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25-03-2004, 01:04 PM
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Invasive Plants - Butterfly Bush Now one!
Yet it is being promoted like mad by the Plant sellers!
Problem: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ed...=Searc h+News Local Plants are the best: http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa.../1079902477439 80.xml Headline: Pennsylvania News Environmental and government groups tell gardeners to go native The Associated Press 3/21/2004, 3:55 p.m. ET READING, Pa. (AP) — Environmental and government groups have a message for gardeners: Go native. Nonnative plants in a back yard or flower bed may look lovely, like purple loosestrife, or smell divine, like the honeysuckle vine, but they can choke out wildflowers and other plants that are native to the area, said Susan Munch, an Albright College associate biology professor. "These are very aggressive plants. They grow very fast, put up leaves very early in spring and grow so close together there's no room for others to grow," Munch told about 30 people at a workshop organized by the Pike Oley District Preservation Coalition. Some of the infiltrating plants came as seeds accidentally stowed in cargo in ships arriving from Europe or attached to the fur of imported animals. In other cases, conservancy and government groups intentionally developed and planted the invasive species, Munch said. For example, state and federal transportation departments planted the crown vetch to hold soil along roads. The plan worked, but the invasive plant quickly spread into surrounding woods, Munch said. "The government wasn't well educated until very recently," she said. Munch said the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources now is working to educate people. Awareness of invasive plants is crucial to keep gardeners from unintentionally spreading the problem by sowing the seeds of invasive plants, said Phoebe L. Hopkins, a member of Pike Oley group. "Lots of times you order these things unknowingly" because plant catalogs don't always identify plants as nonnative, Hopkins said. Exeter Township resident Jim F. Houston said he recognized many of the plants Munch described because he has been battling them in his own back yard. Oriental bittersweet has been pulling down his trees and purple loosestrife has been cropping up everywhere, he said. ----------------- Butterfly Bush labeled an invasive: http://www.invasive.org/eastern/midatlantic/budd.html http://www.lebanon-express.com/artic...ine/news13.txt http://www2.kval.com/x30530.xml?Pare...44478&Lay out =kval.xsl&AdGroupID=x30530 --------------- Yet it is being promoted like Mad: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...uy+butterfly+b ush&btnG=Google+Search http://springhillnursery.com/search....+bush&x=12&y=3 |
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27-03-2004, 04:12 AM
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Invasive Plants - Butterfly Bush Now one!
(Aozotorp) wrote in message ...
Yet it is being promoted like mad by the Plant sellers! Problem: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ed...=Searc h+News Local Plants are the best: http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa.../1079902477439 80.xml Headline: Pennsylvania News Environmental and government groups tell gardeners to go native The Associated Press 3/21/2004, 3:55 p.m. ET READING, Pa. (AP) â€" Environmental and government groups have a message for gardeners: Go native. Nonnative plants in a back yard or flower bed may look lovely, like purple loosestrife, or smell divine, like the honeysuckle vine, but they can choke out wildflowers and other plants that are native to the area, said Susan Munch, an Albright College associate biology professor. "These are very aggressive plants. They grow very fast, put up leaves very early in spring and grow so close together there's no room for others to grow," Munch told about 30 people at a workshop organized by the Pike Oley District Preservation