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swim learning 02-08-2004 03:41 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Kindly identify the wildflower in these photos. The plant is common in
July in northern New Jersey.

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sha...&.dnm=290e.jpg

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sha...&.dnm=2117.jpg

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sha...&.dnm=70e0.jpg

The photos are also accessible as plant 7 in the Spring Flowers album
at http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim.

Cereus-validus 02-08-2004 04:43 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

If you pull a plant up, you will notice that the roots smell exactly the
same as a carrot.

That's because it's "Wild Carrot", Daucus carota, more popularly known in
this country as "Queen Ann's Lace".

Actually its not a native plant but it was introduced from Europe long ago.


"swim learning" wrote in message
om...
Kindly identify the wildflower in these photos. The plant is common in
July in northern New Jersey.

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sha...&.dnm=290e.jpg

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sha...&.dnm=2117.jpg

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sha...&.dnm=70e0.jpg

The photos are also accessible as plant 7 in the Spring Flowers album
at http://photos.yahoo.com/shahswim.




Iris Cohen 02-08-2004 02:02 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Kindly identify the wildflower in these photos. The plant is common in July
in northern New Jersey.

Queen Anne's lace, Daucus carota. It is the wild ancestor of the carrot. I
believe it is a native of Europe.
In the future, I suggest you look in a field guide to wild flowers first.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Mike Lyle 02-08-2004 05:39 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.

Cereus-validus 02-08-2004 07:38 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant clue to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially since you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.




Chuck 02-08-2004 08:10 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers many of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant clue

to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially since

you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.






Pete 02-08-2004 09:40 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 

Just this morning I was stuck on the ID of a plant in the carrot family,
and the closest I could find was Wild Carrot. But seeing the OP's photos, I
now have doubts. Mostly because of the very hairy stems.

So, what's this one...?

http://www.seanet.com/~pmar/jse_Wild Carrot 1.JPG

Pete

Mike Lyle 02-08-2004 11:41 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message om...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant clue to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially since you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.


Well, since you had identified the plant perfectly adequately, there
would have been no point in repeating the information.

Smell is only one clue, and it's not reliable on its own; I imagine
many blind people would agree. As I said, learners need confirmation
of their diagnoses.

You no doubt take the attitude which suits your purposes; but I'd like
to see more people joining this very slow group rather than being put
off by insults from total strangers.

Mike.

Cereus-validus 03-08-2004 03:33 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Yada, yada, yada.

Get back to us when you grow a brain.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant

clue to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially since

you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.


Well, since you had identified the plant perfectly adequately, there
would have been no point in repeating the information.

Smell is only one clue, and it's not reliable on its own; I imagine
many blind people would agree. As I said, learners need confirmation
of their diagnoses.

You no doubt take the attitude which suits your purposes; but I'd like
to see more people joining this very slow group rather than being put
off by insults from total strangers.

Mike.




Cereus-validus 03-08-2004 03:40 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody here would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to waste my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers many

of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant

clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially since

you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.








swim learning 03-08-2004 02:47 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

If you pull a plant up, you will notice that the roots smell exactly the
same as a carrot.



I am not a native of North America or Europe.

It seems this newsgroup is for serious academics rather than novices
and dabblers like me. Can you suggest another group where I can post
such questions?

I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

It is not obvious to me that I should smell a plant to identify it,
let alone pull out and check the roots. Nevertheless, I think it is a
good idea, and I may do this in the future. However, suppose the plant
is something like poison ivy? Also, most plant smells are not familiar
to me.

Can you recommend one or two basic books for identifying such plants?

Thank you.

Cereus-validus 03-08-2004 03:15 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
There is no way anybody could confuse wild carrot with poison ivy. If you
have ever eaten salad, you would be familiar with the smell of carrots.

There are hundreds of wild flower books.
You can find at least one of them at your local library.

Try the gardening newsgroups.

Identifying plant pictures is much easier than trying to decipher vague
descriptions from newbies.


"swim learning" wrote in message
m...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

If you pull a plant up, you will notice that the roots smell exactly the
same as a carrot.



I am not a native of North America or Europe.

It seems this newsgroup is for serious academics rather than novices
and dabblers like me. Can you suggest another group where I can post
such questions?

I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

It is not obvious to me that I should smell a plant to identify it,
let alone pull out and check the roots. Nevertheless, I think it is a
good idea, and I may do this in the future. However, suppose the plant
is something like poison ivy? Also, most plant smells are not familiar
to me.

Can you recommend one or two basic books for identifying such plants?

Thank you.




