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Old 05-02-2006, 12:21 AM posted to rec.ponds
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Everything I have learned in my close to 15 years frequenting nntp
servers has taught me that rule #1 in handling trolls is to ignore
them. Deny them an audience, and they eventually go away. In my
experience, this works in almost every case. They will usually simply
seek another audience, of course.
However, in the 3 or 4 months since I subbed to rec.ponds due to
my budding interest in building a pond in my large back yard and
found this maelstrom of flamebait, I have seen nothing but continual
antagonism and feeding of the troll(s) in this group.
May I ask why? And before replying, recall that I have been
around ng's for a while, and my flameproof suit is heavily upgraded.
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:51 AM posted to rec.ponds
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:21:49 -0800, "Billy"
wrote:

Everything I have learned in my close to 15 years frequenting nntp
servers has taught me that rule #1 in handling trolls is to ignore
them. Deny them an audience, and they eventually go away. In my
experience, this works in almost every case. They will usually simply
seek another audience, of course.
However, in the 3 or 4 months since I subbed to rec.ponds due to
my budding interest in building a pond in my large back yard and
found this maelstrom of flamebait, I have seen nothing but continual
antagonism and feeding of the troll(s) in this group.
May I ask why? And before replying, recall that I have been
around ng's for a while, and my flameproof suit is heavily upgraded.
g



Crossposting is heavy in this group due to participation by members
from religious type groups. Keep your finger on your killfilter
button. Not much else to do. Maybe after another 100 or so kill
files I will be receiving only a few off topic posts.

Larry
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:40 AM posted to rec.ponds
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"Larry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:21:49 -0800, "Billy"
wrote:

Everything I have learned in my close to 15 years frequenting nntp
servers has taught me that rule #1 in handling trolls is to ignore
them. Deny them an audience, and they eventually go away. In my
experience, this works in almost every case. They will usually simply
seek another audience, of course.
However, in the 3 or 4 months since I subbed to rec.ponds due to
my budding interest in building a pond in my large back yard and
found this maelstrom of flamebait, I have seen nothing but continual
antagonism and feeding of the troll(s) in this group.
May I ask why? And before replying, recall that I have been
around ng's for a while, and my flameproof suit is heavily upgraded.
g



Crossposting is heavy in this group due to participation by members
from religious type groups. Keep your finger on your killfilter
button. Not much else to do. Maybe after another 100 or so kill
files I will be receiving only a few off topic posts.

Larry


There is also the problem with trolls impersonating legitimate posters to ad
to the confusion and drive off the legitimate posters. This has been going
on for months. It's clear there are four trolls on this group wanting total
control. If everyone would killfile and completely ignore these people and
the their boorish threads, work around them so to speak, the group can
survive. However, they are allowing the few to ruin the group for many by
giving them total power. They do this by posting infrequently or not at
all.


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Old 05-02-2006, 02:05 AM posted to rec.ponds
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:21:49 -0800, "Billy"
wrote:

Everything I have learned in my close to 15 years frequenting nntp
servers has taught me that rule #1 in handling trolls is to ignore
them. Deny them an audience, and they eventually go away. In my
experience, this works in almost every case. They will usually simply
seek another audience, of course.
However, in the 3 or 4 months since I subbed to rec.ponds due to
my budding interest in building a pond in my large back yard and
found this maelstrom of flamebait, I have seen nothing but continual
antagonism and feeding of the troll(s) in this group.
May I ask why? And before replying, recall that I have been
around ng's for a while, and my flameproof suit is heavily upgraded.
g


Hi Billy,

What I think is happening here, and what appears to be feeding, is just the
trolls talking to themselves at times. There is an ongoing feud, I think,
but with all the nym shifting here's my latest theory: it is one person
with multiple personalities attacking each other, and none of those
personalities will stop the feeding, they can't. We can only hope for
spontaneous combustion. ;o) ~ jan


~ jan/WA
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:33 AM posted to rec.ponds
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"~ jan jjspond" wrote in message
...
What I think is happening here, and what appears to be feeding, is just
the
trolls talking to themselves at times. There is an ongoing feud, I think,
but with all the nym shifting here's my latest theory: it is one person
with multiple personalities attacking each other, and none of those
personalities will stop the feeding, they can't. We can only hope for
spontaneous combustion. ;o) ~ jan

==================
If you would learn to read headers Jan, you would see there are FOUR
different people involved and several using remailers in one form or
another. Here, this may help you. Reading Headers: http://tinyurl.com/amm9s
There is no excuse for ignorance.


Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
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Troll Information:
http://tinyurl.com/9zbh
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o





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Koi-Lo wrote:
"~ jan jjspond" wrote in message
...
What I think is happening here, and what appears to be feeding, is just
the
trolls talking to themselves at times. There is an ongoing feud, I think,
but with all the nym shifting here's my latest theory: it is one person
with multiple personalities attacking each other, and none of those
personalities will stop the feeding, they can't. We can only hope for
spontaneous combustion. ;o) ~ jan

==================
If you would learn to read headers Jan, you would see there are FOUR
different people involved and several using remailers in one form or
another. Here, this may help you. Reading Headers: http://tinyurl.com/amm9s



There is no excuse for ignorance.


Said by the most ignorant human on Usenet.

and the evidence is right he
http://tinyurl.com/99azt
http://tinyurl.com/87ow4
http://tinyurl.com/d6t5m
http://tinyurl.com/aheek
http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z

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Old 05-02-2006, 03:24 AM posted to rec.ponds,alt.free.newsservers,alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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And you yourself have compounded the problem with useless
crossposting. The original trolls are not the problem, it's the
people who rise to the bait.

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Koi-Lo wrote:
"~ jan jjspond" wrote in message
...
What I think is happening here, and what appears to be feeding,
is just
the
trolls talking to themselves at times. There is an ongoing feud,
I think,
but with all the nym shifting here's my latest theory: it is
one person
with multiple personalities attacking each other, and none of
those
personalities will stop the feeding, they can't. We can only
hope for
spontaneous combustion. ;o) ~ jan

==================
If you would learn to read headers Jan, you would see there are
FOUR
different people involved and several using remailers in one form
or
another. Here, this may help you. Reading Headers:
http://tinyurl.com/amm9s



There is no excuse for ignorance.


Said by the most ignorant human on Usenet.

and the evidence is right he
http://tinyurl.com/99azt
http://tinyurl.com/87ow4
http://tinyurl.com/d6t5m
http://tinyurl.com/aheek
http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z



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Old 05-02-2006, 03:30 AM posted to rec.ponds,alt.free.newsservers,alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Pot calling kettle.

"Billy" wrote in message
. ..
And you yourself have compounded the problem with useless crossposting.
The original trolls are not the problem, it's the people who rise to the
bait.

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Koi-Lo wrote:
"~ jan jjspond" wrote in message
...
What I think is happening here, and what appears to be feeding, is
just
the
trolls talking to themselves at times. There is an ongoing feud, I
think,
but with all the nym shifting here's my latest theory: it is one
person
with multiple personalities attacking each other, and none of those
personalities will stop the feeding, they can't. We can only hope for
spontaneous combustion. ;o) ~ jan
==================
If you would learn to read headers Jan, you would see there are FOUR
different people involved and several using remailers in one form or
another. Here, this may help you. Reading Headers:
http://tinyurl.com/amm9s



There is no excuse for ignorance.


Said by the most ignorant human on Usenet.

and the evidence is right he
http://tinyurl.com/99azt
http://tinyurl.com/87ow4
http://tinyurl.com/d6t5m
http://tinyurl.com/aheek
http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z





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