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Mick Fournier 19-03-2004 04:42 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Troy,

Then **** off you rude jerk and keep your amateur photographs off RGO. I am
sick of seeing jerks like you fly into this newsgroup on a whim dumping
stupid crap all over this forum and then sheepishly blaming it on their
wayward "computer".

Incidentally I refuse to sell to people that shit all over this newsgroup...
so you wouldn't have gotten any flasks anyways you moron.

Mick

===========================



"Troy House" wrote in message
...
Wow, Mick

The upload to RGO was certainly an error, and I do sincerely apologize to
all. (My news reader added the address automatically and I was unaware it
was sent to RGO until I was so informed.)

I was also going to order from your company, OrchidFlask.com, but having

now
experienced your attitude, I can only imagine how you treat your customers
and their questions.

I can't believe that a few orchid photos could cause one so much rage.

--
Troy House




Mick Fournier 19-03-2004 05:00 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Troy,

Then **** off you rude jerk and keep your amateur photographs off RGO. I am
sick of seeing jerks like you fly into this newsgroup on a whim dumping
stupid crap all over this forum and then sheepishly blaming it on their
wayward "computer".

Incidentally I refuse to sell to people that shit all over this newsgroup...
so you wouldn't have gotten any flasks anyways you moron.

Mick

===========================



"Troy House" wrote in message
...
Wow, Mick

The upload to RGO was certainly an error, and I do sincerely apologize to
all. (My news reader added the address automatically and I was unaware it
was sent to RGO until I was so informed.)

I was also going to order from your company, OrchidFlask.com, but having

now
experienced your attitude, I can only imagine how you treat your customers
and their questions.

I can't believe that a few orchid photos could cause one so much rage.

--
Troy House




dd 19-03-2004 06:36 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 

Many people are new to the Internet and newsgroups, and what you take
for granted might very well come as a flood of new information to them.
In this case, the poster made a mistake and apologized for it. Instead
of letting it pass, you had to spew low-brow invective at him. You harp
on the poster's "net etiquette" but evidently your mother failed to
teach you social etiquette.

The poster does have a good point: Your conduct here does reflect on
your business sensibilities. For the record, I wouldn't buy anything
from you either.

In article , Mick
Fournier wrote:

Troy,

Then **** off you rude jerk and keep your amateur photographs off RGO. I am
sick of seeing jerks like you fly into this newsgroup on a whim dumping
stupid crap all over this forum and then sheepishly blaming it on their
wayward "computer".

Incidentally I refuse to sell to people that shit all over this newsgroup...
so you wouldn't have gotten any flasks anyways you moron.

Mick

===========================



"Troy House" wrote in message
...
Wow, Mick

The upload to RGO was certainly an error, and I do sincerely apologize to
all. (My news reader added the address automatically and I was unaware it
was sent to RGO until I was so informed.)

I was also going to order from your company, OrchidFlask.com, but having

now
experienced your attitude, I can only imagine how you treat your customers
and their questions.

I can't believe that a few orchid photos could cause one so much rage.

--
Troy House




Mick Fournier 19-03-2004 08:03 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before... or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick



Dewitt 19-03-2004 08:32 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:01:14 -0500, "Mick Fournier"
wrote:

I would be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.


Main Entry: iro·ny
Pronunciation: 'I-r&-nE also 'I(-&)r-nE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nies
Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirOnia, from eirOn dissembler
1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another
assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by
adroit questioning -- called also Socratic irony
2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially
the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic
literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression
or utterance
3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of
events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result
marked by such incongruity b : incongruity between a situation
developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is
understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play --
called also dramatic irony, tragic irony

deg

Rob Halgren 19-03-2004 09:04 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Mick Fournier wrote:

dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before... or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick


I buy scores of flasks, but I haven't purchased any from you,
largely because of posts such as that quoted above. I respect your
right to do it, and I frequently agree with your comments, but I can't
justify doing business with you. That isn't a boycott, but you
probably could have had several of my nickels had you been just a little
more restrained.

Not a flame, just a thought. I suspect there are several others
out there with big flask budgets who feel the same. And many who don't
care. I sincerely wish you well with the latter group. Life is too
short to get upset about newbies, in my opinion.


Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit

Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 05:32 AM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:22:41 GMT, dd
wrote in Message-Id: :

Many people are new to the Internet and newsgroups,


In the "old days" (early '80s) the news reader client program would
force the user to read the periodic postings in the news.newusers
newsgroup. That initial behavior of the newsreader insured that each
new usenet participant had an opportunity to research accepted
practices before plunging in without a clue.



Mick Fournier 20-03-2004 05:35 AM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Rob,

If I had to depend on selling flasks for an income I might curb my disgust
for inconsiderate people like Troy... but I could give a rat's ass if I ever
sell another flask. This flasking business is only for my pleasure and the
pleasure of few real orchid purists who desire hard to find species.
Actually in fact, I do so much business in Europe, China, Vietnam and Russia
now that if another American (like your good self) never bought from me
again, it wouldn't even faze me. My new clients don't issue such
boycotts/threats to me... in fact, I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections. And for the record, my other "real life"
business dwarfs my online orchid flask sales many, many times over... so you
see where my head is at on this trivial boycotting matter.

Personally, I have nothing but disgust for little **** ant flame-*******
like dd who can't even summon up the guts to tell his (or her) real name and
hides behind two initials criticizing my opinions/admonitions to other
people coming out of lurkdom to crap on this newsgroup. At least Troy had
the balls to use a real name... that's a plus for him.

Plus years ago a good friend orchid grower (who frequents RGO) pointed out
to me that during my flame wars and "strong" word wars to the ignorant
abusing this newsgroup that the RGOer's juices start to really flow hard
manifesting itself in increased hits on his website and increased sales. He
had also been monitoring hits on my website simultaneously to his website...
he pointed out to me that in times like this (ie this thread) even my
website hits had tripled. In going back over my sales records I saw that in
the hottest old flame wars the RGO "juices" were indeed coming alive... my
sales double during such times as they are doing right now.

Rob, when admonitions to these photo uploaders turn into mini-flame wars and
these puppets like Troy and dd become MY bitches to manipulate as I see
fit... sales rise for me. It is a true fact of life (and business) which I
discovered many years ago, so don't waste your breath telling me how you are
going to withhold $300 in sales from me... I made that amount yesterday
morning before lunch.

