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Gene,
I do not know much about the CSA and HOS awards, sorry. I have seen some pretty weak BM & SM/WOC, but it could be they were just old awards. I have seen plants with awards from orchid societies in Asia and expect it is time to learn about these award systems. As has already been said, AOS and RHS awards measure different things. I think of RHS as sort of AOS award and AOS ribbon judging combined into one. It is a special plant that can carry both awards. As to which award raises the plant value more . . .I could get myself into so much trouble here. I have made my living selling blooming plants for over a decade now and I have found that an award does not really change a plants value. I know this is not true for all orchid businesses, especially those marketing non blooming plants. Before anyone calls me nuts, look at the flask and plug offerings from the major cloning labs, very few of the plants will be carrying awards and those which do have awards carry no premium; look at the orchids for sale in the box stores or other major outlets and try to find a price difference between awarded and nonawarded plants; or even go to an orchid show and try to find a relationship between price and award level of the blooming plants being offered. I disagree with those that say an AOS award is a good measure for selecting plants for ownership or breeding. The system does not consider factors essential for making those measures. Instead I view the judging system as the AOS means for tracking and documenting the current state of orchid flowers. In a recent survey of judges, 23% of the judges said they would not award a plant if an equal plant from the same cross had been awarded a year before. The second plant is just as good as the first with or without the award, AOS has documented the cross with the first award and it is time to move on. The state of orchid flowers moves fairly quickly. In many cases flower quality that was awarded five years ago would not even be considered today. An award without knowing the date of the award is pretty meaningless for assessing the flower quality. A cross is most likely to be at least 4 years old before a plant is mature enough to be awarded. If after the award it is sent to the lab, it is another two years before clone flasks start to be return. Compot, 2.5" pot, 4" pot - at least another 3 years before the clones are blooming, nine years after the cross was first made. Buying awarded clone might not always put the best quality flowers in your collection when seedlings a couple of generations ahead of the clones are also offered. In all of this please do not get me wrong. I am always honored and a bit humbled when granted an AOS award. I addition it is always very cool when a plant you are currently breeding with or have already sent out for cloning is pulled out of an exhibit and granted an award. Pat "Gene Schurg" wrote in message ink.net... Pat, I agree with you on the profit potential metrics. It would be great for you to have lots of FCC certificates but it's customer demand that pays the heating bill. You have to grow plants that people want to display in their homes. Us crazy collectors don't buy enough to pay the bills. Do you feel an FCC from the RHS is equal to an FCC from the AOS? Does one award increase the value of the cross more than the other? I see lots of awards for plants from different groups. Is there a ranking of RHS awards are worth more than CSA, CSA worth more than HOS, etc? I guess I've always been tuned to look for AOS awards as a measure of a plant that has good potential. When I see these other awards from other groups I don't really give them the credit they deserve and maybe I should. Gene |
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