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C.K.T. 21-06-2003 01:08 AM

age of orchids
 
Hello everybody,

Great to find this groep!

I have some Phalenopsis, Dendrobium and Paphiopedilum.

I wonder how old these orchids can become. Someone around who knows that?

Thanks,

ckt




Gene Schurg 21-06-2003 01:20 AM

age of orchids
 
With proper care they can live indefinately.

Earlier this week I visited Tropic 1 orchids where they had a huge old vanda
that was at least 17 years old. It had about 20 different leads and about
20 spikes of flowers. Unbelievable!

Gene



"C.K.T." wrote in message
...
Hello everybody,

Great to find this groep!

I have some Phalenopsis, Dendrobium and Paphiopedilum.

I wonder how old these orchids can become. Someone around who knows that?

Thanks,

ckt






Bolero 21-06-2003 02:44 AM

age of orchids
 
Yes they can outlive you.


"C.K.T." wrote in message
...
Hello everybody,

Great to find this groep!

I have some Phalenopsis, Dendrobium and Paphiopedilum.

I wonder how old these orchids can become. Someone around who knows that?

Thanks,

ckt






Mick Fournier 21-06-2003 03:20 AM

age of orchids
 
CKT

There have certainly been times that I thought the lifespan of an orchid was
dependent on the price you paid for it.

$1-$5 10 years
$6-$15 8 years
$16-$35 6 years
$36-$75 3 years
$76-$250 2 years
$251-$500 1 year
$500-$2000 9 months
over $2000 is anybody's guess

Mick



"C.K.T." wrote in message
...
Hello everybody,

Great to find this groep!

I have some Phalenopsis, Dendrobium and Paphiopedilum.

I wonder how old these orchids can become. Someone around who knows that?

Thanks,

ckt





Susan Erickson 21-06-2003 05:32 AM

age of orchids
 
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:12:33 -0400, "Mick Fournier"
wrote:

CKT

There have certainly been times that I thought the lifespan of an orchid was
dependent on the price you paid for it.

$1-$5 10 years
$6-$15 8 years
$16-$35 6 years
$36-$75 3 years
$76-$250 2 years
$251-$500 1 year
$500-$2000 9 months
over $2000 is anybody's guess

Mick

G Mick - You have done it again. You have NAILED it down
concisely. It can also be graded by the length of time it took
you to find the particular plant you wanted.

Seriously I have a Catt and John has a Paph. That were given to
us over 20 years ago. The grower said he had grown the catt for
over 10 year. I have seen Den's with enough canes to look like a
bamboo clump. Such growth takes years of care if you are to
maintain the leaves.

SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Reka 21-06-2003 03:56 PM

age of orchids
 

"Mick Fournier" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
CKT

There have certainly been times that I thought the lifespan of an orchid

was
dependent on the price you paid for it.

$1-$5 10 years
$6-$15 8 years
$16-$35 6 years
$36-$75 3 years
$76-$250 2 years
$251-$500 1 year
$500-$2000 9 months
over $2000 is anybody's guess

Gee, then I have gotten some expensive orchids at a really good price!
grin
--
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TRAINMAN9 22-06-2003 03:20 PM

age of orchids
 
With proper care they can live indefinately.


Anyone who has a division of any of the early paph hybrids has plants that are
over 100 years old.

Chris Savas 23-06-2003 12:08 AM

age of orchids
 
I agree, but you failed to estimate the life span of a swapped or gift
plant/division. I had one that lasted only 31 years.

Regards,
Chris

In article , "Mick Fournier"
wrote:
CKT

There have certainly been times that I thought the lifespan of an orchid was
dependent on the price you paid for it.

$1-$5 10 years
$6-$15 8 years
$16-$35 6 years
$36-$75 3 years
$76-$250 2 years
$251-$500 1 year
$500-$2000 9 months
over $2000 is anybody's guess

Mick



"C.K.T." wrote in message
...
Hello everybody,

Great to find this groep!

I have some Phalenopsis, Dendrobium and Paphiopedilum.

I wonder how old these orchids can become. Someone around who knows that?

Thanks,

ckt





Bryan 23-06-2003 12:44 AM

age of orchids
 
If orchids can live "forever" then that would put them in a special
category not shared by ANY OTHER living thing in known existence..
Genetic material does decay... Eventually..
No matter how old the plant, or how many times it has devided or grown
new crowns, the genetic structure is as old as the original seedling.
In other words, if the DNA is not refreshed by reproduction, and
sowing of new seed, then like anything else, the life sustaining force
of the genetic structure does eventually die out.
True, with orchids, this may take in excess of 150 years to occur,
given optimum culture... But it will happen.