So if any more of you want to tell me how you are a big flask buyer and you
want to boycott me then fire away... I am your target.

I love the publicity! Fire away!

Mick

PS: Rob, it is time to drop rule #3. Americans have ruined the credit of
this country in the face of the international businesses community by taking
such a cavalier, short-sighted, moronic approach to simply getting more
credit to buy stupid shit... like orchids they can't afford. America is
going to pay dearly after November 2004 for this form of
living-beyond-our-means and tossing our heavy debts on the backs of other
countries through the wicked machinations of the IMF. America is going to
pay dearly in 2005 for our uncontrolled spending... you should do your part
now and encourage the impressionable not to be so stupid with their personal
finances by dropping your rule #3. Plus, you have beat that worn out song
to death. Retire it and do your part to help the world... esp, the third
world.


================================


"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
...
Mick Fournier wrote:

dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from

little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before... or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued

such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick


I buy scores of flasks, but I haven't purchased any from you,
largely because of posts such as that quoted above. I respect your
right to do it, and I frequently agree with your comments, but I can't
justify doing business with you. That isn't a boycott, but you
probably could have had several of my nickels had you been just a little
more restrained.

Not a flame, just a thought. I suspect there are several others
out there with big flask budgets who feel the same. And many who don't
care. I sincerely wish you well with the latter group. Life is too
short to get upset about newbies, in my opinion.


Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit




Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 05:41 AM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:22:41 GMT, dd
wrote in Message-Id: :

Many people are new to the Internet and newsgroups,


In the "old days" (early '80s) the news reader client program would
force the user to read the periodic postings in the news.newusers
newsgroup. That initial behavior of the newsreader insured that each
new usenet participant had an opportunity to research accepted
practices before plunging in without a clue.



Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 05:41 AM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:22:41 GMT, dd
wrote in Message-Id: :

Many people are new to the Internet and newsgroups,


In the "old days" (early '80s) the news reader client program would
force the user to read the periodic postings in the news.newusers
newsgroup. That initial behavior of the newsreader insured that each
new usenet participant had an opportunity to research accepted
practices before plunging in without a clue.



Mick Fournier 20-03-2004 05:47 AM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Rob,

If I had to depend on selling flasks for an income I might curb my disgust
for inconsiderate people like Troy... but I could give a rat's ass if I ever
sell another flask. This flasking business is only for my pleasure and the
pleasure of few real orchid purists who desire hard to find species.
Actually in fact, I do so much business in Europe, China, Vietnam and Russia
now that if another American (like your good self) never bought from me
again, it wouldn't even faze me. My new clients don't issue such
boycotts/threats to me... in fact, I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections. And for the record, my other "real life"
business dwarfs my online orchid flask sales many, many times over... so you
see where my head is at on this trivial boycotting matter.

Personally, I have nothing but disgust for little **** ant flame-*******
like dd who can't even summon up the guts to tell his (or her) real name and
hides behind two initials criticizing my opinions/admonitions to other
people coming out of lurkdom to crap on this newsgroup. At least Troy had
the balls to use a real name... that's a plus for him.

Plus years ago a good friend orchid grower (who frequents RGO) pointed out
to me that during my flame wars and "strong" word wars to the ignorant
abusing this newsgroup that the RGOer's juices start to really flow hard
manifesting itself in increased hits on his website and increased sales. He
had also been monitoring hits on my website simultaneously to his website...
he pointed out to me that in times like this (ie this thread) even my
website hits had tripled. In going back over my sales records I saw that in
the hottest old flame wars the RGO "juices" were indeed coming alive... my
sales double during such times as they are doing right now.

Rob, when admonitions to these photo uploaders turn into mini-flame wars and
these puppets like Troy and dd become MY bitches to manipulate as I see
fit... sales rise for me. It is a true fact of life (and business) which I
discovered many years ago, so don't waste your breath telling me how you are
going to withhold $300 in sales from me... I made that amount yesterday
morning before lunch.

So if any more of you want to tell me how you are a big flask buyer and you
want to boycott me then fire away... I am your target.

I love the publicity! Fire away!

Mick

PS: Rob, it is time to drop rule #3. Americans have ruined the credit of
this country in the face of the international businesses community by taking
such a cavalier, short-sighted, moronic approach to simply getting more
credit to buy stupid shit... like orchids they can't afford. America is
going to pay dearly after November 2004 for this form of
living-beyond-our-means and tossing our heavy debts on the backs of other
countries through the wicked machinations of the IMF. America is going to
pay dearly in 2005 for our uncontrolled spending... you should do your part
now and encourage the impressionable not to be so stupid with their personal
finances by dropping your rule #3. Plus, you have beat that worn out song
to death. Retire it and do your part to help the world... esp, the third
world.


================================


"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
...
Mick Fournier wrote:

dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from

little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before... or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued

such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick


I buy scores of flasks, but I haven't purchased any from you,
largely because of posts such as that quoted above. I respect your
right to do it, and I frequently agree with your comments, but I can't
justify doing business with you. That isn't a boycott, but you
probably could have had several of my nickels had you been just a little
more restrained.

Not a flame, just a thought. I suspect there are several others
out there with big flask budgets who feel the same. And many who don't
care. I sincerely wish you well with the latter group. Life is too
short to get upset about newbies, in my opinion.


Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit




Mick Fournier 20-03-2004 05:47 AM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Rob,

If I had to depend on selling flasks for an income I might curb my disgust
for inconsiderate people like Troy... but I could give a rat's ass if I ever
sell another flask. This flasking business is only for my pleasure and the
pleasure of few real orchid purists who desire hard to find species.
Actually in fact, I do so much business in Europe, China, Vietnam and Russia
now that if another American (like your good self) never bought from me
again, it wouldn't even faze me. My new clients don't issue such
boycotts/threats to me... in fact, I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections. And for the record, my other "real life"
business dwarfs my online orchid flask sales many, many times over... so you
see where my head is at on this trivial boycotting matter.

Personally, I have nothing but disgust for little **** ant flame-*******
like dd who can't even summon up the guts to tell his (or her) real name and
hides behind two initials criticizing my opinions/admonitions to other
people coming out of lurkdom to crap on this newsgroup. At least Troy had
the balls to use a real name... that's a plus for him.

