Man wins over beast!
 

I was lucky today, and our "Bob" just happened to be far enough away out of
the pond for me to drop him into a large plastic trash can,. and dump him in
the nearest large lake.

While his head was pinky sized, I'd say his length was 16 inches or so.

So now the wife (and any fry) can breathe a sigh of relief, until the next
Bob shows up.


--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:14:44 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

I was lucky today, and our "Bob" just happened to be far enough away out of
the pond for me to drop him into a large plastic trash can,. and dump him in
the nearest large lake.

While his head was pinky sized, I'd say his length was 16 inches or so.

So now the wife (and any fry) can breathe a sigh of relief, until the next
Bob shows up.

I haven't seen my Bob in over a month. The pond, or rather what's
left of it, (we still have had no rain to speak of -- less than 1/10
of an inch this month) seems to be a happier place, with carefree
frogs lounging about and tadpoles swimming around as though they
hadn't a care in the world. If Bob shows up again he may be "invited"
to leave.
--
Galen Hekhuis
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"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message

I haven't seen my Bob in over a month. The pond, or rather what's
left of it, (we still have had no rain to speak of -- less than 1/10
of an inch this month) seems to be a happier place, with carefree
frogs lounging about and tadpoles swimming around as though they
hadn't a care in the world. If Bob shows up again he may be "invited"
to leave.

We've still had very little rain here as well.. had a nice shower yesterday
for about 4 hours, to that helped. After the harsh last cold snap did a lot
of damage to plants and trees around (killing off my damned Japanese maple!)
the lack of rain is still effecting everything.. my hostas are easily 1/2
the size they were last year, and my raspberries are barely clinging onto
life.

I'd say a lot of plant grow is 3-4 week behind their usual timetable,
because of this.

I've yet to get a tomato from the garden yet.. just strawberries, asparagus,
and snap peas.

I don't think there are even any baby pumpkins growing yet either. And I've
seen no oyster mushrooms at all, because of the drought.

--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Man wins over beast!
 

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:16:58 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

We've still had very little rain here as well.. had a nice shower yesterday
for about 4 hours, to that helped. After the harsh last cold snap did a lot
of damage to plants and trees around (killing off my damned Japanese maple!)
the lack of rain is still effecting everything.. my hostas are easily 1/2
the size they were last year, and my raspberries are barely clinging onto
life.

I moved north from the west side of Florida (about 90 mi north of
Tampa) up to where I am now by the intersection of I-75 and I-10, in
beautiful, historic, northern Florida. I moved from a scrub oak kind
of arid geography into a much wetter area by the Suwannee River, but
it sure hasn't been wetter this year at all. I watch the radar, and
even what little rain there is seems to consistently miss our little
corner of the county.

I'd say a lot of plant grow is 3-4 week behind their usual timetable,
because of this.

I've yet to get a tomato from the garden yet.. just strawberries, asparagus,
and snap peas.

There's a tomato farm I pass on the way to town that they just gave up
on.

I don't think there are even any baby pumpkins growing yet either. And I've
seen no oyster mushrooms at all, because of the drought.

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Galen Hekhuis wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:16:58 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

We've still had very little rain here as well.. had a nice shower
yesterday for about 4 hours, to that helped. After the harsh last cold
snap did a lot of damage to plants and trees around (killing off my damned
Japanese maple!)

How cold was that? They survive our winters in Nova Scotia.

I moved north from the west side of Florida (about 90 mi north of
Tampa) up to where I am now by the intersection of I-75 and I-10, in
beautiful, historic, northern Florida. I moved from a scrub oak kind
of arid geography into a much wetter area by the Suwannee River, but
it sure hasn't been wetter this year at all. I watch the radar, and
even what little rain there is seems to consistently miss our little
corner of the county.

You can have some of ours. I live off-grid, and had to start up the
generator again tonight. I need sun!!!!

I'd say a lot of plant grow is 3-4 week behind their usual timetable,
because of this.

I've yet to get a tomato from the garden yet.. just strawberries,
asparagus, and snap peas.

Hear that sound?? It's thousands of tiny little violins :-) (well, it might
actually be the locusts...). Up here, even with the greenhouse, it's
August before we get tomatoes. My asparagus has just finished (though
that's because we went away for a week and it bolted - if we'd kept up with
it, it would still be pickable).
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

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"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
We've still had very little rain here as well.. had a nice shower
yesterday for about 4 hours, to that helped. After the harsh last cold
snap did a lot of damage to plants and trees around (killing off my
damned
Japanese maple!)

