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Charles,
So, if there was a complainant, you don't know what problems to address to satisfy him. You seem eager to believe that there is no complainant but in the absence of a complainant the ticket writer is the complainant. You need to figure out what is causing these complaints. I don't understand the point your pictures are intended to make. They show a poorly maintained side walk/right of way and a retaining wall that is leaning into the right of way. The vegetation above the retaining wall is not encroaching into the right of way but still this is not a picture you want to produce in court. This picture speaks of long term neglect. Since you've now received multiple tickets you should try to do what is necessary to prevent a city work crew from trimming your land at your expense. Perhaps you should get a landscaper in if you don't know what to do. Dave M. |
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David Martel wrote:
Charles, So, if there was a complainant, you don't know what problems to address to satisfy him. You seem eager to believe that there is no complainant but in the absence of a complainant the ticket writer is the complainant. You need to figure out what is causing these complaints. I don't understand the point your pictures are intended to make. They show a poorly maintained side walk/right of way and a retaining wall that is leaning into the right of way. The vegetation above the retaining wall is not encroaching into the right of way but still this is not a picture you want to produce in court. This picture speaks of long term neglect. Since you've now received multiple tickets you should try to do what is necessary to prevent a city work crew from trimming your land at your expense. Perhaps you should get a landscaper in if you don't know what to do. Dave M. I hate to say it, but I agree. This yard looks virtually abandoned from the street level (picture a3). I much prefer the natural look, but this does not quite cut it. Natural is not the same as overgrown. One quick task that will make the property look better it to remove the weeds at the base of the walls. The vines draped over the wall do soften the edges, but they are also drawing attention to the base weeds. These plants are probably contributing to the weakness in the retaining wall as well by breaking the bricks with their roots. Next, selective thinning of the vines would be in order to make the upper parts of the garden look more tamed. Lastly, changing the vegetation of the devil strip from grass to a low maintenance, low growing groundcover will leave little maintenance. Or, get a reel mower and make mowing a 5 minute ritual on the weekends. -matt |
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In article , "Warren"
wrote: wrote:. This is the same implication that I expected the inspector might make at the hearing, so I was prepared with a clarifying photo: http://cpacker.org/a4.jpg I've seen sidewalks narrow, and occasionally curve. But that curve as it narrows in the middle of a slab, with no difference in the apparent vintage of the concrete very much looks like it's not the pavement that narrows, but the vegetation that's overgrowing unevenly. There also appears to be a plethora of noxious weeds mixed in there, too. This picture may put the rest into better context, but I'm afraid not in a favorable light for you. It also highlights the disrepair of the retaining wall. Lush vegetation, ala cottage garden, is one thing. But this last picture pretty much clears-up that this isn't lush vegetation, but an unmaintained and unmanaged yard. The more you tell us, the more it's looking like you're not just an innocent victim with an alternative landscape plan, but someone who has let the weeds take over, and the retaining wall deteriorate. If you're going to bring in pictures to defend your yard care aesthetics, you could at least have swept-up the dead leaves, and pulled a few of the more obvious weeds before taking the pictures! Well I thought it looked nice. -paggers -- Get your Paghat the Ratgirl T-Shirt he http://www.paghat.com/giftshop.html "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot." -Thomas Jefferson |
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G Henslee wrote: After reviewing the pics the officer probably figured that retaining wall would be falling over in less than 6 mos anyway, and the overgrowth would take care of itself. Most of the houses older than 50 years around here have tilted walls. I've been monitoring mine for the 19 years since I've lived here and it's added about an inch to its outward tilt in that time. Bringing the retaining wall into this shows that you guys live in gated communities or similar lala lands. You'd fear to come into this part of town. Your standards are irrelevant. I welcome creative suggestions for my site that involve trimming or selective removal, -- (Charles Packer) ungoogled: mailboxATSIGNcpacker.org http://cpacker.org/whatnews |
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"Warren" wrote in message ... wrote: Bringing the retaining wall into this shows that you guys live in gated communities or similar lala lands. You'd fear to come into this part of town. Your standards are irrelevant. That's an awfully prejudicial remark. It always comes down to this. I'm surprised that the thread lasted this long without personal insults or the inclusion of the term "Mc Mansion." |
