On 25-Nov-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
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On 22-Nov-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:
Geeze.... let me know what it is if you ever find out.


I have installed the CCTV and have so far seen 2 foxes, one or two cats
and
the dog from next door in my garden. There have also been some
unidentifiable small flying creatures.

Cats and fox don't go in the water so it wouldn't be them. Small flying
things = bats?

The foxes and cats are at night on
Infra Red, between about 2300 and 0500, and so far they have not damaged

my
pond, though the foxes are drinking out of my small fishless pond. The
dog
entered across the fence during the day and is so far my prime suspect
for
pond damage. I have left two empty pots by my fish pond to see if they
are
grabbed during the night. Of course, if there is any further pond damage
I
will be able to see the next morning what has done it.

Doug

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I would bet it's the dog. My neighbors dog would actually jump in the
ponds, knocking the rock necklace along the edge in the water and knock
over
and break the plants. He refused to put the dog up until I asked him
about
his Ins Co,.... he quickly got a chain for the dog. I was quite happy
when
they moved.

The night before last, at about 4am, I spotted on the CCTV a fox tugging at
the netting over my pond. It looked quite strong and it also put its feet in
the water. Foxes are now my prime suspects for pond damage. The next step is
finding out how to prevent them from doing it. I might try a beam which
sounds an alarm when cut. I already have a proximity light which comes on
but the foxes tend to ignore it.

Doug.

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On 25-Nov-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:
I would bet it's the dog. My neighbors dog would actually jump in the
ponds, knocking the rock necklace along the edge in the water and knock
over
and break the plants. He refused to put the dog up until I asked him
about
his Ins Co,.... he quickly got a chain for the dog. I was quite happy
when
they moved.

The night before last, at about 4am, I spotted on the CCTV a fox tugging
at
the netting over my pond. It looked quite strong and it also put its feet
in
the water. Foxes are now my prime suspects for pond damage. The next step
is
finding out how to prevent them from doing it. I might try a beam which
sounds an alarm when cut. I already have a proximity light which comes on
but the foxes tend to ignore it.

Doug.

A fox! Wow... could they be thirsty and just looking for water? You can try
one of those motion sprayers. Some people have success with them. Or try
using an electric fence, but that's a lot of work to set up. They keep the
pests out of my gardens. I string them about 9" above the ground and about
10" above that.... for about 6 horizontal rows.

The fish were the draw in my ponds and the hassle just got to were it wasn't
worth it anymore. Now with the fish gone, the ponds are very little work,
and the predators, snakes, raccoons etc left.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

On 5-Dec-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
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On 25-Nov-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:
I would bet it's the dog. My neighbors dog would actually jump in the
ponds, knocking the rock necklace along the edge in the water and knock
over
and break the plants. He refused to put the dog up until I asked him
about
his Ins Co,.... he quickly got a chain for the dog. I was quite happy
when
they moved.

The night before last, at about 4am, I spotted on the CCTV a fox tugging

at
the netting over my pond. It looked quite strong and it also put its
feet
in
the water. Foxes are now my prime suspects for pond damage. The next
step
is
finding out how to prevent them from doing it. I might try a beam which
sounds an alarm when cut. I already have a proximity light which comes
on
but the foxes tend to ignore it.

Doug.

A fox! Wow... could they be thirsty and just looking for water?

No it was tugging fiercely at the netting and there are gaps where it can
drink and it can drink from my other pond anyway. That also doesn't explain
why they have dragged pots out of the pond in the past.

You can
try
one of those motion sprayers. Some people have success with them. Or try
using an electric fence, but that's a lot of work to set up. They keep the

pests out of my gardens. I string them about 9" above the ground and
about
10" above that.... for about 6 horizontal rows.

The fish were the draw in my ponds and the hassle just got to were it
wasn't
worth it anymore. Now with the fish gone, the ponds are very little work,
and the predators, snakes, raccoons etc left.

I think the electric fence idea could be a winner! They are also less
conspicuous. Will look into that.

Meanwhile I have been blocking off most of the routes near the pond used by
the foxes but that is not a cure.

I have a motion detector on the CCTV which makes looking at recordings
quicker but the problem is it also responds to rain near the camera and
bats.

Doug.

On 6-Dec-2011, "Doug" wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
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On 25-Nov-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:
I would bet it's the dog. My neighbors dog would actually jump in
the
ponds, knocking the rock necklace along the edge in the water and
knock
over
and break the plants. He refused to put the dog up until I asked him
about
his Ins Co,.... he quickly got a chain for the dog. I was quite
happy
when
they moved.