How cold was that? They survive our winters in Nova Scotia.

I forget honestly, bu tit was late april, and many plants were already
trying to take off. We see dead branches on a lot of local trees and stuff
in our yard that were doing great the year before.. and it wasn;t one
freeze, it was two, about 2 weeks apart in april. The first one killed off
all the leaves that were budding off a lot of trees, and then they tried to
come back, with 2 weeks of 70 degree weather, and then the second freeze
nailed all that new regrowth.

Hear that sound?? It's thousands of tiny little violins :-) (well, it
might
actually be the locusts...). Up here, even with the greenhouse, it's
August before we get tomatoes. My asparagus has just finished (though
that's because we went away for a week and it bolted - if we'd kept up
with
it, it would still be pickable).

I read if you keep cutting back asparagus, that you'l keep getting edible
shoots all season long.

It's been working on our 1 3 year plant here, but we have a bunch of 1 year
plants that are still too young to harvest from.

--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

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Hi all..

I was lucky today, and our "Bob" just happened to be far
enough away out of the pond for me to drop him into a
large plastic trash can,. and dump him in the nearest
large lake.
I haven't seen my Bob in over a month.

Sorry but what's exactly a Bob..?

Thanks..!
--
cu
Marco, capable of learning..

Man wins over beast!
 

A Bob is a water snake of indeterminate heritage, breeding and family
name.

k :-)

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On Jul 14, 10:04 am, Marco Schwarz wrote:
Hi all..

I was lucky today, and our "Bob" just happened to be far
enough away out of the pond for me to drop him into a
large plastic trash can,. and dump him in the nearest
large lake.
I haven't seen my Bob in over a month.

Sorry but what's exactly a Bob..?

Thanks..!
--
cu
Marco, capable of learning..

I am wondering who or what "Bob" is, too.
Deb

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:04:19 CST, Marco Schwarz
wrote:

Hi all..

I was lucky today, and our "Bob" just happened to be far
enough away out of the pond for me to drop him into a
large plastic trash can,. and dump him in the nearest
large lake.
I haven't seen my Bob in over a month.

Sorry but what's exactly a Bob..?

Thanks..!

My Bob was a 4 1/2 foot Florida water snake.
--
Galen Hekhuis
Hell hath no fury like a bird in the hand

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"Marco Schwarz" wrote in message
...
Hi all..

I was lucky today, and our "Bob" just happened to be far
enough away out of the pond for me to drop him into a
large plastic trash can,. and dump him in the nearest
large lake.
I haven't seen my Bob in over a month.

Sorry but what's exactly a Bob..?

First rule of Porg.. we don't talk about Porg!

You WILL be assimilated!

--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Man wins over beast!
 

Hi..

My Bob was a 4 1/2 foot Florida water snake.

Thanks Galen..!
--
cu
Marco

Man wins over beast!
 

Hi..

A Bob is a water snake of indeterminate heritage, breeding
and family name.

Wow.., a scientific definition of Bob..! Thanks.. :-)

--
cu
Marco

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Hi..

First rule of Porg.. we don't talk about Porg!

Porg: Justin's 36b..

[...you WILL be Pond-Elated!...]
You WILL be assimilated!

You're no Borg, the real Borg are used to speak a technical
but monotone German. Saw them many times on TV - I
swear..! ;-)
--
cu
Marco

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Ha! We are more diabolical than the hapless Borg.
They depend on machinery and fly around in
their silly spaceships!
They need to come down to pond level and then
we will see who rules around here!
The Porg know the secrets of the Deadly Algae.
The Porg have Hit Herons at our disposal.
The Porg know the dangers of Lawns.
The Porg have Armies of Bobs in waiting.
The Borg will be assimilated to Pondom.
It is just a matter of time.
You have been warned.

k - Porg in charge of Critters

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:09:07 CST, Marco Schwarz
wrote:

Porg: Justin's 36b..

[...you WILL be Pond-Elated!...]
You WILL be assimilated!

