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H2O2
Hey list,
I was curious, many have said that 3% hydrogen peroxide is a great way to kill bacteria, fungi...etc, but if it can kill those things, why doesn't it harm the plants? It's cells either way right? Are plant roots more susceptible to H2O2 damage than leaves (if in fact damage can occur)? Cheers, Xi |
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Xi Wang wrote: Hey list, I was curious, many have said that 3% hydrogen peroxide is a great way to kill bacteria, fungi...etc, but if it can kill those things, why doesn't it harm the plants? It's cells either way right? Are plant roots more susceptible to H2O2 damage than leaves (if in fact damage can occur)? Cheers, Xi H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) gets touted as a general greenhouse antiseptic from time to time, usually in a much weaker dilution than 3%. This claim seems dubious to me because H2O2 breaks down into water and oxygen very rapidly, especially on contact with organic material. I don't think very dilute solutions would be any more effective than plain water. Whether 3% H2O2 would harm roots and leaves, I don't know. I don't have any plants I'm willing to sacrifice to find out. Highly concentrated H2O2 is very nasty stuff: ask any chemist. I mention this only because H2O2 enthusiasts often recommend folks buy strong concentrations to formulate their own weak solutions. J. Del Col |
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:07:10 -0800, "K Barrett"
wrote: Well, we'll find out becasue I just dumped half a bottle over a Bulbophyllum medusae that was smelling prety rank and had a slimy coating over the top of the s.moss. K Barrett That kind of slime I hit with Physan. But I do water sick Phal's especially if they have or have had crown rot with hydrogen peroxide. And Claude I thought you were very clear. Never had thought about why it works. Just knew they used it on crown rot and had a plant I wanted to save. At a $1 a bottle it was a cheap therapy. And it worked on two of mine that had gotten down to 1 leaf and in one case it was a very limp leaf for a very long time. Some Phal's are reluctant to keiki especially below the crown. SuE http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php |
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Xi Wang wrote:
Well, I was hoping to use it as an agent with which to control fungi. I've heard that it works, but fungi need oxygen, so I'm not sure how it can be effective..... I don't officially know anything about it, but I do know that plants have very tough cell walls. Fungi, as a rule, do not, as far as I know. Hence, the hydrogen peroxide may be able to penetrate the fungal cells more effectively. The 'toxic' mechanism of H202 has very little to do with more oxygen. At least in the way you think. It has everything to do with oxygen radicals - charged derivatives of H2O2 that are very reactive with most biological molecules. Including DNA. Oxygen radicals are one of the most potent things that damage DNA. An excess of oxygen radicals will modify proteins and DNA to the point where the cell can no longer survive. Obviously a single celled organism is more prone than a multicelled organism - it gets whacked from all sides, whereas a multicelled organism has layers of cells, only the outer ones are affected. I bet most of your 'slime' and pathogenic fungi are single celled fungi. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a) See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more orchids, obtain more credit |
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