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Old 26-09-2003, 06:12 PM
Xavier Vanbecelaere
 
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I have a question concerning the Latin names

Where does the "L." stands for

example: Ceratonia Siliqua L.
Olea Sylvestris L.


Are there other Letters like these used?




Regards,

Xavier.


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Old 26-09-2003, 06:33 PM
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The L. stands for Linnaeus. He gave the plant its name. He was the
first one to start naming plants like this so you see an "L." after the
names of a lot of plants.

Xavier Vanbecelaere wrote:

I have a question concerning the Latin names

Where does the "L." stands for

example: Ceratonia Siliqua L.
Olea Sylvestris L.

Are there other Letters like these used?

Regards,

Xavier.


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Old 26-09-2003, 06:43 PM
Xavier Vanbecelaere
 
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Oh, men.

One step further to all wisdom.


thank you very much.




"Nick Harby" schreef in bericht
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The L. stands for Linnaeus. He gave the plant its name. He was the
first one to start naming plants like this so you see an "L." after the
names of a lot of plants.

Xavier Vanbecelaere wrote:

I have a question concerning the Latin names

Where does the "L." stands for

example: Ceratonia Siliqua L.
Olea Sylvestris L.

Are there other Letters like these used?

Regards,

Xavier.




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Old 26-09-2003, 07:23 PM
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In article , Xavier
Vanbecelaere writes
I have a question concerning the Latin names

Where does the "L." stands for

example: Ceratonia Siliqua L.
Olea Sylvestris L.


Are there other Letters like these used?


As has already been said L. is an abbreviation for Linnaeus. (L. f. is
an abbrevation for his son.)

There is a strong tendency to abbreviate the names of authors of
scientific names of organisms (e.g. Hook. for Hooker, Lam. for Lamarck,
Cav. for Cavanilles), but they're rarely shortened as far as one letter
- even Linnaeus is sometimes abbreviated as Linn. rather than L.

I've seen T. for Tournefort [1], and H., B. & K. for Humbert, Bonpland
and Kunth. DC. is the abbreviation for De Candolle. Another book is
using F. & R., but I don't know who this refers to.

[1] Tournefort predates Linnaeus, and as year zero for priority of names
is Linnaeus's Species Plantarum of 1753, Tournefort doesn't count for
authorship; however some older literature recognised pre-Linnaean
authors, in some cases as far back as Pliny.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley
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Old 26-09-2003, 09:32 PM
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Xavier Vanbecelaere writes
I have a question concerning the Latin names


Where does the "L." stands for
example: Ceratonia Siliqua L.
Olea Sylvestris L.

Are there other Letters like these used?


Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef

As has already been said L. is an abbreviation for Linnaeus. (L. f. is
an abbrevation for his son.)

There is a strong tendency to abbreviate the names of authors of

scientific names of organisms (e.g. Hook. for Hooker, Lam. for Lamarck,
Cav. for Cavanilles), but they're rarely shortened as far as one letter
- even Linnaeus is sometimes abbreviated as Linn. rather than L.

I've seen T. for Tournefort [1], and H., B. & K. for Humbert, Bonpland

and Kunth. DC. is the abbreviation for De Candolle. Another book is
using F. & R., but I don't know who this refers to.

[1] Tournefort predates Linnaeus, and as year zero for priority of names

is Linnaeus's Species Plantarum of 1753, Tournefort doesn't count for
authorship; however some older literature recognised pre-Linnaean
authors, in some cases as far back as Pliny.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley


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Careful. These days there is a list of standard abbreviations of author
names, which was published in book form in 1992. These days it can be
consulted online:
http://www.us.ipni.org/ipni/query_author.html

In earlier days single letters were used as abbreviations for the best known
authors for example "W." for Willdenow but I think these days Linnaeus is
the only one, with indeed "L.f." the abbreviation for his son.

There were a number of combinations of letters, for example:
B.S.P. = Britton, Sterns & Poggenburg
H.B.K. = Humbold, Bonpland & Kunth
R. & P. = Ruiz & Pavon
T. & B. = Teijsman & Binnendijk

These are out and have to be updated to: "Britton & al.", "Kunth", "Ruiz &
Pav." and "Teijsm. & Binn.". Don't know about "F. & R." There was an "F. &
M." also an "Fr."

Linnaeus indeed was not so much the first to coin plant names, but the one
to have his magnum opus of 1753 accepted as the starting point of binary
nomenclature. Obviously this was not a random decision but the result of his
merit and hard work. This year was the 250 year anniversary!
PvR








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Old 26-09-2003, 10:35 PM
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You will still see a lot of T. & G.,also, which is short for Torrey
and Gray.

M. Reed,
wondering how/when the Dubrule and Canne-Hilliker will be abbreviated
on the plant I work with...
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Old 27-09-2003, 03:34 AM
Iris Cohen
 
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What does the "L." stands for
example: Ceratonia siliqua L.

Linnaeus. Carolus Linnaeus or Karl von Linne was the father of our modern
binomial system of scientific names. Any botanical name with L. after it dates
from 1753. If you want to pay your respects, there is a heroic size statue of
the gentleman in the Chicago Botanic Garden.

Are there other Letters like these used?
yes. In the full formal citation of a scientific name, the genus & species are
followed by the "author" or "authority," the person who published the name.
They are usually abbreviated.
There are a great many. I could name some, but you might get indigestion. Some
of the most important in orchids are Lindley, Reichenbach jr. (abbreviated
Rchb. f.), Rolfe, Kunth, and today Averyonov, Christenson, Gruss, and others.
If you are mainly a gardener, you don't have to worry about them.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
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Old 27-09-2003, 07:34 AM
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Monique Reed schreef
You will still see a lot of T. & G.,also, which is short for Torrey

and Gray.

M. Reed,
wondering how/when the Dubrule and Canne-Hilliker will be abbreviated

on the plant I work with...

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A matter of record:
(http://www.us.ipni.org/ipni/AuthorSe...abbrev=Dubrule
&isoCountry=&query_type=by_name )
( http://www.us.ipni.org/ipni/AuthorSe...Canne-Hilliker
&abbrev=&isoCountry=&query_type=by_name )
PvR






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Old 27-09-2003, 07:34 AM
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Iris Cohen schreef:
Any botanical name with L. after it dates from 1753.


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! ! ! Linnaeus did not die in 1753 and published quite a few names later on!
+ + +

If you want to pay your respects, there is a heroic size statue of
the gentleman in the Chicago Botanic Garden.


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The tercentenary in 2007 should be big, worldwide.
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If you are mainly a gardener, you don't have to worry about them.
Iris,


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Quite. They should not be contagious.
PvR




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Old 27-09-2003, 02:22 PM
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You ask not about Latinized plant names but rather abbreviated author names.

"L." is Carolus Linnaeus, the father on modern botany. He invented the
binomial plant system used to this day. You should have learned that in
intro to botany.

There are now hundreds of standardized author name abbreviations.

http://www.us.ipni.org/ipni/query_author.html


Xavier Vanbecelaere wrote in message
e...
I have a question concerning the Latin names

Where does the "L." stands for

example: Ceratonia Siliqua L.
Olea Sylvestris L.


Are there other Letters like these used?




Regards,

Xavier.






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Old 27-09-2003, 03:42 PM
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Cereoid-UR12- schreef
You ask not about Latinized plant names but rather abbreviated author

names.

"L." is Carolus Linnaeus, the father on modern botany. He invented the
binomial plant system used to this day. You should have learned that in
intro to botany.


+ + +
Along with how Mickey Mouse saved the world
+ + +

There are now hundreds of standardized author name abbreviations.


+ + +
Actually over 30.000. Off by a factor 100 this time.
Is this a gain in accuracy for you?
You are also lagging a day behind.
PvR

PS. Got kicked out by prodigy?







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Old 28-09-2003, 01:33 AM
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ROTFLMAO!!!

Yeah sure, Rinkytink. I've moved on the Spam.net International, the biggest
new ISP since your mother went pro!!! If you believe that, I've got some
swamp land to sell you. (There are no ISPs big enough to compare with your
mother going pro!!!!)


P van Rijckevorsel wrote in message
.. .
Cereoid-UR12- schreef
You ask not about Latinized plant names but rather abbreviated author

names.

"L." is Carolus Linnaeus, the father on modern botany. He invented the
binomial plant system used to this day. You should have learned that in
intro to botany.


+ + +
Along with how Mickey Mouse saved the world
+ + +

There are now hundreds of standardized author name abbreviations.


+ + +
Actually over 30.000. Off by a factor 100 this time.
Is this a gain in accuracy for you?
You are also lagging a day behind.
PvR

PS. Got kicked out by prodigy?




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ROTFLMAO!!!

Yeah sure, Rinkytink. I've moved on the Spam.net International, the biggest
new ISP since your mother went pro!!! If you believe that, I've got some
swamp land to sell you. (There are no ISPs big enough to compare with your
mother going pro!!!!)


P van Rijckevorsel wrote in message
.. .
Cereoid-UR12- schreef
You ask not about Latinized plant names but rather abbreviated author

names.