Justin!!!? I hope he didn't steal my lines and pass them off as his own:

The Borg said:
"We are _Borg_ resistant is futile, you will be assimilated."
The Porg say:
"We are Porg, resistant IS futile, you will be pond-elated."

P - Pond, O - Oriented, R - Recreational, G - Group ~ jan

---------------
~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Parrot's Feather
 

Ok, this stuff is supposed to grow fast.. so if I take a clipping off it,
and toss it in a large tub, it'll still grow?

Thinking of growing a few more offshoots...


--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Man wins over beast!
 

Hi..

Justin!!!? I hope he didn't steal my lines and pass them
off as his own:

Hmm.., typed porg and rec ponds into my browser's search
interface and got:

http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html#36

36b is about the Porg but it's not listed in the linked
table of content so please scroll and scroll and scroll
down - or click link 36 (36b will follow directly)..

BTW: a 36b without a 36a - I'm shocked..! ;-)

--
cu
Marco

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:41:52 CST, Marco Schwarz
wrote:

Hi..

Justin!!!? I hope he didn't steal my lines and pass them
off as his own:

Hmm.., typed porg and rec ponds into my browser's search
interface and got:

http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html#36

I'm shocked..! ;-)

As am I! I've been plagiarized! harrumpt! ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

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On Jul 16, 12:59 am, ~ jan wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:41:52 CST, Marco Schwarz
wrote:

Hi..

Justin!!!? I hope he didn't steal my lines and pass them
off as his own:

Hmm.., typed porg and rec ponds into my browser's search
interface and got:

http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html#36
I'm shocked..! ;-)

As am I! I've been plagiarized! harrumpt! ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds:www.jjspond.us

Ok - here is a "Bob" question. How did he get in your pond and now
that you have sent him to a "better place", how could another of his
kind get into your pond? You must have a connection to some waterway
or inlet.
Deb :-)

Man wins over beast!
 

"k" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ha! We are more diabolical than the hapless Borg.
They depend on machinery and fly around in
their silly spaceships!
They need to come down to pond level and then
we will see who rules around here!
The Porg know the secrets of the Deadly Algae.
The Porg have Hit Herons at our disposal.
The Porg know the dangers of Lawns.
The Porg have Armies of Bobs in waiting.
The Borg will be assimilated to Pondom.
It is just a matter of time.
You have been warned.

k - Porg in charge of Critters

Kathy, you forgot the PORG bullfrog

peter

Man wins over beast!
 

you forgot the PORG bullfrog

Gracious! Especially the German Shepherd
sized Bullfrog!

k :-)

Man wins over beast!
 

2pods wrote:

"k" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ha! We are more diabolical than the hapless Borg.
They depend on machinery and fly around in
their silly spaceships!
They need to come down to pond level and then
we will see who rules around here!
The Porg know the secrets of the Deadly Algae.
The Porg have Hit Herons at our disposal.
The Porg know the dangers of Lawns.
The Porg have Armies of Bobs in waiting.
The Borg will be assimilated to Pondom.
It is just a matter of time.
You have been warned.

k - Porg in charge of Critters

Kathy, you forgot the PORG bullfrog

I've been waiting for that. A herp expert pointed out to us that if
Bullfrogs were the size of a German Shepherd they would have wiped out all
life on the planet. I was listening to a CBC radio piece about Bullfrogs
in British Columbia where a woman told the story of a frog actually
catching her kitten. Kitten survived, but I bet she never goes near the
pond anymore.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

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thistletoes wrote:

On Jul 16, 12:59 am, ~ jan wrote:

As am I! I've been plagiarized! harrumpt! ~ jan

Justin just posted the rec.ponds FAQ I once maintained - much of which I
borrowed, too - and added some of his own material.

One of these days we should update and repost.

Ok - here is a "Bob" question. How did he get in your pond and now
that you have sent him to a "better place", how could another of his
kind get into your pond? You must have a connection to some waterway
or inlet.

You think? Even frogs can travel great distances on land (Leopard Frogs are
often called "Meadow Frogs" and are found 2km or more from water), so I
don't think it's improbable that Bob just travelled overland.
--
derek
- Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated
moderators.

Parrot's Feather
 

that stuff wont grow for me. but I think one end likes to be tucked
into a bit of dirt.

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:35:46 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

Ok, this stuff is supposed to grow fast.. so if I take a clipping off it,
and toss it in a large tub, it'll still grow?

