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I can`t believe this!
hello everyone!
I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? I like that! Claude PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? -- |
Claude,
Congratulations! That's great news. As for the grammar question. If Phal Penang Girl were a person, you would say: "my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago", but since it is an orchid and not a human being, the proper grammar is ""my Phal Penang Girl, which finished blooming 2 weeks ago". Of course, if you want to personify your orchid, it's ok to use "who" I guess. Joanna "Phalguy" wrote in message ... hello everyone! I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? I like that! Claude PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? -- |
Claude,
Congratulations! That's great news. As for the grammar question. If Phal Penang Girl were a person, you would say: "my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago", but since it is an orchid and not a human being, the proper grammar is ""my Phal Penang Girl, which finished blooming 2 weeks ago". Of course, if you want to personify your orchid, it's ok to use "who" I guess. Joanna "Phalguy" wrote in message ... hello everyone! I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? I like that! Claude PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? -- |
Thank you Joanna!
Claude "J Fortuna" wrote in message news:eLNKd.292$zb.32@trnddc07... | Claude, | | Congratulations! That's great news. | | As for the grammar question. If Phal Penang Girl were a person, you would | say: "my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago", but since it | is an orchid and not a human being, the proper grammar is ""my Phal Penang | Girl, which finished blooming 2 weeks ago". Of course, if you want to | personify your orchid, it's ok to use "who" I guess. | | Joanna | | "Phalguy" wrote in message | ... | hello everyone! | | I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! | This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks | ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? | | I like that! | | Claude | | | PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? | | | | -- | | | | | | | | |
I doubt it, Claude.
My reasoning is that after a cold treatment, phals usually start spiking 6-8 weeks later. a month or so seems to short for any major reaction to a culture change like spiking. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info! "Phalguy" wrote in message ... hello everyone! I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? I like that! Claude PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? -- |
I doubt it, Claude.
My reasoning is that after a cold treatment, phals usually start spiking 6-8 weeks later. a month or so seems to short for any major reaction to a culture change like spiking. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Artwork, Books and Lots of Free Info! "Phalguy" wrote in message ... hello everyone! I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? I like that! Claude PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? -- |
The answers are "maybe" and "who"
It is impossible to say with 100% certainty that that brand of fertilizer is the cause of the spike. (who) subjective pronoun a pronoun that performs an action (whom) objective pronoun a pronoun that receives an action Actually I think the word "that" in this case would work without bringing gender pronouns into it at all. "Phalguy" wrote in message ... hello everyone! I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? I like that! Claude PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? -- |
Thank you everyone!
I don`t know why it`s spiking again but I am quite happy! Thank you also for the grammar lesson :-) Claude "Al" wrote in message ... | The answers are "maybe" and "who" | | It is impossible to say with 100% certainty that that brand of fertilizer is | the cause of the spike. | | (who) | subjective pronoun | a pronoun that performs an action | | (whom) | objective pronoun | a pronoun that receives an action | | Actually I think the word "that" in this case would work without bringing | gender pronouns into it at all. | | "Phalguy" wrote in message | ... | hello everyone! | | I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! | This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks | ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? | | I like that! | | Claude | | | PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? | | | | -- | | | | | | | | |
Thank you everyone!
I don`t know why it`s spiking again but I am quite happy! Thank you also for the grammar lesson :-) Claude "Al" wrote in message ... | The answers are "maybe" and "who" | | It is impossible to say with 100% certainty that that brand of fertilizer is | the cause of the spike. | | (who) | subjective pronoun | a pronoun that performs an action | | (whom) | objective pronoun | a pronoun that receives an action | | Actually I think the word "that" in this case would work without bringing | gender pronouns into it at all. | | "Phalguy" wrote in message | ... | hello everyone! | | I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! | This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks | ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? | | I like that! | | Claude | | | PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? | | | | -- | | | | | | | | |
Actually in your example we are dealing with neither the subjective nor
objective pronoun. We are dealing with a relative pronoun that you have used to start the relative clause "who finished blooming 2 weeks ago" In American speak the relative pronounes are, "who", 'that" and "which". Relative pronouns do not have a gender. However, the words "that" and "which" are used to refer back to an object that is not a person, but "who" is often used also. Deciding to use "that"or "which" is a matter of choice also, but if you can determine if the relative clause is essential to the sentence or if it is just a thought that is added on, you can chose which is *more* correct. Use "that" when the relative phrase is essential. Use 'which" when the sentence would make sense if the relative phase were omitted. "whom" wold be wrong here no matter what. "Phalguy" wrote in message ... Thank you everyone! I don`t know why it`s spiking again but I am quite happy! Thank you also for the grammar lesson :-) Claude "Al" wrote in message ... | The answers are "maybe" and "who" | | It is impossible to say with 100% certainty that that brand of fertilizer is | the cause of the spike. | | (who) | subjective pronoun | a pronoun that performs an action | | (whom) | objective pronoun | a pronoun that receives an action | | Actually I think the word "that" in this case would work without bringing | gender pronouns into it at all. | | "Phalguy" wrote in message | ... | hello everyone! | | I switched to MSU fertilizer about 4 to 5 weeks ago! | This morning, I found my Phal Penang Girl, who finished blooming 2 weeks | ago, growing another flower spike!!! Is this related to the new MSU? | | I like that! | | Claude | | | PS: BTW, should I say who finished blooming or whom finished blooming? | | | | -- | | | | | | | | |
Al,
Would... not wold. Mick |
And there are *two* other relative pronouns, if you can believe it!
"Mick Fournier" wrote in message ... Al, Would... not wold. Mick |
Al,
We all do enjoy a good pronoun once in a while. Mick |
Mick Fournier wrote:
Al, We all do enjoy a good pronoun once in a while. Mick Being a 'passive' participant of this NG for several dozens of month already,it is quite heartening to know that quite a number of us here are actually 'dormant' English teachers. :-) |
Mick Fournier wrote:
Al, We all do enjoy a good pronoun once in a while. Mick Being a 'passive' participant of this NG for several dozens of month already,it is quite heartening to know that quite a number of us here are actually 'dormant' English teachers. :-) |
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