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Poor soil (dirt) quality
I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is
pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks |
Poor soil (dirt) quality
"synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Good topsoil is $20/yard where i live, depending on the size of yard it could be anywhere from a hundred to a few hundred. |
Poor soil (dirt) quality
"synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. |
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"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message ... "synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. Unless its been farmed to shit! |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... "Srgnt Billko" wrote in message ... "synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. Unless its been farmed to shit! Is that supposed to be a pun ? Cow shit or chicken shit ? Even if it has been harvested without fertilization (unlikely) the soil should still be nice and loose and strong enough to grow grass. |
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Mike wrote:
Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? |
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:31:09 -0400, Jim Ledford
wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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..p.jm wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. |
Poor soil (dirt) quality
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... .p.jm wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. Paul is on a lot of peoples fecal roster. |
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me wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: .p.jm wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. Paul is on a lot of peoples fecal roster. I have to wonder how is it the parents know to name them paul. or could possibly be once named paul it's all down hill from there? |
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:45:55 -0400, Jim Ledford
wrote: .p.jm wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. But not man-made excrement ? -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
Poor soil (dirt) quality
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:57:59 -0400, "me" wrote:
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... .p.jm wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. Paul is on a lot of peoples fecal roster. Purest bovine scatology. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
Poor soil (dirt) quality
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:04:17 -0400, Jim Ledford
wrote: me wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: .p.jm wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. Paul is on a lot of peoples fecal roster. I have to wonder how is it the parents know to name them paul. or could possibly be once named paul it's all down hill from there? Paul, Saul, it's all the same. Just don't call me late for dinner. Jim-bob. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
Poor soil (dirt) quality
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? We use chicken shit for 100% organic lawn fert for some customers. |
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"Jim Ledford" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Its easier for mass building of homes to scrape the land of topsoil. You can't pour a concrete slab on wishwashy soil. More difficult for heavy trucks to move in that soil, especially concrete trucks. It is odd the builder didn't just put the topsoil back when the house was completed. Guess it was the minor cost in doing that. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? |
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Jonny wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Its easier for mass building of homes to scrape the land of topsoil. You can't pour a concrete slab on wishwashy soil. More difficult for heavy trucks to move in that soil, especially concrete trucks. It is odd the builder didn't just put the topsoil back when the house was completed. Guess it was the minor cost in doing that. yep. telling from that point of view works every time. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. |
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Mike wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? We use chicken shit for 100% organic lawn fert for some customers. that causes me to wonder if certification by the NCDACS would be required before allowing said lawn care works to make such an application? most likely, there'd be an unaddressed loop hole somewhere in this one. |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
.p.jm wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? No shit ? excrement for the more so called refined. Manure. -- These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any Government, Commercial or Educational institution. John |
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synergy3000 wrote:
I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks A couple years ago, I tried to improve the soil by spreading a layer of top soil over the lawn. This involved manually spreading the top-soil, and then use a large and wide landscape rake to smoothen the top soil in order to prevent the top soil from smashing the grass. So far, I am not sure if this has really helped anything. I cannot tell one way or the other. Please note that spreading top soil is a very time consuming and tiring process. I only have a 1/4 arce property (with around 1/2 of the property is lawn) and I was/am physically fit. Nevertheless, I was very very tired after I had spreaded the top soil (took 2 days). I promise myself never do this again unless I am doing this in very small areas (like re-seeding bare spots in the lawn). Please think twice before committing yourself to this course of action. I also use mulching instead of bagging when I mow the lawn hoping that this will add organic matters to the soil, and may improve the soil quality. Again, I don't know if this really helps or not; but this should not harm even if this doesn't help. Jay Chan |