"Bolero" wrote in message . au...
Yes they can outlive you.


"C.K.T." wrote in message
...
Hello everybody,

Great to find this groep!

I have some Phalenopsis, Dendrobium and Paphiopedilum.

I wonder how old these orchids can become. Someone around who knows that?

Thanks,

ckt




Mick Fournier 23-06-2003 12:44 AM

age of orchids
 
Chris,

Yes, you are indeed correct.

Gift orchids (ie "unloads" from the first grower) will last a minimum of 15
years.

Mick
-------------------------------



"Chris Savas" wrote in message
...
I agree, but you failed to estimate the life span of a swapped or gift
plant/division. I had one that lasted only 31 years.

Regards,
Chris





Bolero 23-06-2003 08:08 AM

age of orchids
 
Oh ok, well you will never be around to find out then huh?

I believe there are some very old plants around that show no signs of dying
but I guess eventually it must come to an end.

But if it isn't going to happen in my lifetime then I really can't measure
it.

Maybe it would take 1000 years? It may be a while before anyone knows
anyway.

"Bryan" wrote in message
om...
If orchids can live "forever" then that would put them in a special
category not shared by ANY OTHER living thing in known existence..
Genetic material does decay... Eventually..
No matter how old the plant, or how many times it has devided or grown
new crowns, the genetic structure is as old as the original seedling.
In other words, if the DNA is not refreshed by reproduction, and
sowing of new seed, then like anything else, the life sustaining force
of the genetic structure does eventually die out.
True, with orchids, this may take in excess of 150 years to occur,
given optimum culture... But it will happen.


"Bolero" wrote in message

. au...
Yes they can outlive you.


"C.K.T." wrote in message
...
Hello everybody,

Great to find this groep!

I have some Phalenopsis, Dendrobium and Paphiopedilum.

I wonder how old these orchids can become. Someone around who knows

that?

Thanks,

ckt






Larry Dighera 23-06-2003 04:32 PM

age of orchids
 
On 22 Jun 2003 16:37:39 -0700, (Bryan) wrote in
Message-Id: :

If orchids can live "forever" then that would put them in a special
category not shared by ANY OTHER living thing in known existence..
Genetic material does decay... Eventually..
No matter how old the plant, or how many times it has devided or grown
new crowns, the genetic structure is as old as the original seedling.
In other words, if the DNA is not refreshed by reproduction, and
sowing of new seed, then like anything else, the life sustaining force
of the genetic structure does eventually die out.
True, with orchids, this may take in excess of 150 years to occur,
given optimum culture... But it will happen.


Would "the life sustaining force" you mention have anything to do with
telomeres?



Larry Dighera 23-06-2003 04:32 PM

age of orchids
 
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:03:26 +1000, "Bolero"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

Maybe it would take 1000 years? It may be a while before anyone knows
anyway.


How old are those Giant Sequoias in the California parks? IIRC, some
are supposed to predate Christ.



janet_a 23-06-2003 05:20 PM

age of orchids
 
sorry, i'm googling so i'm out of order:

age of trees---aren't the methuselah trees out west approaching
4,000 yrs old? gimme a sec...



Taking Chips Off the Oldest Blocks


By Rick Weiss
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 16, 2003; Page A01


When they finally found it, high in California's rugged White
Mountains, the tree looked a lot like the other stunted and windblown
evergreens scattered about: a twisted mass of sun-bleached wood,
stubborn green needles and gray crusts of bark.

But this particular bristlecone pine was different. Nicknamed
Methuselah, it has clung to its rocky patch of ground near the Nevada
border for the past 4,768 years, making it the oldest known living
tree on the planet.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Jun15.html


ok, so almost 5,000 yrs old. :)


--j_a

Bryan 23-06-2003 11:56 PM

age of orchids
 
What's a "telemores"?

I think that when discussing the age of any species, it is fair to
keep in mind the difference between "forever", and a few hundred, or a
few thousand years.
Sugesting that orchids may be "immortal" is completely inaccurate, and
I just wanted to steer the discussion away from that conclusion.


Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
On 22 Jun 2003 16:37:39 -0700, (Bryan) wrote in
Message-Id: :

If orchids can live "forever" then that would put them in a special
category not shared by ANY OTHER living thing in known existence..
Genetic material does decay... Eventually..
No matter how old the plant, or how many times it has devided or grown
new crowns, the genetic structure is as old as the original seedling.
In other words, if the DNA is not refreshed by reproduction, and
sowing of new seed, then like anything else, the life sustaining force
of the genetic structure does eventually die out.
True, with orchids, this may take in excess of 150 years to occur,
given optimum culture... But it will happen.


Would "the life sustaining force" you mention have anything to do with
telomeres?



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