Plus years ago a good friend orchid grower (who frequents RGO) pointed out
to me that during my flame wars and "strong" word wars to the ignorant
abusing this newsgroup that the RGOer's juices start to really flow hard
manifesting itself in increased hits on his website and increased sales. He
had also been monitoring hits on my website simultaneously to his website...
he pointed out to me that in times like this (ie this thread) even my
website hits had tripled. In going back over my sales records I saw that in
the hottest old flame wars the RGO "juices" were indeed coming alive... my
sales double during such times as they are doing right now.

Rob, when admonitions to these photo uploaders turn into mini-flame wars and
these puppets like Troy and dd become MY bitches to manipulate as I see
fit... sales rise for me. It is a true fact of life (and business) which I
discovered many years ago, so don't waste your breath telling me how you are
going to withhold $300 in sales from me... I made that amount yesterday
morning before lunch.

So if any more of you want to tell me how you are a big flask buyer and you
want to boycott me then fire away... I am your target.

I love the publicity! Fire away!

Mick

PS: Rob, it is time to drop rule #3. Americans have ruined the credit of
this country in the face of the international businesses community by taking
such a cavalier, short-sighted, moronic approach to simply getting more
credit to buy stupid shit... like orchids they can't afford. America is
going to pay dearly after November 2004 for this form of
living-beyond-our-means and tossing our heavy debts on the backs of other
countries through the wicked machinations of the IMF. America is going to
pay dearly in 2005 for our uncontrolled spending... you should do your part
now and encourage the impressionable not to be so stupid with their personal
finances by dropping your rule #3. Plus, you have beat that worn out song
to death. Retire it and do your part to help the world... esp, the third
world.


================================


"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
...
Mick Fournier wrote:

dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from

little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before... or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued

such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick


I buy scores of flasks, but I haven't purchased any from you,
largely because of posts such as that quoted above. I respect your
right to do it, and I frequently agree with your comments, but I can't
justify doing business with you. That isn't a boycott, but you
probably could have had several of my nickels had you been just a little
more restrained.

Not a flame, just a thought. I suspect there are several others
out there with big flask budgets who feel the same. And many who don't
care. I sincerely wish you well with the latter group. Life is too
short to get upset about newbies, in my opinion.


Rob

--
Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit




Ray 20-03-2004 01:55 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Recently, Mick spouteth thusly:

"...I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections"

Applaud the stopping of uploading, possibly.

Applaud the approach? I'd be willing to bet we have a different opinion of
"many."

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
. ..
Rob,

If I had to depend on selling flasks for an income I might curb my disgust
for inconsiderate people like Troy... but I could give a rat's ass if I

ever
sell another flask. This flasking business is only for my pleasure and

the
pleasure of few real orchid purists who desire hard to find species.
Actually in fact, I do so much business in Europe, China, Vietnam and

Russia
now that if another American (like your good self) never bought from me
again, it wouldn't even faze me. My new clients don't issue such
boycotts/threats to me... in fact, I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections. And for the record, my other "real

life"
business dwarfs my online orchid flask sales many, many times over... so

you
see where my head is at on this trivial boycotting matter.

Personally, I have nothing but disgust for little **** ant flame-*******
like dd who can't even summon up the guts to tell his (or her) real name

and
hides behind two initials criticizing my opinions/admonitions to other
people coming out of lurkdom to crap on this newsgroup. At least Troy had
the balls to use a real name... that's a plus for him.

Plus years ago a good friend orchid grower (who frequents RGO) pointed out
to me that during my flame wars and "strong" word wars to the ignorant
abusing this newsgroup that the RGOer's juices start to really flow hard
manifesting itself in increased hits on his website and increased sales.

He
had also been monitoring hits on my website simultaneously to his

website...
he pointed out to me that in times like this (ie this thread) even my
website hits had tripled. In going back over my sales records I saw that

in
the hottest old flame wars the RGO "juices" were indeed coming alive... my
sales double during such times as they are doing right now.

Rob, when admonitions to these photo uploaders turn into mini-flame wars

and
these puppets like Troy and dd become MY bitches to manipulate as I see
fit... sales rise for me. It is a true fact of life (and business) which

I
discovered many years ago, so don't waste your breath telling me how you

are
going to withhold $300 in sales from me... I made that amount yesterday
morning before lunch.

So if any more of you want to tell me how you are a big flask buyer and

you
want to boycott me then fire away... I am your target.

I love the publicity! Fire away!

Mick

PS: Rob, it is time to drop rule #3. Americans have ruined the credit of
this country in the face of the international businesses community by

taking
such a cavalier, short-sighted, moronic approach to simply getting more
credit to buy stupid shit... like orchids they can't afford. America is
going to pay dearly after November 2004 for this form of
living-beyond-our-means and tossing our heavy debts on the backs of other
countries through the wicked machinations of the IMF. America is going to
pay dearly in 2005 for our uncontrolled spending... you should do your

part
now and encourage the impressionable not to be so stupid with their

personal
finances by dropping your rule #3. Plus, you have beat that worn out song
to death. Retire it and do your part to help the world... esp, the third
world.


================================


"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
...
Mick Fournier wrote:

dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from

little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before...

or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would

be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued

such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick


I buy scores of flasks, but I haven't purchased any from you,
largely because of posts such as that quoted above. I respect your
right to do it, and I frequently agree with your comments, but I can't
justify doing business with you. That isn't a boycott, but you
probably could have had several of my nickels had you been just a little
more restrained.

Not a flame, just a thought. I suspect there are several others
out there with big flask budgets who feel the same. And many who don't
care. I sincerely wish you well with the latter group. Life is too
short to get upset about newbies, in my opinion.


Rob

--
Rob's Rules:
http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit






Ray 20-03-2004 02:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Recently, Mick spouteth thusly:

"...I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections"

Applaud the stopping of uploading, possibly.

Applaud the approach? I'd be willing to bet we have a different opinion of
"many."

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
. ..
Rob,

If I had to depend on selling flasks for an income I might curb my disgust
for inconsiderate people like Troy... but I could give a rat's ass if I

ever
sell another flask. This flasking business is only for my pleasure and

the
pleasure of few real orchid purists who desire hard to find species.
Actually in fact, I do so much business in Europe, China, Vietnam and

Russia
now that if another American (like your good self) never bought from me
again, it wouldn't even faze me. My new clients don't issue such
boycotts/threats to me... in fact, I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections. And for the record, my other "real

life"
business dwarfs my online orchid flask sales many, many times over... so

you
see where my head is at on this trivial boycotting matter.