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Vox Humana wrote: "Warren" wrote in message ... wrote: Bringing the retaining wall into this shows that you guys live in gated communities or similar lala lands. You'd fear to come into this part of town. Your standards are irrelevant. That's an awfully prejudicial remark. It always comes down to this. I'm surprised that the thread lasted this long without personal insults or the inclusion of the term "Mc Mansion." On reconsideration, I would have removed the reference to gated communities, but I was in a rush to log off and get to the office, so I didn't have time to reread and reflect. However, my remark about inapplicable standards would stand. Indeed, had the government appeared at the hearing, one of my tactics would have been to ask if the inspector lived anywhere nearby, after establishing that there was no citizen complainant. Anyway, I see this thread _is_ on the way to a common Usenet demise... -- (Charles Packer) ungoogled: mailboxATSIGNcpacker.org http://cpacker.org/whatnews |
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wrote in message oups.com... Indeed, had the government appeared at the hearing, one of my tactics would have been to ask if the inspector lived anywhere nearby, after establishing that there was no citizen complainant. I don't follow that logic. Does the code state that a citizen complaint is required to initiate an investigation? Does your code enforcement agency accept anonymous complaints? The problem with enforcement of such codes is that they generally lack an objective standard. Therefore, the conversation is subvert to subtopics such as whether the code should exist or if people on one side of the argument or the other are "bad" people. As you can see, when you post pictures you will get as many opinions as there are respondents. If you posted pictures of Longwood Gardens, some would say that it was the most hideous place they had ever seen and declare it's occupants anal-retentive, obsessive-compulsive, Eurocentric control freaks who have raped the environment to build a Mc Mansion and who's goal is to poison the environment and release non-native plants into a fragile ecosystem. |
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Vox Humana wrote:
"Warren" wrote in message ... wrote: Bringing the retaining wall into this shows that you guys live in gated communities or similar lala lands. You'd fear to come into this part of town. Your standards are irrelevant. That's an awfully prejudicial remark. It always comes down to this. I'm surprised that the thread lasted this long without personal insults or the inclusion of the term "Mc Mansion." But looking at the photo at http://cpacker.org/a3.jpg I would have to say that it does look about half reverted to the wild. Then again, I'm pretty old-school northern-euro in my aesthetics of a "well kept yard". http://www.earthops.net/now/now-west.jpg (realtime) would give you an ideal of the general aesthetic in my own neighborhood. -- The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may often assume the appearance, and produce the effects, of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy. --Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" ================================================== ================ "Sometimes, Evil drives a mini-van." --Desperate Housewives |
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Tiny Human Ferret wrote:
Vox Humana wrote: "Warren" wrote in message ... wrote: Bringing the retaining wall into this shows that you guys live in gated communities or similar lala lands. You'd fear to come into this part of town. Your standards are irrelevant. That's an awfully prejudicial remark. It always comes down to this. I'm surprised that the thread lasted this long without personal insults or the inclusion of the term "Mc Mansion." But looking at the photo at http://cpacker.org/a3.jpg I would have to say that it does look about half reverted to the wild. Then again, I'm pretty old-school northern-euro in my aesthetics of a "well kept yard". http://www.earthops.net/now/now-west.jpg (realtime) would give you an ideal of the general aesthetic in my own neighborhood. In other words somewhat neat and trimmed. Unlike that overgrown unkept vegetation and retaining wall of Packer's. |
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On reconsideration, I would have removed the reference to gated communities, but I was in a rush to log off and get to the office, so I didn't have time to reread and reflect. However, my remark about inapplicable standards would stand. Picking a few of the obvious weeds and sweeping the sidewalk before taking a picture is an inapplicable standard? -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. Have an outdoor project? Get a Black & Decker power tool:: http://www.holzemville.com/mall/blackanddecker/ |
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Warren wrote:
wrote: On reconsideration, I would have removed the reference to gated communities, but I was in a rush to log off and get to the office, so I didn't have time to reread and reflect. However, my remark about inapplicable standards would stand. Picking a few of the obvious weeds and sweeping the sidewalk before taking a picture is an inapplicable standard? This guy's property looks like crap. Period. I bet his neighbors just love him. So much they called in a complaint to the city about him. http://cpacker.org/a4.jpg ps. He better fix that retaining wall he's so proud of before it falls over. Maybe if it did he'd finally clean that jungle. |
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