The night before last, at about 4am, I spotted on the CCTV a fox
tugging

at
the netting over my pond. It looked quite strong and it also put its
feet
in
the water. Foxes are now my prime suspects for pond damage. The next
step
is
finding out how to prevent them from doing it. I might try a beam
which
sounds an alarm when cut. I already have a proximity light which comes
on
but the foxes tend to ignore it.

Doug.

A fox! Wow... could they be thirsty and just looking for water?

No it was tugging fiercely at the netting and there are gaps where it can
drink and it can drink from my other pond anyway. That also doesn't
explain
why they have dragged pots out of the pond in the past.

You can
try
one of those motion sprayers. Some people have success with them. Or try
using an electric fence, but that's a lot of work to set up. They keep
the

pests out of my gardens. I string them about 9" above the ground and
about
10" above that.... for about 6 horizontal rows.

The fish were the draw in my ponds and the hassle just got to were it
wasn't
worth it anymore. Now with the fish gone, the ponds are very little
work,
and the predators, snakes, raccoons etc left.

I think the electric fence idea could be a winner! They are also less
conspicuous. Will look into that.

Meanwhile I have been blocking off most of the routes near the pond used
by
the foxes but that is not a cure.

I have a motion detector on the CCTV which makes looking at recordings
quicker but the problem is it also responds to rain near the camera and
bats.

Doug.

Here is the video of the fox attacking my pond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IVxfpT_hNk

Doug

"Doug" wrote in message
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Here is the video of the fox attacking my pond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IVxfpT_hNk

Doug
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It looks like you're going to have to go with an electric fence. He's
probably not the only fox involved. You can also use a 3 or 4' tall chicken
wire fence topped with a string of electric. That will also keep rabbits and
squirrels out of your pond, lawn and garden.

I assume he was after the fish or whatever lives in your pond right now.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

On 8-Dec-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
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Here is the video of the fox attacking my pond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IVxfpT_hNk

Doug
--------------------------------------------
It looks like you're going to have to go with an electric fence. He's
probably not the only fox involved. You can also use a 3 or 4' tall
chicken
wire fence topped with a string of electric. That will also keep rabbits
and
squirrels out of your pond, lawn and garden.

I assume he was after the fish or whatever lives in your pond right now.

There are four fish and a frog or two who live in the pond.

I don't want anything that looks too conspicuous. In the meantime I have put
up a few simple barriers made of sticks which blocks the route around the
back of the pond and that seems to be working for now but if the attacks
continue I will have to get an electric fence. It all seems a bit much
though, all this technology just because of four little fishes! I have yet
to try my broken beam alarm but the neighbours might object to the noise in
the middle of the night.

Doug.

"Doug" wrote in message
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On 8-Dec-2011, "ReelMckoi" wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
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Here is the video of the fox attacking my pond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IVxfpT_hNk

Doug
--------------------------------------------
It looks like you're going to have to go with an electric fence. He's
probably not the only fox involved. You can also use a 3 or 4' tall
chicken
wire fence topped with a string of electric. That will also keep rabbits
and
squirrels out of your pond, lawn and garden.

I assume he was after the fish or whatever lives in your pond right now.

There are four fish and a frog or two who live in the pond.

I don't want anything that looks too conspicuous. In the meantime I have
put
up a few simple barriers made of sticks which blocks the route around the
back of the pond and that seems to be working for now but if the attacks
continue I will have to get an electric fence. It all seems a bit much
though, all this technology just because of four little fishes! I have yet
to try my broken beam alarm but the neighbours might object to the noise
in
the middle of the night.

Doug.
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This is why I got rid of the fish, removed the net covers, sold off the
pumps and filters and let nature have the ponds. I was tired of dealing with
it all. I enjoy the ponds more now than ever before. They're full of frogs
and little turtles and dragonflies and newts. And no work at all for me.
If predators want to jump in the ponds and go after the frogs and other
creatures, it's OK with me. Nature balances it all out.
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö

"Doug" wrote


Here is the video of the fox attacking my pond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IVxfpT_hNk


I reckon he is after frogs, perhaps he's a French fox. :-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"Doug" wrote


Here is the video of the fox attacking my pond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IVxfpT_hNk


I reckon he is after frogs, perhaps he's a French fox. :-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK
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I wonder if the fox is just after frog legs or the whole frog. ;-)
--
RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö