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Old 10-02-2004, 09:04 PM
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Hi everyone,

Can you guys help me with a question about onions in all its forms (garlics,
leeks, ramsons, chives, etc,) as a foodstuff? From what I can ascertain,
onions and oniony type things occur on just about every continent, at
various altitudes and latitudes but I can't find any types outside of
cultivation in S. America.

I'm interested as to whether pre-Columbian, Central and S.American peoples
used alliums and their like in their diet - I know they did in the Northern
states (Ramps, etc).

Presumably indigenous allium species do exist in S.America (or do they?)
but I just don't know where I might find out. Do you guys know of any info
on South American edible wild onion species or where I might find out?

Many thanks,

Mike






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Old 10-02-2004, 11:37 PM
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mike schreef
Can you guys help me with a question about onions in all its forms

(garlics, leeks, ramsons, chives, etc,) as a foodstuff? From what I can
ascertain, onions and oniony type things occur on just about every
continent, at various altitudes and latitudes but I can't find any types
outside of cultivation in S. America.

I'm interested as to whether pre-Columbian, Central and S.American peoples

used alliums and their like in their diet - I know they did in the Northern
states (Ramps, etc).

Presumably indigenous allium species do exist in S.America (or do they?)

but I just don't know where I might find out. Do you guys know of any info
on South American edible wild onion species or where I might find out?

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There appear to be no onion species from S-America to have made a big
impression in the rest of the world. A quick look in Mabberley shows Mexico
to be a center of Allium species.

I suppose a revision of Allium will help?
(B.Mathew reviewed Allium sect Allium in 1996)
PvR






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mike schreef
Can you guys help me with a question about onions in all its forms

(garlics, leeks, ramsons, chives, etc,) as a foodstuff? From what I can
ascertain, onions and oniony type things occur on just about every
continent, at various altitudes and latitudes but I can't find any types
outside of cultivation in S. America.

I'm interested as to whether pre-Columbian, Central and S.American peoples

used alliums and their like in their diet - I know they did in the Northern
states (Ramps, etc).

Presumably indigenous allium species do exist in S.America (or do they?)

but I just don't know where I might find out. Do you guys know of any info
on South American edible wild onion species or where I might find out?

+ + +
There appear to be no onion species from S-America to have made a big
impression in the rest of the world. A quick look in Mabberley shows Mexico
to be a center of Allium species.

I suppose a revision of Allium will help?
(B.Mathew reviewed Allium sect Allium in 1996)
PvR






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mike schreef
Can you guys help me with a question about onions in all its forms

(garlics, leeks, ramsons, chives, etc,) as a foodstuff? From what I can
ascertain, onions and oniony type things occur on just about every
continent, at various altitudes and latitudes but I can't find any types
outside of cultivation in S. America.

I'm interested as to whether pre-Columbian, Central and S.American peoples

used alliums and their like in their diet - I know they did in the Northern
states (Ramps, etc).

Presumably indigenous allium species do exist in S.America (or do they?)

but I just don't know where I might find out. Do you guys know of any info
on South American edible wild onion species or where I might find out?

+ + +
There appear to be no onion species from S-America to have made a big
impression in the rest of the world. A quick look in Mabberley shows Mexico
to be a center of Allium species.

I suppose a revision of Allium will help?
(B.Mathew reviewed Allium sect Allium in 1996)
PvR






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Old 11-02-2004, 04:27 AM
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If you do a Google search on Alliaceae South America, you will find that there
are no true Alliums native to South America. There are some relatives there,
like Nothoscordum.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
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If you do a Google search on Alliaceae South America, you will find that there
are no true Alliums native to South America. There are some relatives there,
like Nothoscordum.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
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Hi again,
Just a line to say thanks for the courteous replies to my query on onion
type plants in pre-columbian america.
Mike (the onion guy)


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Hi again,
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type plants in pre-columbian america.
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Hi again,
Just a line to say thanks for the courteous replies to my query on onion
type plants in pre-columbian america.
Mike (the onion guy)


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Hi again,
Just a line to say thanks for the courteous replies to my query on onion
type plants in pre-columbian america.
Mike (the onion guy)


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A little clarification. "Onion-type" plants is not the same thing as the
genus Allium. The family Alliaceae is well represented in South America by
several genera, a number of which are endemic. The genus Allium is not
native to South America.


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Just a line to say thanks for the courteous replies to my query on onion
type plants in pre-columbian america.
Mike (the onion guy)


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Cereus-validus wrote in message
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A little clarification. "Onion-type" plants is not the same thing as the
genus Allium. The family Alliaceae is well represented in South America by
several genera, a number of which are endemic.


Thanks. What are these species called and are they edible? Which was all I
asked
in my first post.
Thanks again,
Mike


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Cereus-validus wrote in message
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A little clarification. "Onion-type" plants is not the same thing as the
genus Allium. The family Alliaceae is well represented in South America by
several genera, a number of which are endemic.


Thanks. What are these species called and are they edible? Which was all I
asked
in my first post.
Thanks again,
Mike


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I am surprised that a google search hasn't turned up anything on South
American Alliaceae.

Other posters seem to have found something on the subject.


mike wrote in message
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Cereus-validus wrote in message
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A little clarification. "Onion-type" plants is not the same thing as the
genus Allium. The family Alliaceae is well represented in South America

by
several genera, a number of which are endemic.


Thanks. What are these species called and are they edible? Which was all

I
asked
in my first post.
Thanks again,
Mike


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