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Steve Wolfe 31-03-2004 05:19 AM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
And prone to leaf spot, dollar spot,and numerous other turf fungus.

It makes it grow so fast you can cut it every two or three days
in the spring too. Yea, great stuff.


Now I can see those things happening if I went out and spread the stuff
every week. But we're talking about a lawn that hadn't seen an ounce of
nitrogen (or any other care) in five or six years. It didn't hurt a thing.
It's been two years, and I haven't seen a single problem that you've been
talking about. I only have to mow mine about every 7 days in the spring,
but you might get a lot more water than we do.

steve




Steveo 31-03-2004 05:20 AM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
"Steve Wolfe" wrote:
And prone to leaf spot, dollar spot,and numerous other turf fungus.

It makes it grow so fast you can cut it every two or three days
in the spring too. Yea, great stuff.


Now I can see those things happening if I went out and spread the
stuff every week. But we're talking about a lawn that hadn't seen an
ounce of nitrogen (or any other care) in five or six years. It didn't
hurt a thing. It's been two years, and I haven't seen a single problem
that you've been talking about. I only have to mow mine about every 7
days in the spring, but you might get a lot more water than we do.

steve

Why wouldn't you want to use a complete fertilizer? You're feeding
your lawn candy canes with that stuff.

Steve Wolfe 31-03-2004 07:34 AM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
Why wouldn't you want to use a complete fertilizer? You're feeding
your lawn candy canes with that stuff.


Candy canes, huh? Wow. I'm completely amazed. One of the most
heavily-used elements in any living organism, and you call it candy canes.

Do you happen to think that the grass will take up nitrogen in abundance,
and somehow deposit it somewhere like fat? Or do you believe that it will
somehow go ahead and build it's tissues completely out of nitrogen, leaving
out other elements? I would be very, very interested in hearing about just
why you think it's "candy canes". Finding out how plants' use of nitrogen
correlates to an animal's use of sugar would be oh-so-fascinating.

(Besides, you seem to have missed the part where I said that I cut the
ammonium sulfate into a much larger quantity of more balanced fertilizer.)

steve



icarii 31-03-2004 08:02 AM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
(Besides, you seem to have missed the part where I said that I cut the
ammonium sulfate into a much larger quantity of more balanced fertilizer.)

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"Steve Wolfe" wrote in message
...
Why wouldn't you want to use a complete fertilizer? You're feeding
your lawn candy canes with that stuff.


Candy canes, huh? Wow. I'm completely amazed. One of the most
heavily-used elements in any living organism, and you call it candy canes.

Do you happen to think that the grass will take up nitrogen in

abundance,
and somehow deposit it somewhere like fat? Or do you believe that it will
somehow go ahead and build it's tissues completely out of nitrogen,

leaving
out other elements? I would be very, very interested in hearing about

just
why you think it's "candy canes". Finding out how plants' use of nitrogen
correlates to an animal's use of sugar would be oh-so-fascinating.

(Besides, you seem to have missed the part where I said that I cut the
ammonium sulfate into a much larger quantity of more balanced fertilizer.)

steve





Steveo 01-04-2004 07:26 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
"Steve Wolfe" wrote:
Why wouldn't you want to use a complete fertilizer? You're feeding
your lawn candy canes with that stuff.


Candy canes, huh? Wow. I'm completely amazed. One of the most
heavily-used elements in any living organism, and you call it candy
canes.

Do you happen to think that the grass will take up nitrogen in
abundance, and somehow deposit it somewhere like fat? Or do you believe
that it will somehow go ahead and build it's tissues completely out of
nitrogen, leaving out other elements? I would be very, very interested
in hearing about just why you think it's "candy canes". Finding out how
plants' use of nitrogen correlates to an animal's use of sugar would be
oh-so-fascinating.

(Besides, you seem to have missed the part where I said that I cut the
ammonium sulfate into a much larger quantity of more balanced
fertilizer.)

steve

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.

Steveo 01-04-2004 07:26 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
"Steve Wolfe" wrote:
Why wouldn't you want to use a complete fertilizer? You're feeding
your lawn candy canes with that stuff.


Candy canes, huh? Wow. I'm completely amazed. One of the most
heavily-used elements in any living organism, and you call it candy
canes.

Do you happen to think that the grass will take up nitrogen in
abundance, and somehow deposit it somewhere like fat? Or do you believe
that it will somehow go ahead and build it's tissues completely out of
nitrogen, leaving out other elements? I would be very, very interested
in hearing about just why you think it's "candy canes". Finding out how
plants' use of nitrogen correlates to an animal's use of sugar would be
oh-so-fascinating.

(Besides, you seem to have missed the part where I said that I cut the
ammonium sulfate into a much larger quantity of more balanced
fertilizer.)

steve

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.

Steveo 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
"Steve Wolfe" wrote:
Why wouldn't you want to use a complete fertilizer? You're feeding
your lawn candy canes with that stuff.


Candy canes, huh? Wow. I'm completely amazed. One of the most
heavily-used elements in any living organism, and you call it candy
canes.

