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Filter/pump advise
I am building a pond I estimate there is about 5000 +/- gallons, I have
ordered the liner now I need to look at filtration, I have been looking at fishmate pumps (3500ex) and upflow waterfall biofilters....My setup will be a waterfall on one end with 2 18" spillways with a total rise of about 6.5 feet (3 in pond & 3.5 above grade) the pond is 24 ft long & 8-13 ft wide in an irregular shape. I want to be sure I have enough flow over the falls and enough filtration. I don't expect I will have fish (too many wild birds & critters). Do you think this setup sounds workable or can you come up with a better (cheaper would be good) setup? I have looked at external pumps but they seem a hassle, I can't really afford the extra $$ for a skimmer right now (I would like to go with one later). I am not a total newbie, this is my second pond, my last house had a much smaller 100 gallon + 200 gal & hour waterfall but I am far, far from expert. |
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Hi Bob,
Please take a look at my DIY filtration unit on my website. For 5,000 I'd use two units, which would give you two bottom drains and two skimmers. Last website listed below: Click on *My Filter* and also the *Demon Pond Filter* which shows the parts that connect the barrels together. *My Lily Pond* shows the piping configuration we used to connect bottom drain and skimmer pipe. The actual skimmer pot http://www.fancykoioutlet.com/supply/skimmer_drain.htm could be added later. The most expensive thing about my filter is using open cell foam, but you could always fill them all with window screening the first couple of years till you save up again. Note: the website above shows skimmer pipe thru side, my pipe goes thru the bottom using Greg's Bickal's super cheap pipe boot. http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm ;o) ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:26:50 -0800, "Bob H" wrote: I am building a pond I estimate there is about 5000 +/- gallons, I have ordered the liner now I need to look at filtration, I have been looking at fishmate pumps (3500ex) and upflow waterfall biofilters....My setup will be a waterfall on one end with 2 18" spillways with a total rise of about 6.5 feet (3 in pond & 3.5 above grade) the pond is 24 ft long & 8-13 ft wide in an irregular shape. I want to be sure I have enough flow over the falls and enough filtration. I don't expect I will have fish (too many wild birds & critters). Do you think this setup sounds workable or can you come up with a better (cheaper would be good) setup? I have looked at external pumps but they seem a hassle, I can't really afford the extra $$ for a skimmer right now (I would like to go with one later). I am not a total newbie, this is my second pond, my last house had a much smaller 100 gallon + 200 gal & hour waterfall but I am far, far from expert. |
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thanks for the info, I will check it out...BTW, I am in the Spokane,Wa
area.... "~ jan" wrote in message ... Hi Bob, Please take a look at my DIY filtration unit on my website. For 5,000 I'd use two units, which would give you two bottom drains and two skimmers. Last website listed below: Click on *My Filter* and also the *Demon Pond Filter* which shows the parts that connect the barrels together. *My Lily Pond* shows the piping configuration we used to connect bottom drain and skimmer pipe. The actual skimmer pot http://www.fancykoioutlet.com/supply/skimmer_drain.htm could be added later. The most expensive thing about my filter is using open cell foam, but you could always fill them all with window screening the first couple of years till you save up again. Note: the website above shows skimmer pipe thru side, my pipe goes thru the bottom using Greg's Bickal's super cheap pipe boot. http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm ;o) ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:26:50 -0800, "Bob H" wrote: I am building a pond I estimate there is about 5000 +/- gallons, I have ordered the liner now I need to look at filtration, I have been looking at fishmate pumps (3500ex) and upflow waterfall biofilters....My setup will be a waterfall on one end with 2 18" spillways with a total rise of about 6.5 feet (3 in pond & 3.5 above grade) the pond is 24 ft long & 8-13 ft wide in an irregular shape. I want to be sure I have enough flow over the falls and enough filtration. I don't expect I will have fish (too many wild birds & critters). Do you think this setup sounds workable or can you come up with a better (cheaper would be good) setup? I have looked at external pumps but they seem a hassle, I can't really afford the extra $$ for a skimmer right now (I would like to go with one later). I am not a total newbie, this is my second pond, my last house had a much smaller 100 gallon + 200 gal & hour waterfall but I am far, far from expert. |
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Hi Bob,
Please take a look at my DIY filtration unit on my website. For 5,000 I'd use two units, which would give you two bottom drains and two skimmers. Last website listed below: Click on *My Filter* and also the *Demon Pond Filter* which shows the parts that connect the barrels together. *My Lily Pond* shows the piping configuration we used to connect bottom drain and skimmer pipe. The actual skimmer pot http://www.fancykoioutlet.com/supply/skimmer_drain.htm could be added later. The most expensive thing about my filter is using open cell foam, but you could always fill them all with window screening the first couple of years till you save up again. Note: the website above shows skimmer pipe thru side, my pipe goes thru the bottom using Greg's Bickal's super cheap pipe boot. http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm ;o) ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:26:50 -0800, "Bob H" wrote: I am building a pond I estimate there is about 5000 +/- gallons, I have ordered the liner now I need to look at filtration, I have been looking at fishmate pumps (3500ex) and upflow waterfall biofilters....My setup will be a waterfall on one end with 2 18" spillways with a total rise of about 6.5 feet (3 in pond & 3.5 above grade) the pond is 24 ft long & 8-13 ft wide in an irregular shape. I want to be sure I have enough flow over the falls and enough filtration. I don't expect I will have fish (too many wild birds & critters). Do you think this setup sounds workable or can you come up with a better (cheaper would be good) setup? I have looked at external pumps but they seem a hassle, I can't really afford the extra $$ for a skimmer right now (I would like to go with one later). I am not a total newbie, this is my second pond, my last house had a much smaller 100 gallon + 200 gal & hour waterfall but I am far, far from expert. |
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:25:12 -0800, "Bob H" wrote:
thanks for the info, I will check it out...BTW, I am in the Spokane,Wa area.... There is a great koi & pond club in Spokane! Lots of activities, plus you have several neat pond stores there. Don't tell them I said this, but we have the best pond plant store down here though. You can save 50% per plant by coming to Mac's Garden Ctr. in W.Pasco. Perhaps your garden nurseries are cheaper than the pond stores also? To find info on the Spokane club go to www.pnkca.org under members, it is called Inland Empire Water Garden & Koi Society. ~ jan See my ponds and filter design: http://users.owt.com/jjspond/ ~Keep 'em Wet!~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a To e-mail see website |
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