Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Mike wrote:
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:


Jim Ledford wrote:

Mike wrote:

Jim Ledford wrote:

Mike wrote:

Srgnt Billko wrote:

synergy3000 wrote:

I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The
dirt

[....]

I'm not sure who the NCDACS is,

North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services



but where I live the MOE recomends chicken
poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers.

synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of
the environment ought to be banned.

They do suck a lot. Most customers request it since it provides the best
results, however we atleast usea 50% organic/synthetic mix, which is a
little better. And for our organic customers they get chicken poop with
acedic acid/yucca for weed control.



You know, if you do like I do, and every time you cut the grass, just
pile it all in a wheelbarrow, roll it 'round back & put it on the
compost pile, you don't ever have to buy chemical fertilizers.

Does help to use a pitch-fork and turn the pile once in a while. That's
a good time to add in the vegetable scraps, coffee grounds & egg shells.

About once a year, I run it through a chipper/shredder & move it over to
the second pile. That's also a good time for cleaning up any volunteer
shrubbery & walnut trees and shred them into the second pile as well.
Anything 1/2" or more gets cut up for kindlin'

Second pile's also goes thru the shredder (with the fine screen) & gets
moved to the third pile.

To me, the third pile looks just like the topsoil they sell in bags at
Lowes or Home Depot.

Plus you never gotta' buy bait. There's plenty of worms in there if ya'
wanna' go fishin'.


--

These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on
me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for
any Government, Commercial or Educational institution.

John

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Mike wrote:

"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message
...

Mike wrote:

I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE
recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic
fertalizers.

I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other
viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition
- while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly
match the plant's chemical needs.

I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a
biohazard symbol on them.



Compost it & the heat it generates will sterilize it for you.

--

These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on
me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for
any Government, Commercial or Educational institution.

John

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:

Jim Ledford wrote:


synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of
the environment ought to be banned.

LOL. And return to the days of e coli, cholera, listeria,
dysentery, and foodstuffs mishapen and unappealing due
to proper mineral balance?

BTW - there's nothing "synthetic" about chemical fertilizers.
Chemically, there is no difference whatsoever - except for
uniform composition and lack of impurities.
Science - not voodoo traditions.

http://www.lesco.com/

most likely you're not in the lawn care business and as such
I'd not expect you to be aware of Lesco products as well as
have an in-depth understanding for how Lesco has used science
and field test research to advance their product line well past
that of all other producers. Lesco products cost more, however
for the sake of the environment they are well worth the investment.


best,
Jim

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

"Mike" wrote in message
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"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:


I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE
recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic
fertalizers.

I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other
viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition
- while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly
match the plant's chemical needs.
I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a
biohazard symbol on them.


LOL - never thought of buying chicken manure by the bag.. Pickup truck
yes - bag no !! Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ?

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

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Mike wrote:
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:


Jim Ledford wrote:

Mike wrote:

Jim Ledford wrote:

Mike wrote:

Srgnt Billko wrote:

synergy3000 wrote:

I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The
dirt

[....]

I'm not sure who the NCDACS is,

North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services



but where I live the MOE recomends chicken
poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers.

synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of
the environment ought to be banned.

They do suck a lot. Most customers request it since it provides the best
results, however we atleast usea 50% organic/synthetic mix, which is a
little better. And for our organic customers they get chicken poop with
acedic acid/yucca for weed control.

You know, if you do like I do, and every time you cut the grass, just pile
it all in a wheelbarrow, roll it 'round back & put it on the compost pile,
you don't ever have to buy chemical fertilizers.

Does help to use a pitch-fork and turn the pile once in a while. That's a
good time to add in the vegetable scraps, coffee grounds & egg shells.

About once a year, I run it through a chipper/shredder & move it over to
the second pile. That's also a good time for cleaning up any volunteer
shrubbery & walnut trees and shred them into the second pile as well.
Anything 1/2" or more gets cut up for kindlin'

Second pile's also goes thru the shredder (with the fine screen) & gets
moved to the third pile.

To me, the third pile looks just like the topsoil they sell in bags at
Lowes or Home Depot.

Plus you never gotta' buy bait. There's plenty of worms in there if ya'
wanna' go fishin'.


--

These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on
me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any
Government, Commercial or Educational institution.

