

At least she cleaned up after her dog. Most would not have.

Home owners, if caught, should receive heavy fines for allowing their
dogs
to use the neighborhood as a toilet.

Apartment buildings that permit tenants to have dogs should be required
by
law to have a fenced in area where dogs must be walked.





There is a real winner that walk a pair of little white things (we can
them
the street rats). They've been fined multiple times for not cleaning up
after the dogs and have had animal control called on them countless more.
Hasn't changed a thing....

Got a town judge you can talk to? Do it. Technically, those dog walkers are
guilty of civil trespass, although a judge won't enforce it unless she/he is
informed that the situation is about to get ugly. A judge with a brain will
provide an injunction which permits the cops to arrest the people for simply
setting foot on your lawn. Also works for people who think it's OK to douse
your side of the property line with hideous chemicals.

On 12/1/04 5:26 PM, in article , "Doug
Kanter" wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...

(SNIP)


There is a real winner that walk a pair of little white things (we can
them
the street rats). They've been fined multiple times for not cleaning up
after the dogs and have had animal control called on them countless more.
Hasn't changed a thing....

Got a town judge you can talk to? Do it. Technically, those dog walkers are
guilty of civil trespass, although a judge won't enforce it unless she/he is
informed that the situation is about to get ugly. A judge with a brain will
provide an injunction which permits the cops to arrest the people for simply
setting foot on your lawn. Also works for people who think it's OK to douse
your side of the property line with hideous chemicals.



It would have to go to the county IIRC and while I might think it worth it,
my lawn hasn't been anointed for quite some time. Right now they are
targeting other areas of the general neighborhood.

BTW - go with the rugosas - hardy, pretty, makes the birds happy and the
deer don't eat them.

Cheryl

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open
to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.


I don't know if it will grow in your area but the nastiest thorns I've ever
seen are on hardy orange. Usually grown as a small tree, I've heard of it
being used as a hedge. It is a very attractive plant year round with
utterly vicious thorns. I believe it's hardy to zone 6. By the way, I
still laugh every time I think of that "pistol targets in fur jackets"
comment you made a few weeks back.

Keith

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"paghat" wrote in message
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In article ,
wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like
to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting

Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved them.
I
keep forgetting.

I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.

How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.

Vox Humana wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"paghat" wrote in message
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In article ,

wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:


....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like

to

stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting


Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved them.

I

keep forgetting.


I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.

"Robert Chambers" wrote in message
. com...
How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.


I'm probably the only person on earth who hasn't seen any of the Harry
Potter movies.

"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"paghat" wrote in message
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In article ,
wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners
like
to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking
of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The
planting

Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved
them.
I
keep forgetting.

I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good
luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.



My barberry would literally shred the sleeves of a flannel shirt if I dared
reach into it. Different variety, maybe. I didn't plant the original one -
it came with the house and might've been close to 50 years old.

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 12/1/04 5:26 PM, in article , "Doug
Kanter" wrote:

"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...

(SNIP)


There is a real winner that walk a pair of little white things (we can
them
the street rats). They've been fined multiple times for not cleaning
up
after the dogs and have had animal control called on them countless
more.
Hasn't changed a thing....

Got a town judge you can talk to? Do it. Technically, those dog walkers
are
guilty of civil trespass, although a judge won't enforce it unless
she/he is
informed that the situation is about to get ugly. A judge with a brain
will
provide an injunction which permits the cops to arrest the people for
simply
setting foot on your lawn. Also works for people who think it's OK to
douse
your side of the property line with hideous chemicals.



It would have to go to the county IIRC and while I might think it worth
it,
my lawn hasn't been anointed for quite some time. Right now they are
targeting other areas of the general neighborhood.

BTW - go with the rugosas - hardy, pretty, makes the birds happy and the
deer don't eat them.

Cheryl


I guess it depends on the neighborhood. Here, the town judges are the first
stop, county courts the second.

Rugosa sounds like a good choice. 2-3 nights a week when I step outside,
there are deer 20 feet from the door, and they stand there and stare at me
light I have a lot of nerve for invading their driveway. :-)

"Keith Copi" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
stop
their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of barberry. Open
to
suggestions for other shrub options. The planting spot receives sun for
about 2/3 of the day, and will be buried in snow for 3 months out of the
year.