P van Rijckevorsel 03-08-2004 04:07 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
swim learning schreef
I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and

consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

+ + +
On the whole it is nice to see pictures of plants on this newsgroup,
especially if the quality is good, so you can continue as you were.

There is nothing whatsoever that you can do that would not cause cereoid to
make ugly comments, except possibly fall on your knees and worship him as
the genius he thinks he is (he probably would be bored even by that soon
enough).
PvR





M. Tiefert 03-08-2004 07:01 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
On 3 Aug 2004 06:47:44 -0700, swim learning wrote:

I am not a native of North America or Europe.


I know how that feels - when I lived abroad for a while, I didn't feel
like I _really_ knew what a plant was unless I learned its name in English
(or Latin).

It seems this newsgroup is for serious academics rather than novices
and dabblers like me.


Nah, it's a public group - if it were private, they probably wouldn't
allow a certain person to post. Some people have fun encouraging him to
show off his unbelievable sense of 'humor'. But I've come to question
whether that may perhaps be rather unkind, in a way.

Can you suggest another group where I can post
such questions?


There are several gardening groups, but no other botany groups that I know
of on Usenet. You might try searching Yahoo groups or searching for
gardening websites that have a forum.

It is not obvious to me that I should smell a plant to identify it,
let alone pull out and check the roots. Nevertheless, I think it is a


But if it turns out to be a 'rare' or 'endangered' plant, it may be
illegal to pull it up in the US.

good idea, and I may do this in the future. However, suppose the plant
is something like poison ivy?


If it is the very first time you've been in contact with poison ivy, it
_might_ not affect you, as the reaction involves the immune system. But if
you don't know what it looks like, you may have already had some contact
with it, so it wouldn't be the very first time.

Can you recommend one or two basic books for identifying such plants?


If you go to a Barnes & Noble or similar bookstore in your area, they
should have a "local interest" section (or something similar). If not, try
the science section. Page through the wildflower field guides to see which
one looks likely to suit you best. For example, some are organized by type
of plant, others by flower color. Nearby state parks or nature preserves
may also have information and/or bookshops.

cheers,

Marj
--
Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/
Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html
In Sunset zone 14-mild

Cmgreenlnd 03-08-2004 07:47 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
If you live in northern New Jersey, I'd suggest making use of the library at
Rutgers (New Brunswick) or Ramopo State College. New York Botanical Garden has
plant identification clinics, or could recommend someone who might assist.
Their mission is education of all levels of botanical experience.

Check with the Torrey Botanical Club for additional information

http://www.torreybotanical.org/

There are several illustrated keys, as well as academic books like Gleason and
Cronquist Manual of Vascular Plants of Northeastern United States and adjacent
Canada. van Nostrand 1963, and successive volumes of M. L. Fernald's revisions
of Gray's Manual of Botany. The illustrations in Gray's Manual are line
drawings that I found quite useful when I was just starting out.

Peter 03-08-2004 07:59 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
As an amateur, I find this group helpful and interesting. I do not think
that you should be put off by the childish bad manners of the odd puffed-up,
self important individual.

Keep asking.



"swim learning" wrote in message
m...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message

om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

If you pull a plant up, you will notice that the roots smell exactly the
same as a carrot.



I am not a native of North America or Europe.

It seems this newsgroup is for serious academics rather than novices
and dabblers like me. Can you suggest another group where I can post
such questions?

I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

It is not obvious to me that I should smell a plant to identify it,
let alone pull out and check the roots. Nevertheless, I think it is a
good idea, and I may do this in the future. However, suppose the plant
is something like poison ivy? Also, most plant smells are not familiar
to me.

Can you recommend one or two basic books for identifying such plants?

Thank you.




Peter 03-08-2004 08:21 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Sorry - the URL produces only your business site

"Pete" wrote in message
...

Just this morning I was stuck on the ID of a plant in the carrot family,
and the closest I could find was Wild Carrot. But seeing the OP's photos,

I
now have doubts. Mostly because of the very hairy stems.

So, what's this one...?

http://www.seanet.com/~pmar/jse_Wild Carrot 1.JPG

Pete




P van Rijckevorsel 03-08-2004 09:02 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Peter schreef
Sorry - the URL produces only your business site


+ + +
Try copy and paste
PvR

or
http://www.seanet.com/~pmar/jse_Wild%20Carrot%201.JPG





Chuck 03-08-2004 09:12 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level. However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be quick and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody here

would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to waste my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers many

of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained

chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant

clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially

since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a

clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.









Pete 03-08-2004 10:11 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:21:40 +0100, Peter wrote:

Sorry - the URL produces only your business site


Thanks for the tip... In future I'll avoid spaces in URLs!

