Can someone look up the correct classification for 'Shimpaku'? I have seen it
referred to J. chinensis, J. xmedia, and J. chinensis var. sargentii.
Thanks,
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much
that ain't so."
Josh Billings (Henry Wheeler Shaw), 1818-1885

In article , Iris Cohen
writes
Can someone look up the correct classification for 'Shimpaku'? I have seen it
referred to J. chinensis, J. xmedia, and J. chinensis var. sargentii.
Thanks,

FWIW, the RHS Plantfinder has it under _J. chinensis_.

http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder...=Juniperus%20a
nd%20chinensis&Genus=Juniperus
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

FWIW, the RHS Plantfinder has it under _J. chinensis_

Thanks. I wonder...

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much
that ain't so."
Josh Billings (Henry Wheeler Shaw), 1818-1885

FWIW, the RHS Plantfinder has it under _J. chinensis_

Iris Cohen schreef
Thanks. I wonder...
Iris,

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FWMIW:
Juniperus media does not appear a current name, certainly not to the RHS,
the IR for conifers
PvR

Juniperus media does not appear a current name, certainly not to the RHS,

Where did they put things like 'Pfitzer's' and 'Blaauw'? What is the rationale
behind not accepting J. xmedia?

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much
that ain't so."
Josh Billings (Henry Wheeler Shaw), 1818-1885

In article , Iris Cohen
writes
Juniperus media does not appear a current name, certainly not to the RHS,

Where did they put things like 'Pfitzer's' and 'Blaauw'? What is the rationale
behind not accepting J. xmedia?

'Blaauw' is under _J. chinesis_; most former _J. x media_ are under _J.
x pfitzeriana_. The nomenclature notes for the RHS Plant Finder say of
_J. x media_

"Juniperus x media This name is illegitimate if applied to hybrids of J.
chinensis x J. sabina, having been previously used for a different
hybrid (P.A. Schmidt, IDS Yearbook 1993, 47-48). Because of its
importance to gardeners, a proposal to conserve its present use was
tabled but subsequently rejected."

_J. x pfitzeriana_ presumably is a name introduced to fill the gap.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Juniperus media does not appear a current name, certainly not to the
RHS,

Iris Cohen schreef
Where did they put things like 'Pfitzer's' and 'Blaauw'? What is the
rationale behind not accepting J. xmedia?

Iris

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Whatever happened to the easy questions?
Are you sure you want to know?
Taxon 44: 229-231. 1995
Taxon 46: 324-325. 1997

Trying to summarize:
Every botanical name may be used only once and the first publication counts
There are two Juniperus x media, and the Russian one of 1938 is the oldest.
According to Farjon (1998) this now belongs to the synonymy of Juniperus
semiglobosa.

Since the other Juniperus x media is the better-known this was proposed for
conservation, which would allow it to be used in spite of the fact that it
does not have priority. This proposal was fairly hotly debated but
eventually unanimously rejected (a fairly rare event). Something that
weighed heavily was the fact that there are / were two Juniperus xmedia's
which are / were both somewhat in use, but everything that was once in the
well-known Juniperus x media and was not a mere cultivar of Juniperus
chinensis was associated with 'Pfitzer' & al. Furthermore the name Juniperus
x pfitzeriana also did exist for these plants and this would be unambiguous.
Likely 'Pfizter' & al are now in Juniperus x pfitzeriana.

If Stewart Robert Hinsley has a new (post-1999) RHS Plantfinder he can
confirm this?

How is this for an answer?
PvR

In article , P van Rijckevorsel
writes

If Stewart Robert Hinsley has a new (post-1999) RHS Plantfinder he can
confirm this?

I don't (latest copy is 1996/97), but the RHS Plant Finder is now
online. See upthread.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

P van Rijckevorsel writes
If Stewart Robert Hinsley has a new (post-1999) RHS Plantfinder he can
confirm this?

Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
I don't (latest copy is 1996/97), but the RHS Plant Finder is now
online. See upthread.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

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Thanks. Had overlooked that. Great resource for the horticulturally
interested! (exclude me out)

Maybe I should take the opportunity to point out that the RHS also has a
list of currently accepted names for species of conifers:

http://www.rhs.org.uk/research/regis...s_accepted.asp

PvR