Personally, I have nothing but disgust for little **** ant flame-*******
like dd who can't even summon up the guts to tell his (or her) real name

and
hides behind two initials criticizing my opinions/admonitions to other
people coming out of lurkdom to crap on this newsgroup. At least Troy had
the balls to use a real name... that's a plus for him.

Plus years ago a good friend orchid grower (who frequents RGO) pointed out
to me that during my flame wars and "strong" word wars to the ignorant
abusing this newsgroup that the RGOer's juices start to really flow hard
manifesting itself in increased hits on his website and increased sales.

He
had also been monitoring hits on my website simultaneously to his

website...
he pointed out to me that in times like this (ie this thread) even my
website hits had tripled. In going back over my sales records I saw that

in
the hottest old flame wars the RGO "juices" were indeed coming alive... my
sales double during such times as they are doing right now.

Rob, when admonitions to these photo uploaders turn into mini-flame wars

and
these puppets like Troy and dd become MY bitches to manipulate as I see
fit... sales rise for me. It is a true fact of life (and business) which

I
discovered many years ago, so don't waste your breath telling me how you

are
going to withhold $300 in sales from me... I made that amount yesterday
morning before lunch.

So if any more of you want to tell me how you are a big flask buyer and

you
want to boycott me then fire away... I am your target.

I love the publicity! Fire away!

Mick

PS: Rob, it is time to drop rule #3. Americans have ruined the credit of
this country in the face of the international businesses community by

taking
such a cavalier, short-sighted, moronic approach to simply getting more
credit to buy stupid shit... like orchids they can't afford. America is
going to pay dearly after November 2004 for this form of
living-beyond-our-means and tossing our heavy debts on the backs of other
countries through the wicked machinations of the IMF. America is going to
pay dearly in 2005 for our uncontrolled spending... you should do your

part
now and encourage the impressionable not to be so stupid with their

personal
finances by dropping your rule #3. Plus, you have beat that worn out song
to death. Retire it and do your part to help the world... esp, the third
world.


================================


"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
...
Mick Fournier wrote:

dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from

little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before...

or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would

be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued

such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick


I buy scores of flasks, but I haven't purchased any from you,
largely because of posts such as that quoted above. I respect your
right to do it, and I frequently agree with your comments, but I can't
justify doing business with you. That isn't a boycott, but you
probably could have had several of my nickels had you been just a little
more restrained.

Not a flame, just a thought. I suspect there are several others
out there with big flask budgets who feel the same. And many who don't
care. I sincerely wish you well with the latter group. Life is too
short to get upset about newbies, in my opinion.


Rob

--
Rob's Rules:
http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit






Ray 20-03-2004 02:27 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Recently, Mick spouteth thusly:

"...I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections"

Applaud the stopping of uploading, possibly.

Applaud the approach? I'd be willing to bet we have a different opinion of
"many."

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Mick Fournier" wrote in message
. ..
Rob,

If I had to depend on selling flasks for an income I might curb my disgust
for inconsiderate people like Troy... but I could give a rat's ass if I

ever
sell another flask. This flasking business is only for my pleasure and

the
pleasure of few real orchid purists who desire hard to find species.
Actually in fact, I do so much business in Europe, China, Vietnam and

Russia
now that if another American (like your good self) never bought from me
again, it wouldn't even faze me. My new clients don't issue such
boycotts/threats to me... in fact, I would guess many of them applaud my
approach to stopping these photo uploaders clogging up our RGO and their
slow moving internet connections. And for the record, my other "real

life"
business dwarfs my online orchid flask sales many, many times over... so

you
see where my head is at on this trivial boycotting matter.

Personally, I have nothing but disgust for little **** ant flame-*******
like dd who can't even summon up the guts to tell his (or her) real name

and
hides behind two initials criticizing my opinions/admonitions to other
people coming out of lurkdom to crap on this newsgroup. At least Troy had
the balls to use a real name... that's a plus for him.

Plus years ago a good friend orchid grower (who frequents RGO) pointed out
to me that during my flame wars and "strong" word wars to the ignorant
abusing this newsgroup that the RGOer's juices start to really flow hard
manifesting itself in increased hits on his website and increased sales.

He
had also been monitoring hits on my website simultaneously to his

website...
he pointed out to me that in times like this (ie this thread) even my
website hits had tripled. In going back over my sales records I saw that

in
the hottest old flame wars the RGO "juices" were indeed coming alive... my
sales double during such times as they are doing right now.

Rob, when admonitions to these photo uploaders turn into mini-flame wars

and
these puppets like Troy and dd become MY bitches to manipulate as I see
fit... sales rise for me. It is a true fact of life (and business) which

I
discovered many years ago, so don't waste your breath telling me how you

are
going to withhold $300 in sales from me... I made that amount yesterday
morning before lunch.

So if any more of you want to tell me how you are a big flask buyer and

you
want to boycott me then fire away... I am your target.

I love the publicity! Fire away!

Mick

PS: Rob, it is time to drop rule #3. Americans have ruined the credit of
this country in the face of the international businesses community by

taking
such a cavalier, short-sighted, moronic approach to simply getting more
credit to buy stupid shit... like orchids they can't afford. America is
going to pay dearly after November 2004 for this form of
living-beyond-our-means and tossing our heavy debts on the backs of other
countries through the wicked machinations of the IMF. America is going to
pay dearly in 2005 for our uncontrolled spending... you should do your

part
now and encourage the impressionable not to be so stupid with their

personal
finances by dropping your rule #3. Plus, you have beat that worn out song
to death. Retire it and do your part to help the world... esp, the third
world.


================================


"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
...
Mick Fournier wrote:

dd,

Good. I always get that kind of chicken shit boycotting threat from

little
rock-throwing people like you that never have bought from me before...

or
most likely have never bought a flask in their life anyways. I would

be
rich if I had a nickel for every cheap skate like you that has issued

such a
threat/admonition on RGO over the last 6 or 7 years.

Besides, I have a three flask minimum order. You could not afford it.

Meanwhile... keep your pictures off RGO also.

Mick


I buy scores of flasks, but I haven't purchased any from you,
largely because of posts such as that quoted above. I respect your
right to do it, and I frequently agree with your comments, but I can't
justify doing business with you. That isn't a boycott, but you
probably could have had several of my nickels had you been just a little
more restrained.

Not a flame, just a thought. I suspect there are several others
out there with big flask budgets who feel the same. And many who don't
care. I sincerely wish you well with the latter group. Life is too
short to get upset about newbies, in my opinion.