Coalition. Some of the infiltrating plants came as seeds accidentally stowed in cargo in ships arriving from Europe or attached to the fur of imported animals. In other cases, conservancy and government groups intentionally developed and planted the invasive species, Munch said. For example, state and federal transportation departments planted the crown vetch to hold soil along roads. The plan worked, but the invasive plant quickly spread into surrounding woods, Munch said. "The government wasn't well educated until very recently," she said. Munch said the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources now is working to educate people. Awareness of invasive plants is crucial to keep gardeners from unintentionally spreading the problem by sowing the seeds of invasive plants, said Phoebe L. Hopkins, a member of Pike Oley group. "Lots of times you order these things unknowingly" because plant catalogs don't always identify plants as nonnative, Hopkins said. Exeter Township resident Jim F. Houston said he recognized many of the plants Munch described because he has been battling them in his own back yard. Oriental bittersweet has been pulling down his trees and purple loosestrife has been cropping up everywhere, he said. ----------------- Butterfly Bush labeled an invasive: http://www.invasive.org/eastern/midatlantic/budd.html http://www.lebanon-express.com/artic...ine/news13.txt http://www2.kval.com/x30530.xml?Pare...44478&Lay out =kval.xsl&AdGroupID=x30530 Yet it is being promoted like Mad: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...uy+butterfly+b ush&btnG=Google+Search http://springhillnursery.com/search....+bush&x=12&y=3 Unfortunately, the webpages describing butterfly bush as an invasive species contradict each other. The Lebanon Express webpage states that some butterfly bush cultivars do not appear to be invasive. These noninvasive cultivars should be identified so gardeners have safe choices. The native substitutes for butterfly bush are not all good replacements. Butterfly weed is a short herbaceous perennial so is hardly a substitute for a tall shrub like butterfly bush. In many areas in the Eastern U.S. deer overpopulation probably causes more damage to native vegetation than invasive plants. http://pa.audubon.org/Deerfactsheetrev1.htm Unfortunately, government officials don't have the guts to stand up to the many "Bambi-lovers" opposed to thinning the herds. Invasive garden plants are certainly a problem but there doesn't seem be much government leadership on wider use of native plants. It is rather ironic that the U.S. Botanic Gardens and the National Arboretum both feature mainly nonnative plants. One American company is selling memorial trees, yet most are foreign species such as Austrian pine, Japanese maple, ginkgo, Deodara cedar and Chinese dogwood. http://www.thoughtfulexpressionsbyma...146/239005.htm Ironically, even some of the American Forests historic trees are not American species, including Clara Barton kousa dogwood, Harry S. Truman gingko, James Madison's Montpelier English oak and John Bartrum's golden rain tree. What better way to remember John Bartrum as "Father of American Botany" than with a foreign tree species? http://www.historictrees.org/home.asp If federal or state governments wanted to demonstrate leadership in the area of invasive ornamental plants, they would require that all new trees and shrubs used to landscape government properties are U.S. natives. American native plants don't get much respect in the USA, and planting native plants is not widely considered patriotic. Europeans often seem to appreciate American flora more than Americans. The annual Washington D.C. Japanese cherry blossom festival is a good example. An equally spectacular display could be had with American native trees such as dogwoods and redbuds. |
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29-03-2004, 09:32 PM
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Invasive Plants - Butterfly Bush Now one!
(David Hershey) wrote in message . com...
