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Old 22-09-2004, 02:09 PM
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Welwitschia is indeed a tree in the botanical sense of the word. Have you
ever seen one in your reality?
They don't grow wild in Toronto.

However, the last time I was in the Royal Botanical Garden in Hamilton, which
is on the way to Toronto, they had one. They even had an olive tree.
As I mentioned before, the reason Welwitschia doesn't look like a tree is that
much of its trunk is underground. It is a member of the order Gnetales, which
may be changed to a subdivision. It is related to Gnetum & Ephedra. They are
peculiar plants somewhere between the angiosperms and gymnosperms, but closer
to the conifers.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
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Old 22-09-2004, 03:18 PM
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Iris Cohen schreef
However, the last time I was in the Royal Botanical Garden in Hamilton,

which is on the way to Toronto, they had one. They even had an olive tree.

* * *
Yes, olive trees are trees.

* * *

As I mentioned before, the reason Welwitschia doesn't look like a tree is

that much of its trunk is underground.

* * *
That might sound better if it actually had a trunk

* * *

It is a member of the order Gnetales, which may be changed to a

subdivision.

* * *
Gnetales by definition is an order (ending -ales).
The rank of a taxon with only three genera does not seem a very interesting
topic.

***
It is related to Gnetum & Ephedra. They are peculiar plants somewhere
between the angiosperms and gymnosperms, but closer to the conifers.

* * *

No. Welwitschia, Ephedra and Gnetum are Gymnosperms. Have been just about
forever. Conifers are another group of Gymnosperms.
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Old 22-09-2004, 03:30 PM
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So that means Rinkytink must be a nut!!!!


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
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Iris Cohen schreef
However, the last time I was in the Royal Botanical Garden in Hamilton,

which is on the way to Toronto, they had one. They even had an olive tree.

* * *
Yes, olive trees are trees.

* * *

As I mentioned before, the reason Welwitschia doesn't look like a tree

is
that much of its trunk is underground.

* * *
That might sound better if it actually had a trunk

* * *

It is a member of the order Gnetales, which may be changed to a

subdivision.

* * *
Gnetales by definition is an order (ending -ales).
The rank of a taxon with only three genera does not seem a very

interesting
topic.

***
It is related to Gnetum & Ephedra. They are peculiar plants somewhere
between the angiosperms and gymnosperms, but closer to the conifers.

* * *

No. Welwitschia, Ephedra and Gnetum are Gymnosperms. Have been just about
forever. Conifers are another group of Gymnosperms.
PvR






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Affinities of other living Gnetales to Welwitschia do not help understand
the genus at all because they too are highly specialized in their mode of
growth. Ephedra are coralliform shrubs while Gnetum are woody lianas.

Welwitschia has a single woody stem arising from a deep taproot. The
flowering crown is raised well above the ground level on a woody trunk. It
most definitely is a tree.


"Iris Cohen" wrote in message
...
Welwitschia is indeed a tree in the botanical sense of the word. Have

you
ever seen one in your reality?
They don't grow wild in Toronto.

However, the last time I was in the Royal Botanical Garden in Hamilton,

which
is on the way to Toronto, they had one. They even had an olive tree.
As I mentioned before, the reason Welwitschia doesn't look like a tree is

that
much of its trunk is underground. It is a member of the order Gnetales,

which
may be changed to a subdivision. It is related to Gnetum & Ephedra. They

are
peculiar plants somewhere between the angiosperms and gymnosperms, but

closer
to the conifers.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)



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Old 22-09-2004, 04:58 PM
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Cereus-validus schreef
Welwitschia has a single woody stem arising from a deep taproot. The

flowering crown is raised well above the ground level on a woody trunk. It
most definitely is a tree.

*****
To somebody who never gets beyond reading comic books, sure.
PvR






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Old 22-09-2004, 07:50 PM
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Seems you are once again in full troll mood, Rinkytink.

What's the matter? Did your pet rat die?

No matter what you say, up isn't down and black isn't white.


"P van Rijckevorsel" wrote in message
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Cereus-validus schreef
Welwitschia has a single woody stem arising from a deep taproot. The

flowering crown is raised well above the ground level on a woody trunk. It
most definitely is a tree.

*****
To somebody who never gets beyond reading comic books, sure.
PvR






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