Rob

--
Rob's Rules:
http://www.msu.edu/~halgren
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a. See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase
more orchids, obtain more credit






Mick Fournier 20-03-2004 02:56 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Ray,

I don't mind doing the dirty work around here to keep this little forum nice
and tidy and free from photographs (especially third rate ones from newbies
who have no idea what is truly picturesque orchids)... I have nothing to
lose. And you can certainly "enjoy" the results even though you don't like
my approach.

Mick



Al 20-03-2004 06:05 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Welcome to our little corner of Usenet. :-) Apology accepted. It *is* a
wonderful day for a picnic, isn't it!?

I must confess that I didn't see your picture, Troy, and I didn't see Mick's
initial response to it although I can well imagine what it must have looked
like. I am using adelphia Usenet servers to view this newsgroup and they in
turn draw their newsfeeds from giganews. I think giganews blocks picture
files in non-binary hierarchies but I don't understand where Mick's initial
response to it went. So, the first I have seen of this little spat is this
apology. I suspect there are a large number of people who never even saw
your picture or Mick's initial response to it. But I may be wrong. I often
am. Did any adelphia users see this picture?

I also noticed this apology on abpo, but again no picture or Mick's
response. You didn't need to apologize to *abpo* for posting a picture.
That is where you can post them without fear of offending our delicate
sensibilities.

FWIW, I kind of liken this type of crime to putting your elbows on the table
during our picnic. Pure Evil. A picnic with visible elbows! However, I am
puzzled that the punishment for this infraction seems to be the forced
removal of your arms above the elbow with a chain saw. That is just so
"Alice and the Red Queen," because I *do* think that chain saws are as
inappropriate at meals as elbows. All this bar and chain oil flying
everywhere. It's really quite messy, don't you think? But, I'm hardly Miss
Manners and what do I know? Yet, if I *had* known there would be chain saws
I would not have brought my good table linens to the festivities.

From where I am eating it looks to me that Mick, far from disliking
pictures, actually lies in wait for them. He calls it dirty work, I think,
but if it makes him money, ah well.... I guess a chain saw at the table is
here to stay. I can imagine a worst case scenario where doppelgangers (my
favorite word) newbies post pictures and run but I am sure that's not
happening here. Mick always demonstrates far too much honor for me to
suspect him of being party to such a thing.

If I have any say in this at all, and I am sure I don't, so I won't go on
too much longer, I would ask Mick to be a bit nicer the first time a new
poster does something as horrible as what you have just apologized for
doing. But short of asking I do not see what else I can do so I hesitate to
get involved.

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way. Thank
you.

"Troy House" wrote in message
...
Wow, Mick

The upload to RGO was certainly an error, and I do sincerely apologize to
all. (My news reader added the address automatically and I was unaware it
was sent to RGO until I was so informed.)

I was also going to order from your company, OrchidFlask.com, but having

now
experienced your attitude, I can only imagine how you treat your customers
and their questions.

I can't believe that a few orchid photos could cause one so much rage.

--
Troy House




Al 20-03-2004 06:33 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Welcome to our little corner of Usenet. :-) Apology accepted. It *is* a
wonderful day for a picnic, isn't it!?

I must confess that I didn't see your picture, Troy, and I didn't see Mick's
initial response to it although I can well imagine what it must have looked
like. I am using adelphia Usenet servers to view this newsgroup and they in
turn draw their newsfeeds from giganews. I think giganews blocks picture
files in non-binary hierarchies but I don't understand where Mick's initial
response to it went. So, the first I have seen of this little spat is this
apology. I suspect there are a large number of people who never even saw
your picture or Mick's initial response to it. But I may be wrong. I often
am. Did any adelphia users see this picture?

I also noticed this apology on abpo, but again no picture or Mick's
response. You didn't need to apologize to *abpo* for posting a picture.
That is where you can post them without fear of offending our delicate
sensibilities.

FWIW, I kind of liken this type of crime to putting your elbows on the table
during our picnic. Pure Evil. A picnic with visible elbows! However, I am
puzzled that the punishment for this infraction seems to be the forced
removal of your arms above the elbow with a chain saw. That is just so
"Alice and the Red Queen," because I *do* think that chain saws are as
inappropriate at meals as elbows. All this bar and chain oil flying
everywhere. It's really quite messy, don't you think? But, I'm hardly Miss
Manners and what do I know? Yet, if I *had* known there would be chain saws
I would not have brought my good table linens to the festivities.

From where I am eating it looks to me that Mick, far from disliking
pictures, actually lies in wait for them. He calls it dirty work, I think,
but if it makes him money, ah well.... I guess a chain saw at the table is
here to stay. I can imagine a worst case scenario where doppelgangers (my
favorite word) newbies post pictures and run but I am sure that's not
happening here. Mick always demonstrates far too much honor for me to
suspect him of being party to such a thing.

If I have any say in this at all, and I am sure I don't, so I won't go on
too much longer, I would ask Mick to be a bit nicer the first time a new
poster does something as horrible as what you have just apologized for
doing. But short of asking I do not see what else I can do so I hesitate to
get involved.

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way. Thank
you.

"Troy House" wrote in message
...
Wow, Mick

The upload to RGO was certainly an error, and I do sincerely apologize to
all. (My news reader added the address automatically and I was unaware it
was sent to RGO until I was so informed.)

I was also going to order from your company, OrchidFlask.com, but having

now
experienced your attitude, I can only imagine how you treat your customers
and their questions.

I can't believe that a few orchid photos could cause one so much rage.

--
Troy House




Al 20-03-2004 06:33 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Welcome to our little corner of Usenet. :-) Apology accepted. It *is* a
wonderful day for a picnic, isn't it!?

I must confess that I didn't see your picture, Troy, and I didn't see Mick's
initial response to it although I can well imagine what it must have looked
like. I am using adelphia Usenet servers to view this newsgroup and they in
turn draw their newsfeeds from giganews. I think giganews blocks picture
files in non-binary hierarchies but I don't understand where Mick's initial
response to it went. So, the first I have seen of this little spat is this
apology. I suspect there are a large number of people who never even saw
your picture or Mick's initial response to it. But I may be wrong. I often
am. Did any adelphia users see this picture?

I also noticed this apology on abpo, but again no picture or Mick's
response. You didn't need to apologize to *abpo* for posting a picture.
That is where you can post them without fear of offending our delicate
sensibilities.