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synergy3000 wrote:
I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks You can't put much more than 1/2 to 1 inch of soil on existing turf and have it survive. How many square feet is it? |
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"Mike" wrote:
"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message ... "synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. Unless its been farmed to shit! It's lacking the shit. (organics) |
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"Srgnt Billko" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message ... "Srgnt Billko" wrote in message ... "synergy3000" wrote in message ... I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. Unless its been farmed to shit! Is that supposed to be a pun ? Cow shit or chicken shit ? Even if it has been harvested without fertilization (unlikely) the soil should still be nice and loose and strong enough to grow grass. Someone sold the top soil years ago. That ain't no farm. |
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"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? We use chicken shit for 100% organic lawn fert for some customers. that causes me to wonder if certification by the NCDACS would be required before allowing said lawn care works to make such an application? most likely, there'd be an unaddressed loop hole somewhere in this one. I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. Wow that was a struggle, my R key is pooched! |
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Mike wrote:
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt is pretty crappy. Hard and clay like. The builder seeded the lot with tall fescue which managed to grow ok. The lawn still looks a pale green to yellow in areas. Any suggestion on how to build up the soil quality in my yard? I've heard one suggestion of having top soil brought in. How pricey would that be? Any other suggestions? Thanks Geez - on old farm land - there has to be some decent top soil pretty close by. yep. it was not hauled all that far away just after it was scraped off and loaded on trucks. see, later after the newcomer decides how they'd like to have a lawn the same original top soil can be sold back to them. seems it's really all about maximum profits and profitability. Unless its been farmed to shit! funny you should mention shit or maybe I should refer to the substance as chicken droppings. did you know organically certified produce must be grown without man made chemical fertilizers? guess what we sometimes use in the place of those man made chemical fertilizers? We use chicken shit for 100% organic lawn fert for some customers. that causes me to wonder if certification by the NCDACS would be required before allowing said lawn care works to make such an application? most likely, there'd be an unaddressed loop hole somewhere in this one. I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. Wow that was a struggle, my R key is pooched! North Carolina Dept of Agriculture & Consumer Services http://www.ncagr.com/ -- These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any Government, Commercial or Educational institution. John |
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Mike wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt [....] I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. |
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"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt [....] I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. They do suck a lot. Most customers request it since it provides the best results, however we atleast usea 50% organic/synthetic mix, which is a little better. And for our organic customers they get chicken poop with acedic acid/yucca for weed control. |
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Mike wrote:
I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition - while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly match the plant's chemical needs. |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. LOL. And return to the days of e coli, cholera, listeria, dysentery, and foodstuffs mishapen and unappealing due to proper mineral balance? BTW - there's nothing "synthetic" about chemical fertilizers. Chemically, there is no difference whatsoever - except for uniform composition and lack of impurities. Science - not voodoo traditions. |
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"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition - while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly match the plant's chemical needs. I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a biohazard symbol on them. |
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Mike wrote:
"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt [....] I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. They do suck a lot. Most customers request it since it provides the best results, however we atleast usea 50% organic/synthetic mix, which is a little better. And for our organic customers they get chicken poop with acedic acid/yucca for weed control. You know, if you do like I do, and every time you cut the grass, just pile it all in a wheelbarrow, roll it 'round back & put it on the compost pile, you don't ever have to buy chemical fertilizers. Does help to use a pitch-fork and turn the pile once in a while. That's a good time to add in the vegetable scraps, coffee grounds & egg shells. About once a year, I run it through a chipper/shredder & move it over to the second pile. That's also a good time for cleaning up any volunteer shrubbery & walnut trees and shred them into the second pile as well. Anything 1/2" or more gets cut up for kindlin' Second pile's also goes thru the shredder (with the fine screen) & gets moved to the third pile. To me, the third pile looks just like the topsoil they sell in bags at Lowes or Home Depot. Plus you never gotta' buy bait. There's plenty of worms in there if ya' wanna' go fishin'. -- These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any Government, Commercial or Educational institution. John |