Cereus-validus 04-08-2004 02:57 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy enough to
touch my monkey!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
swim learning schreef
I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and

consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

+ + +
On the whole it is nice to see pictures of plants on this newsgroup,
especially if the quality is good, so you can continue as you were.

There is nothing whatsoever that you can do that would not cause cereoid

to
make ugly comments, except possibly fall on your knees and worship him as
the genius he thinks he is (he probably would be bored even by that soon
enough).
PvR







Cereus-validus 04-08-2004 03:01 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
I would tell you to bite me but I don't want to take the shots for rabies.


"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level. However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you

could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be quick

and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody here

would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to waste

my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany

class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers

many
of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained

chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant

clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially

since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a

clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot

family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand, and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.











Chuck 04-08-2004 03:49 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
ONLY IF YOU WERE A REUBEN SANDWICH AND I WERE TRULY HUNGRY. SINCE NEITHER
IS TRUE THEN I THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO BITE YOURSELF. ENJOY!

AND, I'M SORRY TO HEAR YOU"VE BEEN MESSING WITH THOSE RACCOONS AGAIN. .

Chuck


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I would tell you to bite me but I don't want to take the shots for rabies.


"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level.

However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you

could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be quick

and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody here

would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to waste

my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany

class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one considers

many
of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran

moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a trained

chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very

hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a

blatant
clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all. Especially

since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant

yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks a

clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot

family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand,

and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.













Chuck 04-08-2004 03:52 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Besides, You'd prefer touching it yourself, wouldn't you.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy enough

to
touch my monkey!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
swim learning schreef
I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and

consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

+ + +
On the whole it is nice to see pictures of plants on this newsgroup,
especially if the quality is good, so you can continue as you were.

There is nothing whatsoever that you can do that would not cause cereoid

to
make ugly comments, except possibly fall on your knees and worship him

as
the genius he thinks he is (he probably would be bored even by that soon
enough).
PvR









Cereus-validus 04-08-2004 04:14 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
You are still unworthy to touch my monkey!!!


"Chuck" wrote in message
nk.net...
Besides, You'd prefer touching it yourself, wouldn't you.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy

enough
to
touch my monkey!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
swim learning schreef
I believe that some others may find the pictures of interest and
consider identifying other's photos as an interesting puzzle. I would
like to see such posts from others.

+ + +
On the whole it is nice to see pictures of plants on this newsgroup,
especially if the quality is good, so you can continue as you were.

There is nothing whatsoever that you can do that would not cause

cereoid
to
make ugly comments, except possibly fall on your knees and worship him

as
the genius he thinks he is (he probably would be bored even by that

soon
enough).
PvR











Cereus-validus 04-08-2004 04:16 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
You are not allowed to play with spank the monkey.

You might give him monkey pox!!!!


"Chuck" wrote in message
nk.net...
ONLY IF YOU WERE A REUBEN SANDWICH AND I WERE TRULY HUNGRY. SINCE NEITHER
IS TRUE THEN I THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO BITE YOURSELF. ENJOY!

AND, I'M SORRY TO HEAR YOU"VE BEEN MESSING WITH THOSE RACCOONS AGAIN. .

Chuck


"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I would tell you to bite me but I don't want to take the shots for

rabies.


"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
hey definitly would, used to teach one on the University level.

However,
since you already know almost everything about everything, I guess you

could
look up all of what you don't know in one small book. It would be

quick
and
easy for you. Sort of like all all your retorts.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
I have never asked any questions in this little newsgroup. Nobody

here
would
know the answers.

I have far better, more accurate sources of information, than to

waste
my
time using public opinion as a source.

I actually go to research libraries and look things up in the

original
sources in books and periodicals. You should try it. You might learn
something.

If someone needs hand holding, they should take an intro to botany

class.

"Chuck" wrote in message
ink.net...
My God you are so critical of others, especially when one

considers
many
of
the "erudite" questions from you. Con boca cerrado no entran

moscos.

Chuck

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
m...
Wake up, Mikey, and don't be such a gimp.

There are so many wild flower books out there that even a

trained
chimp
could easily identify such a common plant without trying very

hard.

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a

blatant
clue
to
its identity even to a blind man.

So your wussy excuses have absolutely no merit at all.

Especially
since
you
made absolutely no effort in trying to identify the plant

yourself.


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
om...
"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
om...
Shame on you for not knowing this very common plant.

Oh, come on! That's no way to treat a willing learner who asks

a
clear
question and provides good photographic evidence. The carrot

family
can be tricky for a beginner, even with a field guide in hand,

and
people need confirmation along the way.

Mike.















