oh.Derek is now a freaking electrician.No Derek, first you have to
grow the **** up you moron and quit throwing tantrums

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:20:45 -0300, Derek Broughton
wrote:

x-CanadianCowboy© wrote:
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x- Gareee© wrote:
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x- Can I just replace those with higher wattage ones, like some of the other
x- fuses in my home? (The laundry rooms fuse is MUCH higher, and is where we
x- plug the outdoor tools into when we use them, bu tit would be MUCH easier
x- to just use the outdoor plugs.)
x-
x- What is the current rating on your outdoor outlet ? If it is not at
x- least 10 Amps then what was the builder thinking ?
x-
x- The breaker box looks pretty "plug n play".. turn the main power off,
x- replace the breaker with a higher volt/watt one, and then turn the master
x- breaker back on.
x-
x- You just need to turn off the particular area that you are working on
x- and NOT the whole house or else you will be spending half the day
x- reseting and configuring your clocks.
x-
x-Please, don't just recommend he change his breakers without any analysis.
x-You'll have him burning his house down! Not to mention that an amateur
x-really shouldn't work in a breaker box _without_ turning off the main
x-breaker (as my wife continually tells me!).
x-
x-First, what size are the breakers in your laundry room and outdoor circuits?
x-Second, what size are the cables coming out of those breakers?
x-Third, how long a cord are you using to the outdoor tools?
x-
x-In Canada, both the laundry room and outdoor circuit would be #14 cable and
x-15Amp breakers. In the US, you might get away with 20A (I don't know the
x-US code, so don't take this as gospel!). I suspect your laundry room is
x-wired for 20A - but that _in no way_ suggests that your outdoor circuit
x-could also use 20A! In fact, it may not even be safe in the laundry room -
x-sometimes people put in oversized breakers when they shouldn't.
x-
x-When using tools outdoors use the shortest possible extension cord, with the
x-largest possible gauge. Most outdoor extension cords are only #16. This
x-lowers the voltage considerably over a long run, which increases the
x-current draw on motors. You probably trip a 15A breaker. Spend the money
x-and get a 14 gauge extension cord. If you put a 20A breaker on a 15A
x-circuit, you can easily get the interior wires hot enough to start a fire
x-in your wall.

If ya dissagree with what I post then see below......
The original and one and only frugal ponder.

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CanadianCowboy© wrote:

Derek Broughton wrote:

Please, don't just recommend he change his breakers without any analysis.
You'll have him burning his house down! Not to mention that an amateur
really shouldn't work in a breaker box _without_ turning off the main
breaker (as my wife continually tells me!).


I believe he was asking to work on the outdoor outlet and NOT the box.
I just recommended that he switch off the power to the outlet box he is
working on. Changing those outlets is no harder than changing the light
fixtures in your house.

He talked about changing "fuses" in his breaker box:
The breaker box looks pretty "plug n play".. turn the main power off,
replace the breaker with a higher volt/watt one, and then turn the master
breaker back on

You're right, working on outlets is generally safe enough (with a modicum of
common sense) that even in this anally retentive province Big Brother will
permit it :-)
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derek