FWIW, I kind of liken this type of crime to putting your elbows on the table
during our picnic. Pure Evil. A picnic with visible elbows! However, I am
puzzled that the punishment for this infraction seems to be the forced
removal of your arms above the elbow with a chain saw. That is just so
"Alice and the Red Queen," because I *do* think that chain saws are as
inappropriate at meals as elbows. All this bar and chain oil flying
everywhere. It's really quite messy, don't you think? But, I'm hardly Miss
Manners and what do I know? Yet, if I *had* known there would be chain saws
I would not have brought my good table linens to the festivities.

From where I am eating it looks to me that Mick, far from disliking
pictures, actually lies in wait for them. He calls it dirty work, I think,
but if it makes him money, ah well.... I guess a chain saw at the table is
here to stay. I can imagine a worst case scenario where doppelgangers (my
favorite word) newbies post pictures and run but I am sure that's not
happening here. Mick always demonstrates far too much honor for me to
suspect him of being party to such a thing.

If I have any say in this at all, and I am sure I don't, so I won't go on
too much longer, I would ask Mick to be a bit nicer the first time a new
poster does something as horrible as what you have just apologized for
doing. But short of asking I do not see what else I can do so I hesitate to
get involved.

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way. Thank
you.

"Troy House" wrote in message
...
Wow, Mick

The upload to RGO was certainly an error, and I do sincerely apologize to
all. (My news reader added the address automatically and I was unaware it
was sent to RGO until I was so informed.)

I was also going to order from your company, OrchidFlask.com, but having

now
experienced your attitude, I can only imagine how you treat your customers
and their questions.

I can't believe that a few orchid photos could cause one so much rage.

--
Troy House




J Fortuna 20-03-2004 07:02 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
I am playing Devil's advocate he

I find myself in the uncomfortable situation of defending bad manners and
rudeness, but the thing is that on 02/10/2004 I posted a polite response to
the first picture that Troy posted to both ABPO and RGO.
My response is archived in Google, Troy's picture is not because Google does
not archive picture posts.
URL:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm....gnilin k.net
So you see this is not a first time offense. Troy either did not read my
response, but I think it is more likely that Troy ignored my friendly
reprimand -- I replied to both abpo and rgo, so even if Troy did not
knowingly cross-post he should have seen the reply (unless like Al's server,
Troy's server swallows posts selectively). I must admit that I am also a bit
suspicious of Troy's claim that he did not know that his newsreader added
rec.gardens.orchids without his knowledge. I can't at this point say that
this is not possible, but I have my doubts. What newsreader would that be?
How does that happen?

If noone says anything when someone does something wrong, or if we only
reply with polite reminders of the netiquette, in the end I suspect more
people would ignore them. While I do not generally think that being rude is
a good solution, and thus am somewhat uncomfortable with the stance I am
taking here, still I think that sometimes even a polite group such as ours
needs to be shaken up. While I would hate to be at the receiving end of one
of Mick's rants myself (and there are times when I have deserved them if not
here then at abpo, where I have at times posted pictures of bad quality and
forgetting to size them down, and I have at least on one occasion posted a
message without thinking that caused someone grief or offense), however, the
truth is that it is very difficult to ignore Mick's rants, and thus while
unpleasant, his way may actually be effective in ensuring that people pay
attention.

Maybe we can find a middle way, something in between polite reminders and
chainsaws cutting off hands at picnic tables. However, as always each of us
is responsible for what we post, and the impression that we make to the
world. This is a free unmoderated forum. One of the downsides of it is that
we need to moderate it ourselves. Some of us are better at being polite than
others, but politeness is not always the highest virtue, and while I agree
that some of the things Mick spouted were too extreme, I suspect Troy and
the many readers throughout the world will get over the shock of reading his
posts, and if one does not want to be offended in the future, there is
always the option of not reading any posts written by Mick Fournier (and I
suspect he won't care if you decide to boycott him through selective reading
as well).

Joanna



J Fortuna 20-03-2004 07:23 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
I am playing Devil's advocate he

I find myself in the uncomfortable situation of defending bad manners and
rudeness, but the thing is that on 02/10/2004 I posted a polite response to
the first picture that Troy posted to both ABPO and RGO.
My response is archived in Google, Troy's picture is not because Google does
not archive picture posts.
URL:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm....gnilin k.net
So you see this is not a first time offense. Troy either did not read my
response, but I think it is more likely that Troy ignored my friendly
reprimand -- I replied to both abpo and rgo, so even if Troy did not
knowingly cross-post he should have seen the reply (unless like Al's server,
Troy's server swallows posts selectively). I must admit that I am also a bit
suspicious of Troy's claim that he did not know that his newsreader added
rec.gardens.orchids without his knowledge. I can't at this point say that
this is not possible, but I have my doubts. What newsreader would that be?
How does that happen?

If noone says anything when someone does something wrong, or if we only
reply with polite reminders of the netiquette, in the end I suspect more
people would ignore them. While I do not generally think that being rude is
a good solution, and thus am somewhat uncomfortable with the stance I am
taking here, still I think that sometimes even a polite group such as ours
needs to be shaken up. While I would hate to be at the receiving end of one
of Mick's rants myself (and there are times when I have deserved them if not
here then at abpo, where I have at times posted pictures of bad quality and
forgetting to size them down, and I have at least on one occasion posted a
message without thinking that caused someone grief or offense), however, the
truth is that it is very difficult to ignore Mick's rants, and thus while
unpleasant, his way may actually be effective in ensuring that people pay
attention.

Maybe we can find a middle way, something in between polite reminders and
chainsaws cutting off hands at picnic tables. However, as always each of us
is responsible for what we post, and the impression that we make to the
world. This is a free unmoderated forum. One of the downsides of it is that
we need to moderate it ourselves. Some of us are better at being polite than
others, but politeness is not always the highest virtue, and while I agree
that some of the things Mick spouted were too extreme, I suspect Troy and
the many readers throughout the world will get over the shock of reading his
posts, and if one does not want to be offended in the future, there is
always the option of not reading any posts written by Mick Fournier (and I
suspect he won't care if you decide to boycott him through selective reading
as well).

Joanna



molli 20-03-2004 09:50 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Were you wanting us to pass the fruit salad, or the blood and bar/chain oil
Al?

--
--
Hugs,
Molli

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way. Thank
you.




Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 10:01 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:47:18 GMT, "J Fortuna"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

I have at times posted pictures of bad quality


That offence it truly unforgivable and despicable. :-)

and forgetting to size them down,


There is no mandate in the alt.binaries.pictures.orchids charter
concerning photograph size.



molli 20-03-2004 11:14 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Were you wanting us to pass the fruit salad, or the blood and bar/chain oil
Al?

--
--
Hugs,
Molli

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way. Thank
you.




molli 20-03-2004 11:14 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Were you wanting us to pass the fruit salad, or the blood and bar/chain oil
Al?

--
--
Hugs,
Molli

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way. Thank
you.




Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:47:18 GMT, "J Fortuna"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

I have at times posted pictures of bad quality


That offence it truly unforgivable and despicable. :-)

and forgetting to size them down,


There is no mandate in the alt.binaries.pictures.orchids charter
concerning photograph size.



Mick Fournier 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Al,

Ah... the old gang is coming back in force having a reunion weighing in on
this ever intensifying inconsequential bullshit thread. In time "they" will
all be back in the sweet loving arms of controversy and proper table
manners.

Yes, I do love to chew the heads off photo uploaders (esp the ones with
kindergarten orchid photos)... they are such primitive barbarians. And, I
do love to run the chainsaw over those pansy bleeding hearts (usually wimpy
tree-hugging Americans) that come to these barbarians' rescue... it warms my
heart so, and it certainly does pump up the cash register on orchid flask
sales for me also. Can you feel the RGO "juice" intensifying in Virginia
also? Is it possible your hitcounter awoke you from a slumber setting off a
bell prompting you to see what is going on at RGO? Hmmm, now I wonder.

Bella Lagosi (Dracula) once said there is no such thing as "bad"
publicity... it is all good publicity.

Al, I need more bleeding hearts to take a pot shot at my company... as
opposed to me directly as it should have been in the first place with Troy
if he were really a true confrontational man. You all know how much I hate
to broadcast (self-promote) my URL on RGO... so I need more flamers to list
it and tell other RGOers (especially newbies) where they can buy rare
species in flasks. What can I do to get more wimpy crybaby bleeding hearts
to say they are boycotting my website?... and name my site for me
specifically in their posts?

Mick



Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:47:18 GMT, "J Fortuna"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

I have at times posted pictures of bad quality


That offence it truly unforgivable and despicable. :-)

and forgetting to size them down,


There is no mandate in the alt.binaries.pictures.orchids charter
concerning photograph size.



Steve 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 


Al wrote:

........ Did any adelphia users see this picture?....



I never get pictures on RGO. Even before Adelphia linked up with
Giganews, pictures didn't appear on RGO but there was a time in the
past when they often did.
I did get the original pictures on ABPO. For unknown reasons, this
entire thread is now missing from ABPO if read from Adelphia's #1
server. It remains on their #3 server. Mick's original bomb was only
dropped on RGO and I do still see it here on RGO via Adelphia#1.
Perhaps Mick's original reply burned out some connections here and
there. ;-)

Steve


J Fortuna 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
Larry,
Yes, I know. :-)

And I must admit that as far as the quality offense is concerned I have
ignored it on purpose, knowing full well that my photos were low quality,
but if I waited until I had high quality photos I could not post orchid
photos at all, since I am almost a hopelessly bad photographer who only on
rare occasions gets a good photo by accident. However, I wanted to share my
excitement and since I knew that my hand won't get chopped off for posting a
bad quality photo on abpo, I did it anyway. Now if I had posted the same
photos on rgo, I would have gotten my hand chopped of by Mick, and I would
have gotten over it, but I probably would have posted bad quality photos
here again.

As for photo size not being a mandate in the abpo charter, maybe it should
be.

I actually think that a much more serious offense is whenever we reply to
pictures on abpo with meaningful and worthwhile textual content that could
be of benefit to others. And I don't know whether that is an offense against
the charter, but if it is not it really should be. Since abpo is not
archived and many people have access only to rgo, these messages that really
should be in rgo have a limited audience if they are not forwarded to rgo. I
wish we were as good or better about policing the
no-informative-text-only-posts-in-abpo rule as we are about policing the
no-pictures-in-rgo rule. But to my knowledge noone has been flamed yet for
posting really worthwhile text content to abpo, or have they?

Joanna

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:47:18 GMT, "J Fortuna"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

I have at times posted pictures of bad quality


That offence it truly unforgivable and despicable. :-)

and forgetting to size them down,


There is no mandate in the alt.binaries.pictures.orchids charter
concerning photograph size.





Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:55:51 -0500, "Al" wrote in
Message-Id: :

it looks to me that Mick, far from disliking
pictures, actually lies in wait for them. He calls it dirty work, I think,
but if it makes him money, ah well.... I guess a chain saw at the table is
here to stay.



Thanks for the laugh, Al. Here are a few mo

http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame67.html
It was a peaceful and productive forum; lively, congenial and a
bounteous source of useful information. Then one day, completely
without warning, Godzilla arose from the depths and blew his
scalding breath on everything in his path. A phalanx of Warriors
mobilized to attack the monster, only to be crushed like so many
toy tanks under Godzilla's mighty feet. Godzilla soon reduced the
forum to searing and consuming flames. Just as abruptly, he
rumbled back beneath the waves, leaving all to tremble in fear of
his return. Net life would never be the same. Sadly, many netizens
who survive a Godzilla attack will become Xenophobes


http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame48.html
Xenophobe is usually a long-term discussion forum participant and
he thinks of the forum as his private compound. Xenophobe regards
newbies to his forum as mentally deficient and perhaps even having
criminal tendencies, and they are invariably approached with
suspicion and condescension. If a Newbie has the temerity to make
critical observations about the forum's social dynamics, or
questions prevailing opinion, Xenophobe will attempt to silence or
drive out the newcomer.


http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame32.html
As a forum participant Jekyll and Hyde always plays by the rules
and is consistently cordial and helpful - a model netizen, until
one day he comes completely uncorked and lashes out without
warning.His unanticipated thunderbolts can temporarily rout even
the sturdiest Warriors, and it often takes some time for his
stunned opponents to mount a counter attack. Jekyll and Hyde's
sudden behavioral change may result from a psychotic episode, PMS,
a downturn in the market, a surprise visit by the in-laws - or a
session of hard drinking...