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Mike wrote:
"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition - while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly match the plant's chemical needs. I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a biohazard symbol on them. Compost it & the heat it generates will sterilize it for you. -- These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any Government, Commercial or Educational institution. John |
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Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote: synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. LOL. And return to the days of e coli, cholera, listeria, dysentery, and foodstuffs mishapen and unappealing due to proper mineral balance? BTW - there's nothing "synthetic" about chemical fertilizers. Chemically, there is no difference whatsoever - except for uniform composition and lack of impurities. Science - not voodoo traditions. http://www.lesco.com/ most likely you're not in the lawn care business and as such I'd not expect you to be aware of Lesco products as well as have an in-depth understanding for how Lesco has used science and field test research to advance their product line well past that of all other producers. Lesco products cost more, however for the sake of the environment they are well worth the investment. best, Jim |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... "Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition - while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly match the plant's chemical needs. I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a biohazard symbol on them. LOL - never thought of buying chicken manure by the bag.. Pickup truck yes - bag no !! Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ? |
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"no_name" wrote in message .. . Mike wrote: "Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt [....] I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. They do suck a lot. Most customers request it since it provides the best results, however we atleast usea 50% organic/synthetic mix, which is a little better. And for our organic customers they get chicken poop with acedic acid/yucca for weed control. You know, if you do like I do, and every time you cut the grass, just pile it all in a wheelbarrow, roll it 'round back & put it on the compost pile, you don't ever have to buy chemical fertilizers. Does help to use a pitch-fork and turn the pile once in a while. That's a good time to add in the vegetable scraps, coffee grounds & egg shells. About once a year, I run it through a chipper/shredder & move it over to the second pile. That's also a good time for cleaning up any volunteer shrubbery & walnut trees and shred them into the second pile as well. Anything 1/2" or more gets cut up for kindlin' Second pile's also goes thru the shredder (with the fine screen) & gets moved to the third pile. To me, the third pile looks just like the topsoil they sell in bags at Lowes or Home Depot. Plus you never gotta' buy bait. There's plenty of worms in there if ya' wanna' go fishin'. -- These are my views. If you've got a problem with it, you can blame it on me, but this is what I think. I am not the official spokes-person for any Government, Commercial or Educational institution. John And hope that fine roots don't invade your pile and make it so bound up you can't get a shovel in it. |
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"Jim Ledford" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Jim Ledford wrote: Mike wrote: Srgnt Billko wrote: synergy3000 wrote: I moved into a new house which was built on old farm land. The dirt [....] I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, North Carolina Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. synthetic fertilizers suck and for the sake of the environment ought to be banned. And warn the unaware - not to use fresh chicken manure cause it burns the vegetation. What are poultry farmers using for floor cover in your area ? Hate like hell to have 75% woodchips spread over my lawn. |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:25:39 GMT, "Srgnt Billko"
wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... "Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: I'm not sure who the NCDACS is, but where I live the MOE recomends chicken poop as a good alternative to synthetic fertalizers. I wonder why? One is full of bacteria (possibly with other viruses, parasites) - and of fluctuating chemical composition - while the other is sterile clean, and formulated to exactly match the plant's chemical needs. I believe that it is sterilized beforehand else the bags would have a biohazard symbol on them. LOL - never thought of buying chicken manure by the bag.. Pickup truck yes - bag no !! Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ? Sterilied mouse turds, in little tiny bags you can put in your walls, with a plastic dishwasher-safe reusable applicator. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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Srgnt Billko wrote:
[...] Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ? We had plenty of that during the Carter administration... |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:31:59 GMT, wrote: Sterilied mouse turds, in little tiny bags you can put in your walls, with a plastic dishwasher-safe reusable applicator. That might just become the code in Cary for wall insulation! I can see the rack in Cary Home Depots now: *color co-ordinated* matched sets of dishwasher-safe reusable applicators (with carbon-fiber handles), $90 ... |
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Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:
Srgnt Billko wrote: [...] Sterilized chicken shit ?? - what next ? We had plenty of that during the Carter administration... It's still available today for the people that want a natural fertilizer. (hello) btw.. have you ever used milorganite.... or you just deposit it? |
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