Thinking of growing a few more offshoots...

Man wins over beast!
 

Galen Hekhuis wrote:
Sorry but what's exactly a Bob..?

Thanks..!

My Bob was a 4 1/2 foot Florida water snake.


Ok, I have to know this: was this groups' habit of naming snakes "Bob"
going on before I joined the group? Or is it something I started (my
wife and kids have been naming all snakes "Bob" for about 3 years now,
the first being a 6' eastern coachwhip).


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Parrot's Feather
 

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:35:46 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

Ok, this stuff is supposed to grow fast.. so if I take a clipping off it,
and toss it in a large tub, it'll still grow?

Thinking of growing a few more offshoots...

Grows better in winter for me. I've a few sprigs in the shade that
seem to be taking off and one that rooted in a pot with another plant,
but when it is growing well every small shoot grows, floating or stuck
in dirt. It doesn't have to be on top to grow. It will grow to the
top on its own if potted and sunk below the waterline.

Regards,

Hal Zone 8 Middle Georgia

Parrot's Feather
 

Here's one thing I found:

"Parrot's Feather has feathery blue-green foliage with a velvety sheen that
creeps across surface of pond. Its stems can grow from 20 to 60 inches long,
and are divided into four to six vivid green segments.
Parrot's Feather's lushly textured foliage helps provide shade for the pond
and fish. It also provides a hiding place and spawning material for the pond
inhabitants.

Because of its capability of establishing itself in wet soil above the
water, Parrot's Feather can be used in waterfall crevices, as well as along
pond edges. Although it may be prone to frost damage, it winters well
beneath the ice in frozen ponds. Zones 4-11."

Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Man wins over beast!
 

"thistletoes" wrote
Ok - here is a "Bob" question. How did he get in your pond and now
that you have sent him to a "better place", how could another of his
kind get into your pond? You must have a connection to some waterway
or inlet.
Deb :-)

There's a slight stream running around my home, (And with the drought it's
all but dried up!), and another could easily revisit us. A house away is a
mountain stream that flows regularly, and the water is always very chilly.
(natural water tempos here are usually 45-60 tops) I'd think that would
discourage reptiles, but who knows?

If another visits, he'll eventually be captured and relocated as well. The
last time we had water snakes was like 2 years ago, so it's not a regularly
often thing.

But for now, fry and small frogs are safe, and more importantly, my wife
isn't bitching at me about it.. LOL! (Neither one of us likes snakes at all,
and we are always concerned about our cats playing with them fearlessly)
--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Parrot's Feather
 

wrote in message
. com...
that stuff wont grow for me. but I think one end likes to be tucked
into a bit of dirt.

Hmmm will it grow outside a pond?

Gonna have to google it...


--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Man wins over beast!
 

"Chris Barnes" wrote

Ok, I have to know this: was this groups' habit of naming snakes "Bob"
going on before I joined the group? Or is it something I started (my
wife and kids have been naming all snakes "Bob" for about 3 years now, the
first being a 6' eastern coachwhip).

It your post was earlier this year, then yeah it's your fault. I adopted it,
since all the regulars knew what I was talking about.

Now you are the stuff of legends.....


--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Man wins over beast!
 

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:35:52 CST, Chris Barnes
wrote:

Ok, I have to know this: was this groups' habit of naming snakes "Bob"
going on before I joined the group? Or is it something I started (my
wife and kids have been naming all snakes "Bob" for about 3 years now,
the first being a 6' eastern coachwhip).

I named my snake "Bob" because I asked the group what I should name
it. I got several suggestions, but "Bob" was short, easy to spell,
and happens to be a word I can say. So Bob it was, but like I've
said, I haven't seen the snake around for a long time. When Bob was
around the whole pond was quiet, but wound up tight like a coiled
spring. Now frogs are sitting around on lily pads, tadpoles are
swimming, bugs are buzzing, the whole place seems much happier and
more relaxed. The whole place seems less tense.