(Aozotorp) wrote in message ... Yet it is being promoted like mad by the Plant sellers! Problem: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ed...=Searc h+News Local Plants are the best: http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa.../1079902477439 80.xml Headline: Pennsylvania News Environmental and government groups tell gardeners to go native The Associated Press 3/21/2004, 3:55 p.m. ET READING, Pa. (AP) â€" Environmental and government groups have a message for gardeners: Go native. Nonnative plants in a back yard or flower bed may look lovely, like purple loosestrife, or smell divine, like the honeysuckle vine, but they can choke out wildflowers and other plants that are native to the area, said Susan Munch, an Albright College associate biology professor. "These are very aggressive plants. They grow very fast, put up leaves very early in spring and grow so close together there's no room for others to grow," Munch told about 30 people at a workshop organized by the Pike Oley District Preservation Coalition. Some of the infiltrating plants came as seeds accidentally stowed in cargo in ships arriving from Europe or attached to the fur of imported animals. In other cases, conservancy and government groups intentionally developed and planted the invasive species, Munch said. For example, state and federal transportation departments planted the crown vetch to hold soil along roads. The plan worked, but the invasive plant quickly spread into surrounding woods, Munch said. "The government wasn't well educated until very recently," she said. Munch said the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources now is working to educate people. Awareness of invasive plants is crucial to keep gardeners from unintentionally spreading the problem by sowing the seeds of invasive plants, said Phoebe L. Hopkins, a member of Pike Oley group. "Lots of times you order these things unknowingly" because plant catalogs don't always identify plants as nonnative, Hopkins said. Exeter Township resident Jim F. Houston said he recognized many of the plants Munch described because he has been battling them in his own back yard. Oriental bittersweet has been pulling down his trees and purple loosestrife has been cropping up everywhere, he said. ----------------- Butterfly Bush labeled an invasive: http://www.invasive.org/eastern/midatlantic/budd.html http://www.lebanon-express.com/artic...ine/news13.txt http://www2.kval.com/x30530.xml?Pare...44478&Lay out =kval.xsl&AdGroupID=x30530 Yet it is being promoted like Mad: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...uy+butterfly+b ush&btnG=Google+Search http://springhillnursery.com/search....+bush&x=12&y=3 Unfortunately, the webpages describing butterfly bush as an invasive species contradict each other. The Lebanon Express webpage states that some butterfly bush cultivars do not appear to be invasive. These noninvasive cultivars should be identified so gardeners have safe choices. The native substitutes for butterfly bush are not all good replacements. Why would that be? Take the Monarch Butterfly.. The larve fees on Milkweed! I don't see that planted much!`Fennel is fed on by Swallowtail larvae! as is Queen Anne's Lace! Lupines, Milk Vetch, Willows and Aspens host the larvae of many species! Butterfly weed is a short herbaceous perennial so is hardly a substitute for a tall shrub like butterfly bush. Butterfly weed? Elderberry, Penstemon, Black-eyed susan, Daisies, Sunflowers, Bee Balm, Goldenrod, Asters, Yarrow, Spirea and on and on provide nectar for adult butterlfies! You just have to know your plants the the Butterfly! In many areas in the Eastern U.S. deer overpopulation probably causes more damage to native vegetation than invasive plants. http://pa.audubon.org/Deerfactsheetrev1.htm As does over grazing! You can go to the April/May issude of National Wildlife Magazine - The national one and read the article by Janet Raloff entitled "When Good Plants Go Bad" (As well as look at a Picture of how Kudzu has overgrown an area! She talks of about 35 Liriope muscari plants they planted in 1985, which behaved until four years ago. After that invasive clumps of the plants spread all over the place. There were hundreds of the clumps! Some 50 from the original border! The the article mentions Ficus microcarpa which.like a lot of imported figs grew quite well with no invasive tendances! Then its only polinatir arrived 20 years ago and it became an instant invasive threat! Ailanthus altissima was imported 200 hundred years ago and became invasive. It secretes ailabthone from its roots which inhibits the germination of other seeds! And in the West Invasive Tamarisk, clogs waterways and slurps up badly needed water: http://nrs.ucdavis.edu/mclaughlin/ta...sk_removal.htm And a lot of work is carried out to remove these invasive plants! I think the problem is much greater than the deer! Unfortunately, government officials don't have the guts to stand up to the many "Bambi-lovers" opposed to thinning the herds. Invasive garden plants are certainly a problem but there doesn't seem be much government leadership on wider use of native plants. It is rather ironic that the U.S. Botanic Gardens and the National Arboretum both feature mainly nonnative plants. One American company is selling memorial trees, yet most are foreign species such as Austrian pine, Japanese maple, ginkgo, Deodara cedar and Chinese dogwood. http://www.thoughtfulexpressionsbyma...146/239005.htm Ironically, even some of the American Forests historic trees are not American species, including Clara Barton kousa dogwood, Harry S. Truman gingko, James Madison's Montpelier English oak and John Bartrum's golden rain tree. What better way to remember John Bartrum as "Father of American Botany" than with a foreign tree species? http://www.historictrees.org/home.asp If federal or state governments wanted to demonstrate leadership in the area of invasive ornamental plants, they would require that all new trees and shrubs used to landscape government properties are U.S. natives. American native plants don't get much respect in the USA, and planting native plants is not widely considered patriotic. Europeans often seem to appreciate American flora more than Americans. The annual Washington D.C. Japanese cherry blossom festival is a good example. An equally spectacular display could be had with American native trees such as dogwoods and redbuds. Well ,you come off as a potential Dealer of Plants! And they have to polical power to rule the roost political! Now I do get as many natives as I can - such as from: Western Native Seed Co: http://westernnativeseed.com And High Country Gardens: http://www.highcountrygardens.com Which is not all Native! And after 500 + Years, complete Native Planting would be rare! But no need to increase the problem! And yea, I would have a problem with a plant such as the ButterFly Bush, whcih you admit is such a robuat grower! = AKA Weed! |
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31-03-2004, 04:07 AM
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Invasive Plants - Butterfly Bush Now one!
