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why they are coiled?
It is so as to avoid having corners.
Corners are ugly things, sticking out and inviting breakage. PvR R.bioson schreef in berichtnieuws ... I have seen many plants and other livingthings having their coiled body. many trees can have a right hand strand or a left hand strand form, just as they are forced to be that, but what caused them like that? I also find that in our universe there are so mang coiled forms, the typhoon, the clouds, the rocks, the stars groups and so on. Is it to say that the coiled form is mor stable than other forms? even I have been told that there are many right hand coiled forms than the left handed forms. but why? |
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why they are coiled?
A coil has far less outer surface area than does a line. The coil is more
practical than stable. Are you trying to say a spiral is the same as a coil? Check out the Fibonacci series. You ask the person who told you there are more right handed coils than left why they said that. The orbits of the planets are elliptical not coiled. The various star groups are in many different forms. Clouds certainly are not coiled. Coiled rocks? Sez who? R.bioson wrote in message om... I have seen many plants and other livingthings having their coiled body. many trees can have a right hand strand or a left hand strand form, just as they are forced to be that, but what caused them like that? I also find that in our universe there are so mang coiled forms, the typhoon, the clouds, the rocks, the stars groups and so on. Is it to say that the coiled form is mor stable than other forms? even I have been told that there are many right hand coiled forms than the left handed forms. but why? |
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why they are coiled?
Keith Michaels schreef
A snail shell forms an exponential spiral because the direction of new growth is proportional to all the growth that has come before. If the growth direction is offset on the Z axis then it forms a helix, or coil. Starting the helix in one direction (left or right) is reinforced by subsequent growth. There is probably a predisposition to handedness based on unit shape, and a randomizing component like environment (temperature etc.) or a mutation that gets things going in one direction or the other. + + + Reminds me of an experiment they did to estimate the proportion of left- versus right-handed shells in sea snail shells. This involved a lot of manufactured plastic snail shells (sponsored by Shell) which were dumped in the sea. At various points along the coast they counted left and right-handed shells. It proved that watercurrents performed an advance sort and deposited different shells at different points along the coast. You could "prove" any proportion of left- versus right-handed shells by selecting a collecting spot. PvR |
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why they are coiled?
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"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote: Keith Michaels schreef A snail shell forms an exponential spiral because the direction of new growth is proportional to all the growth that has come before. If the growth direction is offset on the Z axis then it forms a helix, or coil. Starting the helix in one direction (left or right) is reinforced by subsequent growth. There is probably a predisposition to handedness based on unit shape, and a randomizing component like environment (temperature etc.) or a mutation that gets things going in one direction or the other. + + + Reminds me of an experiment they did to estimate the proportion of left- versus right-handed shells in sea snail shells. This involved a lot of manufactured plastic snail shells (sponsored by Shell) which were dumped in the sea. At various points along the coast they counted left and right-handed shells. It proved that watercurrents performed an advance sort and deposited different shells at different points along the coast. You could "prove" any proportion of left- versus right-handed shells by selecting a collecting spot. The same sorting by currents has allegedly been demonstrated for rubber thongs lost overboard. Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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why they are coiled?
you say that there is far practical than stable the form is,Why?
I have checked the snails and seashells that they are the same as that were said as the person told me. there are more right-handed seashells than the left-handed ones in mang species, and I have also found out that the seashells fossils found to be left-handed, of cause this is got from the very species, but what it told us? I think that the envriment is the same as before, but what caused the form pattner of the seashells to change, I can find out nothing according to this. How to explain this phonomenon? the star groups usually to be as a spiral form as ours own galaxy, do not you know. also thanks a lot! "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message om... A coil has far less outer surface area than does a line. The coil is more practical than stable. Are you trying to say a spiral is the same as a coil? Check out the Fibonacci series. You ask the person who told you there are more right handed coils than left why they said that. The orbits of the planets are elliptical not coiled. The various star groups are in many different forms. Clouds certainly are not coiled. Coiled rocks? Sez who? R.bioson wrote in message om... I have seen many plants and other livingthings having their coiled body. many trees can have a right hand strand or a left hand strand form, just as they are forced to be that, but what caused them like that? I also find that in our universe there are so mang coiled forms, the typhoon, the clouds, the rocks, the stars groups and so on. Is it to say that the coiled form is mor stable than other forms? even I have been told that there are many right hand coiled forms than the left handed forms. but why? |
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why they are coiled?
Don't be limited by what you know. Learn more and investigate the
exceptions. Beware of what other people tell you. Do your own research. What does any of this have to do with botany? What is the point you are trying to make? R.bioson wrote in message om... you say that there is far practical than stable the form is,Why? I have checked the snails and seashells that they are the same as that were said as the person told me. there are more right-handed seashells than the left-handed ones in mang species, and I have also found out that the seashells fossils found to be left-handed, of cause this is got from the very species, but what it told us? I think that the envriment is the same as before, but what caused the form pattner of the seashells to change, I can find out nothing according to this. How to explain this phonomenon? the star groups usually to be as a spiral form as ours own galaxy, do not you know. also thanks a lot! "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message om... A coil has far less outer surface area than does a line. The coil is more practical than stable. Are you trying to say a spiral is the same as a coil? Check out the Fibonacci series. You ask the person who told you there are more right handed coils than left why they said that. The orbits of the planets are elliptical not coiled. The various star groups are in many different forms. Clouds certainly are not coiled. Coiled rocks? Sez who? R.bioson wrote in message om... I have seen many plants and other livingthings having their coiled body. many trees can have a right hand strand or a left hand strand form, just as they are forced to be that, but what caused them like that? I also find that in our universe there are so mang coiled forms, the typhoon, the clouds, the rocks, the stars groups and so on. Is it to say that the coiled form is mor stable than other forms? even I have been told that there are many right hand coiled forms than the left handed forms. but why? |
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why they are coiled?
Medieval figurines have a "S" shape that is quite attractive.
"Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message om... Don't be limited by what you know. Learn more and investigate the exceptions. Beware of what other people tell you. Do your own research. What does any of this have to do with botany? What is the point you are trying to make? R.bioson wrote in message om... you say that there is far practical than stable the form is,Why? I have checked the snails and seashells that they are the same as that were said as the person told me. there are more right-handed seashells than the left-handed ones in mang species, and I have also found out that the seashells fossils found to be left-handed, of cause this is got from the very species, but what it told us? I think that the envriment is the same as before, but what caused the form pattner of the seashells to change, I can find out nothing according to this. How to explain this phonomenon? the star groups usually to be as a spiral form as ours own galaxy, do not you know. also thanks a lot! "Cereoid-UR12-" wrote in message om... A coil has far less outer surface area than does a line. The coil is more practical than stable. Are you trying to say a spiral is the same as a coil? Check out the Fibonacci series. You ask the person who told you there are more right handed coils than left why they said that. The orbits of the planets are elliptical not coiled. The various star groups are in many different forms. Clouds certainly are not coiled. Coiled rocks? Sez who? R.bioson wrote in message om... I have seen many plants and other livingthings having their coiled body. many trees can have a right hand strand or a left hand strand form, just as they are forced to be that, but what caused them like that? I also find that in our universe there are so mang coiled forms, the typhoon, the clouds, the rocks, the stars groups and so on. Is it to say that the coiled form is mor stable than other forms? even I have been told that there are many right hand coiled forms than the left handed forms. but why? |
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