P van Rijckevorsel 04-08-2004 09:54 AM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Why is it no surprise that you show unusual cruelty not only to fellow
posters, but to a monkey as well?
PvR

Cereus-validus schreef
No matter how much you grovel, Rinkytink, you are still not worthy enough

to touch my monkey!!!






Pete 12-08-2004 02:53 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
On 3 Aug 2004 06:47:44 -0700, swim learning wrote:

It seems this newsgroup is for serious academics rather than novices
and dabblers like me. Can you suggest another group where I can post
such questions?


The Name That Plant forum at GardenWeb is much more active and useful than
this group, IMHO...

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/namegal/

P van Rijckevorsel 12-08-2004 04:54 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Pete schreef
The Name That Plant forum at GardenWeb is much more active and useful than
this group, IMHO...


http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/namegal/


* * *
Indeed it looks to be more active, with a high pictorial content.
It does not suffer the disadvantages of Usenet (probably moderated?), so the
tone is a lot more positive.
PvR



Cmgreenlnd 13-08-2004 01:32 PM

White wildflower in northern NJ
 
Dear Pete --

Thanks for the reference. It is much more useful than usenet.

Bye.


JPB 05-09-2004 01:30 AM

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:38:19 +0200, Cereus-validus wrote
(in article ):

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant clue to
its identity even to a blind man.



Well.. if you live in central europe, you will find a lot of plants like this
(Umbelliferae, Apiaceae). I have - even with a book - sometimes big
difficulties to really identify them. And - a plant looking simular (though
not in size) is Heracleum spondylium and Heracleum mantegazzianum - and the
latter one is quite poisonous to the skin (Bergapten, Pimpinellin,
Xanthotoxin). Also simular a Aegopodium podagraria, Aethusa cynapium ssp.
cynapium, Angelica archangelica ssp. litoralis, Angelica sylvestris,
Athamantha cretensis, Carum carvi.
So yes, a wild carrot is common, but not always easy to identify - for
"normal" folks like me. ;)

just my 2 euro-cents :)

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Cereus-validus 05-09-2004 07:16 AM

Thank your lucky stars for coming out of your coma long enough to post some
irrelevant trivia for a long dead thread.

Everyone else has moved on to other things long ago.

We weren't talking about unusual European Apiaceae, we were talking about
Daucus carota growing in New Jersey.

That's odd, you don't come across as "normal folk" at all.


"JPB" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:38:19 +0200, Cereus-validus wrote
(in article ):

The very fact that the plant smells like a carrot would be a blatant

clue to
its identity even to a blind man.



Well.. if you live in central europe, you will find a lot of plants like

this
(Umbelliferae, Apiaceae). I have - even with a book - sometimes big
difficulties to really identify them. And - a plant looking simular

(though
not in size) is Heracleum spondylium and Heracleum mantegazzianum - and

the
latter one is quite poisonous to the skin (Bergapten, Pimpinellin,
Xanthotoxin). Also simular a Aegopodium podagraria, Aethusa cynapium

ssp.
cynapium, Angelica archangelica ssp. litoralis, Angelica sylvestris,
Athamantha cretensis, Carum carvi.
So yes, a wild carrot is common, but not always easy to identify - for
"normal" folks like me. ;)

just my 2 euro-cents :)

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http://www.asar.com/cgi-bin/product....hogwasher.html
================================================== ==============




Zeitkind 05-09-2004 12:33 PM

Cereus-validus wrote:
Thank your lucky stars for coming out of your coma long enough to post some
irrelevant trivia for a long dead thread.


I read this thread inadvertanly while moving to another newsserver.
Irrelevant is a weired word concerning plants, but I already learned
here that you tend to be.. erm.. funny. ^^

Everyone else has moved on to other things long ago.


This newsgroup isn't *that* big to get lost in threads. If you do, you
should get yourself a bigger CRT.. ;)


We weren't talking about unusual European Apiaceae, we were talking about
Daucus carota growing in New Jersey.


You were talking about Apiaceae. In europe are the others also very
common, you find them everywhere.

In my garden, I see a lot of plants coming from around the world, they
got here without my doing. last month I made jam from mahony, which is
now growing everywhere. I would not be surprised if the same is over
there in the New Colonies. Heracleum mantegazzianum became a plague in
central europe now, many other foreign plants too - in my garden it was
eg. vigina creeper and, which is a really beast from hell: Oxalis
corniculata
(http://nafoku.de/flora/oxalidaceae/p...-330x440-d.jpg). This
Oxalis spread over all gardens and areas here the last few years and
destroys lawns and it is almost impossible to get rid of. If you like to
get killed by my ma, just say the words "red oxalis".. ;) Anyone knows
what to do against this beast? The worst plantaginetea I ever had.

