In article ,
Derek Broughton wrote:
Richard Sexton wrote:

Your plants may grow just swell, but that's not the same as "they
get everything they neeed". You can prove this by fertilizing them
and observing more and more vigorous growth. Until then you're just
guessing, not stating objective fact.

How is "more vigorous growth" an indicator of anything? Gardeners
frequently don't _want_ vegetative growth. Especially with lilies: we want
blooms.

Then maintain an optimal pjhosphate level. All fishfood contains
pjhosphate and fish will excrete that, but if it's not at an optimal
level you won't get optimal blooms.

better than alternatives. Your _opinion_ would seem to be that if you're
not getting the absolute maximum growth out of your plants, you're doing
something wrong.

That is to say if you're stunting your plants you're doing right?

The bigger the root the bigger the bloom.

Your _opinion_ is only "factually correct" under limited conditions - like
no fish in the pond, and you'd rather see lily pads than flowers.

I neevr said this. Ever.

disagreement in this group, but there's no need to come in here and start
telling us you have all the right answers.

Enjoy your Bonsai.


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Richard Sexton wrote:

Enjoy your Bonsai.

To an extent, all gardening is bonsai - you're growing things in restricted
spaces.

In a pond with 225 sq.ft. of surface, I would get _one_ lily covering over
100 sq.ft. of it. It's all the success I can handle.
--
derek

In article ,
Derek Broughton wrote:
Richard Sexton wrote:

Enjoy your Bonsai.

To an extent, all gardening is bonsai - you're growing things in restricted
spaces.

In a pond with 225 sq.ft. of surface, I would get _one_ lily covering over
100 sq.ft. of it. It's all the success I can handle.

Then you have no need or optimal plant growth. But there are people that
are. Your advice is good for you, but people who have problems growing
plants, or growing plants well enough for them may benefit from knowing
how to achieve that.




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Richard Sexton wrote:

In article ,
Derek Broughton wrote:
Richard Sexton wrote:

Enjoy your Bonsai.

To an extent, all gardening is bonsai - you're growing things in
restricted spaces.

In a pond with 225 sq.ft. of surface, I would get _one_ lily covering over
100 sq.ft. of it. It's all the success I can handle.

Then you have no need or optimal plant growth. But there are people that
are. Your advice is good for you, but people who have problems growing
plants, or growing plants well enough for them may benefit from knowing
how to achieve that.

And I've always said that. I still strongly encourage anybody to try
planting lilies bare-root. Sooner or later, in this hobby, you're going to
have to toss a plant in the compost, or at least give it away - so you have
nothing to lose at that point.
--
derek

Derek Broughton wrote:
there's no need to come in here and start
telling us you have all the right answers.

I didn't get that impression. Looked like a lively discussion. No wonder RP
crashes and burns so easily these days. If we cop such attitude when
someone new joins, RP is in serious trouble (as if we aren't already).
~ jan
~ jan/WA
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