I don't know if it will grow in your area but the nastiest thorns I've
ever
seen are on hardy orange. Usually grown as a small tree, I've heard of it
being used as a hedge. It is a very attractive plant year round with
utterly vicious thorns. I believe it's hardy to zone 6. By the way, I
still laugh every time I think of that "pistol targets in fur jackets"
comment you made a few weeks back.

Keith



I'm glad you found that entertaining! Mostly, I get nasty comments from
people who think natural law dictates that I like their dogs.

In article , Vox Humana wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"paghat" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like
to
stop their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of
inflicting enough damage to send the dog to the vet. I'm thinking of
barberry. Open to suggestions for other shrub options. The planting

Rugosa! I lived with a 20' row of those for as many years and loved them.
I
keep forgetting.

I have been toying with the idea of planting some roses, probably rugosa
roses, to discourage kids from riding their bikes across my yard. There's
nothing quite as nasty as falling into a rose bush! I haven't had good luck
with pyrocantha and barberry isn't nasty enough in my opinion.

Flowering quince ( Chaenomeles speciosa ). My parents had one of these
*******ly plants in front of a bay window that I had to paint several
times over the years. Unfortunately, they've sold the house and now I'll
never get to trim it with a lawnmower, dig up the roots and salt the earth
where it grew.

http://www.arhomeandgarden.org/plant...s/japonica.htm

Stout thorns is a severe understatement.

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

"Robert Chambers" wrote in message
. com...
How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.


I'm probably the only person on earth who hasn't seen any of the Harry
Potter movies.

I'm a hard-core film fan who hangs out with other hard-core film fans.
Almost none of us have seen any Harry Potter films.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

On 2 Dec 2004 02:39:13 GMT, Ed Clarke wrote:


Stout thorns is a severe understatement.


Thorny? You don't know what thorny is until you plant a
S. jankalski, now that's one thorny sombitch....

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:55:56 -0800,
(paghat) wrote:

I'm a hard-core film fan who hangs out with other hard-core film fans.
Almost none of us have seen any Harry Potter films.


LOL, that and .35 cents will get you......

We're getting to callused?

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

- "Chelsea Christenson" wrote in message
- ...
- Doug Kanter wrote:
- ....to plant this spring in a spot where disgusting dog owners like to
- stop
- their filthy beasts on my property. Shrub must be capable of inflicting
- enough damage to send the dog to the vet.
-
- The dogs aren't deciding where to stop. Mutilate the owners.
-
-
- Great idea, but unfortunately, I'm not always around to greet the assholes.
- I'm home today, though, and saw something unbelievable. A slimeball was
- walking her dog. She began with the usual routine - letting her dog
- investigate the edge of my neighbor's lawn where it meets the street. Then,
- she wandered RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE of a 50' deep lawn, let the dog crap, and
- cleaned it up. Where the hell do some dog owners get the idea that this sort
- of thing is acceptable???


If she cleaned up after the dog, what's the problem?
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I'm sorry to have not included a description then. There's no need to
sully yourself by watching an HP flick. for the purposes of this
discussion it's a tree that for one reason or another is very bad
tempered and if you get near it, it's likely to reach over and "whomp"
you with a vengeance. It smashed up a Ford Anglia once and the latest
movie it flings the people around.

I think it's make believe though so I don't think you can order them
from your usual suppliers.

I resisted the Harry Potter movies for as long as I could but my 8 and 5
year old are more persistent than I am stubborn. Turns out I enjoyed
them after all - who'd a thunk it?

Robert

paghat wrote:

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:


"Robert Chambers" wrote in message
y.com...

How about a "whomping willow" like the Harry Potter movies? That would
take care of dogs, kids, pretty much anything.


I'm probably the only person on earth who hasn't seen any of the Harry
Potter movies.


I'm a hard-core film fan who hangs out with other hard-core film fans.
Almost none of us have seen any Harry Potter films.

-paghat the ratgirl