That's odd, you don't come across as "normal folk" at all.


I don't feel any special, do I?

Cereus-validus 05-09-2004 05:29 PM

"weired" is a weird word!!!

Yada, Yada, Yada.

You sure are long winded for someone desperately trying to resurrect long
dead topics.

Try doing a Google search.

Don't worry you have proven yourself to be a special case, almost as special
as Archie!!!

BTW, they are called monitors now, not CRTs.
You have been in a coma!!!


"Zeitkind" wrote in message
...
Cereus-validus wrote:
Thank your lucky stars for coming out of your coma long enough to post

some
irrelevant trivia for a long dead thread.


I read this thread inadvertanly while moving to another newsserver.
Irrelevant is a weired word concerning plants, but I already learned
here that you tend to be.. erm.. funny. ^^

Everyone else has moved on to other things long ago.


This newsgroup isn't *that* big to get lost in threads. If you do, you
should get yourself a bigger CRT.. ;)


We weren't talking about unusual European Apiaceae, we were talking

about
Daucus carota growing in New Jersey.


You were talking about Apiaceae. In europe are the others also very
common, you find them everywhere.

In my garden, I see a lot of plants coming from around the world, they
got here without my doing. last month I made jam from mahony, which is
now growing everywhere. I would not be surprised if the same is over
there in the New Colonies. Heracleum mantegazzianum became a plague in
central europe now, many other foreign plants too - in my garden it was
eg. vigina creeper and, which is a really beast from hell: Oxalis
corniculata
(http://nafoku.de/flora/oxalidaceae/p...-330x440-d.jpg). This
Oxalis spread over all gardens and areas here the last few years and
destroys lawns and it is almost impossible to get rid of. If you like to
get killed by my ma, just say the words "red oxalis".. ;) Anyone knows
what to do against this beast? The worst plantaginetea I ever had.

That's odd, you don't come across as "normal folk" at all.


I don't feel any special, do I?




P van Rijckevorsel 05-09-2004 05:52 PM

A word of advice:
just put "Cereus-validus " in your killfile
and your life will be brighter for it
PvR




Zeitkind 05-09-2004 07:33 PM

P van Rijckevorsel wrote:

A word of advice:
just put "Cereus-validus " in your killfile
and your life will be brighter for it


I'm used to those strange entities from other groups.. But English isn't
my native language, so I won't try to try it.. ;)


But could you both please try to answer my other question? :D

Hint: Another "older" thread called "searching for a plant".. :)

Cereus-validus 05-09-2004 09:28 PM

Since you don't get Seinfeld out in the back woods of lower Leutonia where
you live in that mud hut of yours, the joke is completely lost on you,
Rinkytink.

It must be really rough on you being such a superior intellect living in
such third world conditions. You should look forward to a peasant uprising
some night complete with flaming torches and rowdy mob, Herr Dokterstein!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
...
A word of advice:
just put "Cereus-validus " in your killfile
and your life will be brighter for it
PvR






Cereus-validus 05-09-2004 09:31 PM

You better think twice before taking advice from Herr Dokter Rinkytink.
Human isn't his native race and he is not to be trusted with giving factual
info.


"Zeitkind" wrote in message
...
P van Rijckevorsel wrote:

A word of advice:
just put "Cereus-validus " in your

killfile
and your life will be brighter for it


I'm used to those strange entities from other groups.. But English isn't
my native language, so I won't try to try it.. ;)


But could you both please try to answer my other question? :D

Hint: Another "older" thread called "searching for a plant".. :)




Iris Cohen 06-09-2004 03:38 AM

This Oxalis spread over all gardens and areas here the last few years and
destroys lawns and it is almost impossible to get rid of.

Interesting. If you mean that little one with yellow flowers (I always forget
the species name), it is a pest here too, but we have worse ones in the lawn.
Queen Anne's lace isn't really a noxious weed in gardens here. It is very
common on roadsides & other waste places.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

Zeitkind 06-09-2004 12:04 PM

Iris Cohen wrote:

Interesting. If you mean that little one with yellow flowers


Noone I asked can remember seeing this oxalis here before (eg. my
grandma). It spread the last, let's say 10 years across all gardens and
places. If you don't fight it, your lawn will be ripped off to pieces.
But it also spreads in borders and other places, esp. along roads and
places typical for other plants here. The leafs are always quite red and
roots are up to 15cm. It is highly competitive against ivy (hedera
helix), plantains and dandelion (taraxacum officinalis). I saw the first
on in my garden several years ago. It was nice looking and had those
tiny little yellow blossoms....... well.. if I knew... *sigh*


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