"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the hand pump, the
hand pump won't work.

Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the
hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

Depends on the pump - 1 of those little $15 short handle pumps, you
are correct - the larger long handle, long stroke with tight pipe and
good check valve, you are wrong. We use to hand pump from 60 feet
down to a tank on a platform 20 feet up before we got electric power.
We did finally hook a single cylinder gas engine to a jack stand to
operate the pump before getting electric to the farm. It would fill a
1000 gallon tank using 1/2 gallon of gasoline!! Yes, I'm talking about
a loooong time ago!!

Tom J

"Tom J" wrote in message
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Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

Depends on the pump - 1 of those little $15 short handle pumps, you are
correct - the larger long handle, long stroke with tight pipe and good
check valve, you are wrong. We use to hand pump from 60 feet down to a
tank on a platform 20 feet up before we got electric power. We did finally
hook a single cylinder gas engine to a jack stand to operate the pump
before getting electric to the farm. It would fill a 1000 gallon tank
using 1/2 gallon of gasoline!! Yes, I'm talking about a loooong time ago!!

Tom J

Type of pump doesn't matter unless it's a jet-pump. The theoretical maximum
height is about 27', practical height is about 22'.

"Chas Hurst" wrote in message
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"Tom J" wrote in message
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Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

Depends on the pump - 1 of those little $15 short handle pumps, you are
correct - the larger long handle, long stroke with tight pipe and good
check valve, you are wrong. We use to hand pump from 60 feet down to a
tank on a platform 20 feet up before we got electric power. We did
finally hook a single cylinder gas engine to a jack stand to operate the
pump before getting electric to the farm. It would fill a 1000 gallon
tank using 1/2 gallon of gasoline!! Yes, I'm talking about a loooong time
ago!!

Tom J

Type of pump doesn't matter unless it's a jet-pump. The theoretical
maximum height is about 27', practical height is about 22'.


He's having what one might call a "pipe dream".

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"Chas Hurst" wrote in message
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"Tom J" wrote in message
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Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

Depends on the pump - 1 of those little $15 short handle pumps, you are
correct - the larger long handle, long stroke with tight pipe and good
check valve, you are wrong. We use to hand pump from 60 feet down to a
tank on a platform 20 feet up before we got electric power. We did
finally hook a single cylinder gas engine to a jack stand to operate the
pump before getting electric to the farm. It would fill a 1000 gallon
tank using 1/2 gallon of gasoline!! Yes, I'm talking about a loooong
time ago!!

Tom J

Type of pump doesn't matter unless it's a jet-pump. The theoretical
maximum height is about 27', practical height is about 22'.


He's having what one might call a "pipe dream".

Bwahaha! Good 'un. How's the maple surple doing?

"Tom J" wrote in message
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Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

Depends on the pump - 1 of those little $15 short handle pumps, you are
correct - the larger long handle, long stroke with tight pipe and good check
valve, you are wrong. We use to hand pump from 60 feet down to a tank on a
platform 20 feet up before we got electric power. We did finally hook a single
cylinder gas engine to a jack stand to operate the pump before getting
electric to the farm. It would fill a 1000 gallon tank using 1/2 gallon of
gasoline!! Yes, I'm talking about a loooong time ago!!

Unless the actual pump mechanism is within 20 some feet of the water table, it
still won't work. The distance you can "suck" water up is limited by the
atmospheric pressure's ability to push the water up to the pump. If the pump
cylinder is 40 or more feet underground, then it would work as you say. Of
course, a 60 foot well with a 20 foot water table would be no problem.

Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the
hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-water-pump.html

Look at the 100L hand pump. The one we had back in the 1930's
wouldn't lift 500 feet like this will but it DID do what I said it
did!! Some people just don't have a clue and all they know to do is
turn on the faucet.

Tom J

"Tom J" wrote in message
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Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-water-pump.html

Look at the 100L hand pump. The one we had back in the 1930's wouldn't
lift 500 feet like this will but it DID do what I said it did!! Some
people just don't have a clue and all they know to do is turn on the
faucet.

Tom J

Those systems place the pump down in the well within 22' of the water. You
obviously are not aware of the physics or mechanics involved with pumping
water. The atmosphere will only support a column of water about 29' high.
It's exactly the same as a mercury barometer. The atmosphere will support a
column of mercury about 30" high and no more.
It's you that hasn't a clue.

"Tom J" wrote in message
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Bob F wrote:
"rb" wrote in message
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Yes. The idea is to get water with no power, at least cost.


Unless the water table is within 22 or so feet vertically of the hand
pump, the hand pump won't work.

http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-water-pump.html

Look at the 100L hand pump. The one we had back in the 1930's wouldn't lift
500 feet like this will but it DID do what I said it did!! Some people just
don't have a clue and all they know to do is turn on the faucet.


Those units put the pump at the bottom of the well, so they are pushing the
water up, not "sucking" it up, overcoming the air pressure limits. Unless the
O.P. has room in his well for such a pump, it won't work. He can't just hook a
pump to the water pipe from the well, which is what I interpreted his question
to be asking.