Do you happen to think that the grass will take up nitrogen in
abundance, and somehow deposit it somewhere like fat? Or do you believe
that it will somehow go ahead and build it's tissues completely out of
nitrogen, leaving out other elements? I would be very, very interested
in hearing about just why you think it's "candy canes". Finding out how
plants' use of nitrogen correlates to an animal's use of sugar would be
oh-so-fascinating.

(Besides, you seem to have missed the part where I said that I cut the
ammonium sulfate into a much larger quantity of more balanced
fertilizer.)

steve

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.

Steveo 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
"Steve Wolfe" wrote:
Why wouldn't you want to use a complete fertilizer? You're feeding
your lawn candy canes with that stuff.


Candy canes, huh? Wow. I'm completely amazed. One of the most
heavily-used elements in any living organism, and you call it candy
canes.

Do you happen to think that the grass will take up nitrogen in
abundance, and somehow deposit it somewhere like fat? Or do you believe
that it will somehow go ahead and build it's tissues completely out of
nitrogen, leaving out other elements? I would be very, very interested
in hearing about just why you think it's "candy canes". Finding out how
plants' use of nitrogen correlates to an animal's use of sugar would be
oh-so-fascinating.

(Besides, you seem to have missed the part where I said that I cut the
ammonium sulfate into a much larger quantity of more balanced
fertilizer.)

steve

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.

Steve Wolfe 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.


Wow, one pound, and I'm set for life! Or, as so many other things, did
you forget that time plays a factor?

Perhaps you could tell us what happens to the nitrogen demand of soil
year after year when it's not receiving said application.

steve



Steve Wolfe 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.


Wow, one pound, and I'm set for life! Or, as so many other things, did
you forget that time plays a factor?

Perhaps you could tell us what happens to the nitrogen demand of soil
year after year when it's not receiving said application.

steve



Steve Wolfe 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.


I'm still waiting to hear your answers to my questions. I'm still
assuming that you're capable of talking about facts and presenting ideas,
and that flinging around words like "fetish" isn't the only defence you
have when your position is challenged. Of course, I could be wrong, but
I'm still waiting to see if you can address my points before I jump to any
conclusions.

As a recap, I'd like to hear just what your reasoning is for comparing
the uptake of nitrogen in plants to the use of sugar in animals. I'm also
waiting to hear just what you thing happens when there's more nitrogen in
the soil than the grass needs. If you want people to come around to your
way of thinking, present them with evidence and ideas.

steve



Steve Wolfe 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.


I'm still waiting to hear your answers to my questions. I'm still
assuming that you're capable of talking about facts and presenting ideas,
and that flinging around words like "fetish" isn't the only defence you
have when your position is challenged. Of course, I could be wrong, but
I'm still waiting to see if you can address my points before I jump to any
conclusions.

As a recap, I'd like to hear just what your reasoning is for comparing
the uptake of nitrogen in plants to the use of sugar in animals. I'm also
waiting to hear just what you thing happens when there's more nitrogen in
the soil than the grass needs. If you want people to come around to your
way of thinking, present them with evidence and ideas.

steve



icarii 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
1 Application = 1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft
Meaning this is all that is needed when your fert your lawn
20-2-20 = 5 lbs of fert per 1000 sq feet

"Steve Wolfe" wrote in message
...

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.


Wow, one pound, and I'm set for life! Or, as so many other things, did
you forget that time plays a factor?

Perhaps you could tell us what happens to the nitrogen demand of soil
year after year when it's not receiving said application.

steve





icarii 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
1 Application = 1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft
Meaning this is all that is needed when your fert your lawn
20-2-20 = 5 lbs of fert per 1000 sq feet

"Steve Wolfe" wrote in message
...

1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.


Wow, one pound, and I'm set for life! Or, as so many other things, did
you forget that time plays a factor?

Perhaps you could tell us what happens to the nitrogen demand of soil
year after year when it's not receiving said application.

steve





Steveo 01-04-2004 08:19 PM

Fertilized, then aerated?
 
"Steve Wolfe" wrote:
1 pound of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft is -all- you need. Don't
try to re-write chemical lawncare with your Nitrogen fetish.


I'm still waiting to hear your answers to my questions. I'm still
assuming that you're capable of talking about facts and presenting ideas,
and that flinging around words like "fetish" isn't the only defence you
have when your position is challenged. Of course, I could be wrong, but
I'm still waiting to see if you can address my points before I jump to
any conclusions.

As a recap, I'd like to hear just what your reasoning is for comparing
the uptake of nitrogen in plants to the use of sugar in animals. I'm
also waiting to hear just what you thing happens when there's more
nitrogen in the soil than the grass needs. If you want people to come
around to your way of thinking, present them with evidence and ideas.

steve

I don't think anyone is going to change your mind, your lawn will
have to suffer the consequences for that to happen.

Ever hear of Nitrogen run-off contamination of ground water? It's
people like you who contribute to it, with product abuse.

http://tinyurl.com/2bno5

Over use of Nitrogen promotes surge growth and disease in turf-grass.
You can also burn your turf easily with it.

I'm trying to help people here, your recipe for disaster needs
to be pointed out.

HTH


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