Anyway, if and when Bob returns he might find an entirely different
"welcome" from what he experienced before. I haven't decided exactly
what I'll do, I'm just kind of hoping that I won't have to deal with
such a situation. I live out in the boonies in northern Florida, a
good ten minutes drive from the nearest "town," which, although it is
the county seat, isn't exactly big. I live where most folks would
relocate their snakes *to*. In any event, there would be another
"Bob" to replace the one I relocated, if I were to do so. Netting is
out of the question, the pond is much to large for that. Any
suggestions?
--
Galen Hekhuis
We'll cross that bridge when it rears its ugly head

Parrot's Feather
 

"Hal" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:35:46 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

Ok, this stuff is supposed to grow fast.. so if I take a clipping off it,
and toss it in a large tub, it'll still grow?

Thinking of growing a few more offshoots...

Grows better in winter for me. I've a few sprigs in the shade that
seem to be taking off and one that rooted in a pot with another plant,
but when it is growing well every small shoot grows, floating or stuck
in dirt. It doesn't have to be on top to grow. It will grow to the
top on its own if potted and sunk below the waterline.

Good to know! Thanks!

--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

Man wins over beast!
 

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:20:40 CST, Galen Hekhuis
wrote:

When Bob was around the whole pond was quiet, but wound up tight like a coiled
spring. Now frogs are sitting around on lily pads, tadpoles are
swimming, bugs are buzzing, the whole place seems much happier and
more relaxed. The whole place seems less tense.

I have a similar story. When we started up the new filter on the lily pond,
many of the tadpoles slipped thru the bottom drain into the pre-filter. I
figured this was good, they were safe there. They could climb out when the
time came, can't get sucked into pump, and most of all, away from the fish
I was putting in the pond.

Several days after I put in 3 fantails and 4 wakins, my son informs me that
one of the fantails is in the pre-filter. I net him out and find only 1 or
2 tadpoles. :-( Next day, a few more tadpoles show up so I figure the fish
didn't get them all. Later that same day, fantail is again in the
prefilter, no tadpoles to be seen. So back to the stock tank, no more
chasing tadpoles. The next morning I check the pre-filter to make sure no
one else has taken the ride, and tons of tadpoles and little froglets,
swimming and hanging out. So I think they must have hidden in the muck at
the bottom while that fantail was in there... tense!

I can't find a single taddie in the pond, unless I disturb some of the
thicker SA I was hoping to remove. Guess I'll wait on that. So far the fish
are happy, and no one had turned up missing by flight. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Parrot's Feather
 

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:47:21 CST, "Gareee©"
wrote:

that stuff wont grow for me. but I think one end likes to be tucked
into a bit of dirt.

Hmmm will it grow outside a pond?

Gonna have to google it...

My wife made a pretty cool hanging pot with it one year by plugging
the holes in the pot.

Regards,

Hal

Parrot's Feather
 

Hi..

that stuff wont grow for me.

I'm so sorry! It's one of my favourite indoor and outdoor
plants.. ;-)

but I think one end likes to
be tucked into a bit of dirt.

Yeah.., it's like several other bog plants able to be kept
inside respectively outside (the) water..

--
cu
Marco, original bog plant supporter..

Man wins over beast!
 

Hi..

I'm shocked..! ;-)
As am I! I've been plagiarized! harrumpt! ~ jan

Hm.., today all good things are in danger to be copied..
--
cu
Marco

Man wins over beast!
 

sorry no mongoose "The mongoose cannot legally be brought into the
United States because of its destructive habits."

but a ferret might do....

Man wins over beast!
 

Galen Hekhuis wrote:
Anyway, if and when Bob returns he might find an entirely different
"welcome" from what he experienced before. I haven't decided exactly
what I'll do, I'm just kind of hoping that I won't have to deal with
such a situation. I live out in the boonies in northern Florida, a
good ten minutes drive from the nearest "town," which, although it is
the county seat, isn't exactly big. I live where most folks would
relocate their snakes *to*. In any event, there would be another
"Bob" to replace the one I relocated, if I were to do so. Netting is
out of the question, the pond is much to large for that. Any
suggestions?


Generally speaking, I like having Bobs around. They are certainly
preferable to the other things that would be around if they weren't
(mice, rats, vols, even rabbits & skunks in my garden). But seeing as
how it was a water snake (which tend to eat more fish than rodents), I
can see why you would want it relocated.

If your pond is too large for a net, your only real alternative option
is a BB/pellet gun (an option I personally wouldn't like, but then
again, I like snakes).

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to dissuade snakes you need a Riki Tiki Tavi
... a pet mongoose. Ingrid