John

And hope that fine roots don't invade your pile and make it so bound up you
can't get a shovel in it.

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

"Jim Ledford" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:

Jim Ledford wrote:
Mike wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Mike wrote:
Srgnt Billko wrote:
synergy3000 wrote:
I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The
dirt
[....]
I'm not sure who the NCDACS is,

North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services


but where I live the MOE recomends chicken
poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers.

synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of
the environment ought to be banned.

And warn the unaware - not to use fresh chicken manure cause it burns the
vegetation. What are poultry farmers using for floor cover in your area ?
Hate like hell to have 75% woodchips spread over my lawn.

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:25:39 GMT, "Srgnt Billko"
wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message
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"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:


I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE
recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic
fertalizers.

I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other
viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition
- while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly
match the plant's chemical needs.
I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a
biohazard symbol on them.


LOL - never thought of buying chicken manure by the bag.. Pickup truck
yes - bag no !! Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ?



Sterilied mouse turds, in little tiny bags you can put in your
walls, with a plastic dishwasher-safe reusable applicator.


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Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Srgnt Billko wrote:

[...] Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ?

We had plenty of that during the Carter administration...

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

wrote:

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:31:59 GMT, wrote:

Sterilied mouse turds, in little tiny bags you can put in your
walls, with a plastic dishwasher-safe reusable applicator.

That might just become the code in Cary for wall insulation!

I can see the rack in Cary Home Depots now: *color co-ordinated*
matched sets of dishwasher-safe reusable applicators (with
carbon-fiber handles), $90 ...

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:
Srgnt Billko wrote:

[...] Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ?

We had plenty of that during the Carter administration...

It's still available today for the people that want a natural fertilizer.
(hello)

btw.. have you ever used milorganite.... or you just deposit it?

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Srgnt Billko wrote:

"no_name" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"Jim Ledford" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:



Jim Ledford wrote:


Mike wrote:


Jim Ledford wrote:


Mike wrote:


Srgnt Billko wrote:


synergy3000 wrote:


I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The
dirt

[....]


I'm not sure who the NCDACS is,

North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services




but where I live the MOE recomends chicken
poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers.

synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of
the environment ought to be banned.

They do suck a lot. Most customers request it since it provides the best
results, however we atleast usea 50% organic/synthetic mix, which is a
little better. And for our organic customers they get chicken poop with
acedic acid/yucca for weed control.

You know, if you do like I do, and every time you cut the grass, just pile
it all in a wheelbarrow, roll it 'round back & put it on the compost pile,
you don't ever have to buy chemical fertilizers.

Does help to use a pitch-fork and turn the pile once in a while. That's a
good time to add in the vegetable scraps, coffee grounds & egg shells.

About once a year, I run it through a chipper/shredder & move it over to
the second pile. That's also a good time for cleaning up any volunteer
shrubbery & walnut trees and shred them into the second pile as well.
Anything 1/2" or more gets cut up for kindlin'

Second pile's also goes thru the shredder (with the fine screen) & gets
moved to the third pile.

To me, the third pile looks just like the topsoil they sell in bags at
Lowes or Home Depot.

Plus you never gotta' buy bait. There's plenty of worms in there if ya'
wanna' go fishin'.


And hope that fine roots don't invade your pile and make it so bound up you
can't get a shovel in it.



Ain't happened in the last 20 years or so since I been composting, but
I'll watch out for it.

--

These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on
me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for
any Government, Commercial or Educational institution.

John

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

Compost, compost, compost.

A thin layer of well-rotted manure, instead of topsoil, will help, but
you may need to do it a few years in a row.

My soil has poor nutrition and compacts easily, I am working on
increasing the humus content by addng manure and mulching fall leaves.
Topsoil is a gamble when it comes to humus content.

In four years, my lawn soil is softer and the grass doesn't brown out
as fast in summer. Still a ways to go yet.


On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:58:08 -0400, synergy3000
wrote:

I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is
pretty crappy. Hard and clay like.

Poor soil (dirt) quality
 

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:25:39 GMT, "Srgnt Billko"
wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message
...

"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:


I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE
recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic
fertalizers.

I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other
viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition
- while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly
match the plant's chemical needs.
I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a
biohazard symbol on them.


LOL - never thought of buying chicken manure by the bag.. Pickup truck
yes - bag no !! Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ?

Ever eat at Micky D's ?


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Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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