"L." is Carolus Linnaeus, the father on modern botany. He invented the
binomial plant system used to this day. You should have learned that in
intro to botany.


+ + +
Along with how Mickey Mouse saved the world
+ + +

There are now hundreds of standardized author name abbreviations.


+ + +
Actually over 30.000. Off by a factor 100 this time.
Is this a gain in accuracy for you?
You are also lagging a day behind.
PvR

PS. Got kicked out by prodigy?




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Cereoid, may I ask you a question, please?
What is your purpose here on sci.bio.botany?
Why do you work so hard to suppress your own good nature ?
On the odd occasions when you volunteer information you display some
knowledge of botany. You are obviously capable of becoming not only an
interesting contributor to this group but also someone whose character and
personality make him a worthwhile friend and partner in debate.
Basically I'd just like to know "what's up?". If other "posters" here have
at some time been guilty of what you perceived at the time as being a
slighting remark or a "put-down" then I'm absolutely sure they didn't intend
to drive you into this strange and atavistic defensive mode of behaviour.
How about realizing that, first of all, they mean you no harm, and that
secondly your contributions to the group (of which it's self-evident you are
an avid reader) would be so much more fun if you were able to interact with
your fellow posters as a friend and brother. I'm being totally sincere here,
Cereoid, and I'm also absolutely sure that other "posters" on the group are
only waiting for a few pleasant words from you before they respond
accordingly.
Very best, (from a cold and rainy Britain)
James Tolber.


"Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message
m...
ROTFLMAO!!!

Yeah sure, Rinkytink. I've moved on the Spam.net International, the

biggest
new ISP since your mother went pro!!! If you believe that, I've got some
swamp land to sell you. (There are no ISPs big enough to compare with your
mother going pro!!!!)


P van Rijckevorsel wrote in message
.. .
Cereoid-UR12- schreef
You ask not about Latinized plant names but rather abbreviated author

names.

"L." is Carolus Linnaeus, the father on modern botany. He invented

the
binomial plant system used to this day. You should have learned that

in
intro to botany.


+ + +
Along with how Mickey Mouse saved the world
+ + +

There are now hundreds of standardized author name abbreviations.


+ + +
Actually over 30.000. Off by a factor 100 this time.
Is this a gain in accuracy for you?
You are also lagging a day behind.
PvR

PS. Got kicked out by prodigy?






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Since we are now completely off-topic................

I am here to befuddle and confuse you personally, Jim Bob.

I am not here to wax pedantic or cater to prevaricating clowns.

Rinkytink is an obnoxious arrogant narcissistic troll, if you haven't
noticed while wearing you rose tinted glasses. I bet you even believe that
Adolph Hitler was a misunderstood peace-loving nice guy too. The bombing of
London was just urban renewal, you say?


James wrote in message
...
Cereoid, may I ask you a question, please?
What is your purpose here on sci.bio.botany?
Why do you work so hard to suppress your own good nature ?
On the odd occasions when you volunteer information you display some
knowledge of botany. You are obviously capable of becoming not only an
interesting contributor to this group but also someone whose character and
personality make him a worthwhile friend and partner in debate.
Basically I'd just like to know "what's up?". If other "posters" here have
at some time been guilty of what you perceived at the time as being a
slighting remark or a "put-down" then I'm absolutely sure they didn't

intend
to drive you into this strange and atavistic defensive mode of behaviour.
How about realizing that, first of all, they mean you no harm, and that
secondly your contributions to the group (of which it's self-evident you

are
an avid reader) would be so much more fun if you were able to interact

with
your fellow posters as a friend and brother. I'm being totally sincere

here,
Cereoid, and I'm also absolutely sure that other "posters" on the group

are
only waiting for a few pleasant words from you before they respond
accordingly.
Very best, (from a cold and rainy Britain)
James Tolber.


"Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message
m...
ROTFLMAO!!!

Yeah sure, Rinkytink. I've moved on the Spam.net International, the

biggest
new ISP since your mother went pro!!! If you believe that, I've got some
swamp land to sell you. (There are no ISPs big enough to compare with

your
mother going pro!!!!)


P van Rijckevorsel wrote in message
.. .
Cereoid-UR12- schreef
You ask not about Latinized plant names but rather abbreviated

author
names.

"L." is Carolus Linnaeus, the father on modern botany. He invented

the
binomial plant system used to this day. You should have learned that

in
intro to botany.

+ + +
Along with how Mickey Mouse saved the world
+ + +

There are now hundreds of standardized author name abbreviations.

+ + +
Actually over 30.000. Off by a factor 100 this time.
Is this a gain in accuracy for you?
You are also lagging a day behind.
PvR

PS. Got kicked out by prodigy?








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