(Donald L Ferrt) wrote in message . com...
(David Hershey) wrote in message . com... (Aozotorp) wrote in message ... Yet it is being promoted like mad by the Plant sellers! Problem: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ed...=Searc h+News Local Plants are the best: http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa.../1079902477439 80.xml Headline: Pennsylvania News Environmental and government groups tell gardeners to go native The Associated Press 3/21/2004, 3:55 p.m. ET READING, Pa. (AP) â€" Environmental and government groups have a message for gardeners: Go native. Nonnative plants in a back yard or flower bed may look lovely, like purple loosestrife, or smell divine, like the honeysuckle vine, but they can choke out wildflowers and other plants that are native to the area, said Susan Munch, an Albright College associate biology professor. "These are very aggressive plants. They grow very fast, put up leaves very early in spring and grow so close together there's no room for others to grow," Munch told about 30 people at a workshop organized by the Pike Oley District Preservation Coalition. Some of the infiltrating plants came as seeds accidentally stowed in cargo in ships arriving from Europe or attached to the fur of imported animals. In other cases, conservancy and government groups intentionally developed and planted the invasive species, Munch said. For example, state and federal transportation departments planted the crown vetch to hold soil along roads. The plan worked, but the invasive plant quickly spread into surrounding woods, Munch said. "The government wasn't well educated until very recently," she said. Munch said the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources now is working to educate people. Awareness of invasive plants is crucial to keep gardeners from unintentionally spreading the problem by sowing the seeds of invasive plants, said Phoebe L. Hopkins, a member of Pike Oley group. "Lots of times you order these things unknowingly" because plant catalogs don't always identify plants as nonnative, Hopkins said. Exeter Township resident Jim F. Houston said he recognized many of the plants Munch described because he has been battling them in his own back yard. Oriental bittersweet has been pulling down his trees and purple loosestrife has been cropping up everywhere, he said. ----------------- Butterfly Bush labeled an invasive: http://www.invasive.org/eastern/midatlantic/budd.html http://www.lebanon-express.com/artic...ine/news13.txt http://www2.kval.com/x30530.xml?Pare...44478&Lay out =kval.xsl&AdGroupID=x30530 Yet it is being promoted like Mad: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...uy+butterfly+b ush&btnG=Google+Search http://springhillnursery.com/search....+bush&x=12&y=3 Unfortunately, the webpages describing butterfly bush as an invasive species contradict each other. The Lebanon Express webpage states that some butterfly bush cultivars do not appear to be invasive. These noninvasive cultivars should be identified so gardeners have safe choices. The native substitutes for butterfly bush are not all good replacements. Why would that be? Take the Monarch Butterfly.. The larve fees on Milkweed! I don't see that planted much!`Fennel is fed on by Swallowtail larvae! as is Queen Anne's Lace! Lupines, Milk Vetch, Willows and Aspens host the larvae of many species! Butterfly weed is a short herbaceous perennial so is hardly a substitute for a tall shrub like butterfly bush. Butterfly weed? Elderberry, Penstemon, Black-eyed susan, Daisies, Sunflowers, Bee Balm, Goldenrod, Asters, Yarrow, Spirea and on and on provide nectar for adult butterlfies! You just have to know your plants the the Butterfly! In many areas in the Eastern U.S. deer overpopulation probably causes more damage to native vegetation than invasive plants. http://pa.audubon.org/Deerfactsheetrev1.htm