Mick Fournier 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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Al,

Ah... the old gang is coming back in force having a reunion weighing in on
this ever intensifying inconsequential bullshit thread. In time "they" will
all be back in the sweet loving arms of controversy and proper table
manners.

Yes, I do love to chew the heads off photo uploaders (esp the ones with
kindergarten orchid photos)... they are such primitive barbarians. And, I
do love to run the chainsaw over those pansy bleeding hearts (usually wimpy
tree-hugging Americans) that come to these barbarians' rescue... it warms my
heart so, and it certainly does pump up the cash register on orchid flask
sales for me also. Can you feel the RGO "juice" intensifying in Virginia
also? Is it possible your hitcounter awoke you from a slumber setting off a
bell prompting you to see what is going on at RGO? Hmmm, now I wonder.

Bella Lagosi (Dracula) once said there is no such thing as "bad"
publicity... it is all good publicity.

Al, I need more bleeding hearts to take a pot shot at my company... as
opposed to me directly as it should have been in the first place with Troy
if he were really a true confrontational man. You all know how much I hate
to broadcast (self-promote) my URL on RGO... so I need more flamers to list
it and tell other RGOers (especially newbies) where they can buy rare
species in flasks. What can I do to get more wimpy crybaby bleeding hearts
to say they are boycotting my website?... and name my site for me
specifically in their posts?

Mick



Steve 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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Al wrote:

........ Did any adelphia users see this picture?....



I never get pictures on RGO. Even before Adelphia linked up with
Giganews, pictures didn't appear on RGO but there was a time in the
past when they often did.
I did get the original pictures on ABPO. For unknown reasons, this
entire thread is now missing from ABPO if read from Adelphia's #1
server. It remains on their #3 server. Mick's original bomb was only
dropped on RGO and I do still see it here on RGO via Adelphia#1.
Perhaps Mick's original reply burned out some connections here and
there. ;-)

Steve


Al 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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Isn't that sweet of you to ask? I'm not that particular and I am wearing my
favorite bib, (the one with the big red orchid on it as you can see), so
pass whichever portion has the most little white marshmallows in it and I'll
be happy.

"molli" wrote in message
...
Were you wanting us to pass the fruit salad, or the blood and bar/chain

oil
Al?

--
--
Hugs,
Molli

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way.

Thank
you.






J Fortuna 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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Larry,
Yes, I know. :-)

And I must admit that as far as the quality offense is concerned I have
ignored it on purpose, knowing full well that my photos were low quality,
but if I waited until I had high quality photos I could not post orchid
photos at all, since I am almost a hopelessly bad photographer who only on
rare occasions gets a good photo by accident. However, I wanted to share my
excitement and since I knew that my hand won't get chopped off for posting a
bad quality photo on abpo, I did it anyway. Now if I had posted the same
photos on rgo, I would have gotten my hand chopped of by Mick, and I would
have gotten over it, but I probably would have posted bad quality photos
here again.

As for photo size not being a mandate in the abpo charter, maybe it should
be.

I actually think that a much more serious offense is whenever we reply to
pictures on abpo with meaningful and worthwhile textual content that could
be of benefit to others. And I don't know whether that is an offense against
the charter, but if it is not it really should be. Since abpo is not
archived and many people have access only to rgo, these messages that really
should be in rgo have a limited audience if they are not forwarded to rgo. I
wish we were as good or better about policing the
no-informative-text-only-posts-in-abpo rule as we are about policing the
no-pictures-in-rgo rule. But to my knowledge noone has been flamed yet for
posting really worthwhile text content to abpo, or have they?

Joanna

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:47:18 GMT, "J Fortuna"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

I have at times posted pictures of bad quality


That offence it truly unforgivable and despicable. :-)

and forgetting to size them down,


There is no mandate in the alt.binaries.pictures.orchids charter
concerning photograph size.





Larry Dighera 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:26:24 GMT, "J Fortuna"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

I actually think that a much more serious offense is whenever we reply to
pictures on abpo with meaningful and worthwhile textual content that could
be of benefit to others. And I don't know whether that is an offense against
the charter, but if it is not it really should be. Since abpo is not
archived and many people have access only to rgo, these messages that really
should be in rgo have a limited audience if they are not forwarded to rgo.


It is a shame that the textural _information_ (as opposed to
meaningless chit chat) posted in a.b.p.o is lost to posterity.
However, binary newsgroups are specifically intended for binary files
not text. Perhaps it should be suggested that _informational_ text
message posted in a.b.p.o be cross posted to r.g.o. Would that would
help?



Al 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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PS. Dear, you might want to set aside some of it for yourself...and get a
bib on too. I do believe there's going to be a food fight.

"Al" wrote in message
...
Isn't that sweet of you to ask? I'm not that particular and I am wearing

my
favorite bib, (the one with the big red orchid on it as you can see), so
pass whichever portion has the most little white marshmallows in it and

I'll
be happy.

"molli" wrote in message
...
Were you wanting us to pass the fruit salad, or the blood and bar/chain

oil
Al?

--
--
Hugs,
Molli

Well, isn't it a lovely day? Could someone please scoop the blood and
bar/chain oil from the top of the fruit salad and pass it this way.

Thank
you.








tbell 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 9:55:51 -0800, Al wrote
(in message ):


turn draw their newsfeeds from giganews. I think giganews blocks picture
files in non-binary hierarchies but I don't understand where Mick's initial
response to it went. So, the first I have seen of this little spat is this
apology. I suspect there are a large number of people who never even saw
your picture or Mick's initial response to it. But I may be wrong. I often
am. Did any adelphia users see this picture?


Hi, Al -
I subscribe to Giganews directly, and received both the picture and ensuing
diatribe. I've always thought it was a case of Mick Jekyll and Mick Hyde,
since Mick is certainly capable of being pleasantly informative.
Tom
Walnut Creek, CA


tbell 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

Apology to RGO newsgroup
 
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:26:24 -0800, J Fortuna wrote
(in message ):

But to my knowledge noone has been flamed yet for
posting really worthwhile text content to abpo, or have they?

Joanna

I've never seen that, Joanna, but I wonder whether such a prohibition would
be wise, since the information in such posts is usually directly applicable
to a posted photo, and would be out of context to someone only reading RGO.
Tom
Walnut Creek, CA
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Mick Fournier 20-03-2004 11:15 PM

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Henceforth, I should like to be referred to as "Mick the Informative"... as
least until another nitwit uploads a photograph.

Mick





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