As does over grazing! You can go to the April/May issude of National Wildlife Magazine - The national one and read the article by Janet Raloff entitled "When Good Plants Go Bad" (As well as look at a Picture of how Kudzu has overgrown an area! She talks of about 35 Liriope muscari plants they planted in 1985, which behaved until four years ago. After that invasive clumps of the plants spread all over the place. There were hundreds of the clumps! Some 50 from the original border! The the article mentions Ficus microcarpa which.like a lot of imported figs grew quite well with no invasive tendances! Then its only polinatir arrived 20 years ago and it became an instant invasive threat! Ailanthus altissima was imported 200 hundred years ago and became invasive. It secretes ailabthone from its roots which inhibits the germination of other seeds! And in the West Invasive Tamarisk, clogs waterways and slurps up badly needed water: http://nrs.ucdavis.edu/mclaughlin/ta...sk_removal.htm And a lot of work is carried out to remove these invasive plants! I think the problem is much greater than the deer! Unfortunately, government officials don't have the guts to stand up to the many "Bambi-lovers" opposed to thinning the herds. Invasive garden plants are certainly a problem but there doesn't seem be much government leadership on wider use of native plants. It is rather ironic that the U.S. Botanic Gardens and the National Arboretum both feature mainly nonnative plants. One American company is selling memorial trees, yet most are foreign species such as Austrian pine, Japanese maple, ginkgo, Deodara cedar and Chinese dogwood. http://www.thoughtfulexpressionsbyma...146/239005.htm Ironically, even some of the American Forests historic trees are not American species, including Clara Barton kousa dogwood, Harry S. Truman gingko, James Madison's Montpelier English oak and John Bartrum's golden rain tree. What better way to remember John Bartrum as "Father of American Botany" than with a foreign tree species? http://www.historictrees.org/home.asp If federal or state governments wanted to demonstrate leadership in the area of invasive ornamental plants, they would require that all new trees and shrubs used to landscape government properties are U.S. natives. American native plants don't get much respect in the USA, and planting native plants is not widely considered patriotic. Europeans often seem to appreciate American flora more than Americans. The annual Washington D.C. Japanese cherry blossom festival is a good example. An equally spectacular display could be had with American native trees such as dogwoods and redbuds. Well ,you come off as a potential Dealer of Plants! And they have to polical power to rule the roost political! Now I do get as many natives as I can - such as from: Western Native Seed Co: http://westernnativeseed.com And High Country Gardens: http://www.highcountrygardens.com Which is not all Native! And after 500 + Years, complete Native Planting would be rare! But no need to increase the problem! And yea, I would have a problem with a plant such as the ButterFly Bush, whcih you admit is such a robuat grower! = AKA Weed! Butterfly weed is a native milkweed. Despite the name, it is not really weedy in the sense of being invasive. No, I'm not a "potential Dealer of Plants!" if that makes a difference. Many of the plants on the NPS-endorsed list of invasive plants for the Eastern U.S. are cultivated on federal lands, such as on the mall in Washington D.C. It seems like they are saying "Do as we say and not as we do." http://www.invasive.org/eastern/index.html What should the policy be for arboreta and botanic gardens? Do they have to cut down all their large specimens of Norway maples, princesstrees, Bradford pears, wisterias, etc. because they are now listed as invasives? |
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